I see. If you disagree with me, that's not a debate. If I disagree with you, then that's a debate. Now I get it.The point of the cooties reference is that you've done what you habitually do, which is to throw something out something that's not generally agreed upon or necessarily accepted, as if it's a well-known fact, because it's something you heard, or your gut told you so, or God did.> ANYTHING can become an addiction. And yes the definition of addiction is very hazy.OK, then the word "addiction" can mean whater you want it to. So there's no point even using the word unless you first define the term. But then the next guy will define it differently. It is not a useful term.> (and even than that's iffy) even if what he is trying to defend has no scientific proof to back up HIS opinion.You idiot. You goddam idiot. In discussions with you on what most would consider scientific topics or prinicipals, I've posted all kinds of explanations and references, and your response is to mock Google. Go reread your utter nonsense on herpes versus canker sores for a fine example. Take most any kid who's passed high school chemistry, biology, and physics, and he or she will wipe the floor with your ass in any scientific discussion. I can understand ignorance of scientific knowledge and principals, but you seem to be actively hostile to them. You're opinions in those areas, so far, is virtually worthless. I'd stick with handing out hugs if I were you.
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Craig, we agree that the common definition of "addiction" is hazy (as opposed to a biological addiction, which is a little less hazy...but still hazy). There's no point obsessing over it.The question is, why do you have this compusion to eat sugar? Is the idea of sugary things a comforting thing from your childhood? Are you hypoglycemic? (By the way, you can't get a definitive idea of your body's abililty to regulate blood glucose from one test taken at an arbitrary time, but a fasting test is pretty useful). Are you depressed? If it's an addiction/habit/whatever, and you can't overcome it, then you would probably benefit from counseling.From what I've read (partly based on AA's own data), 12-step programs don't appear to be very useful a year after they're started (versus not doing anything at all). But who knows, it may work for you. Compared to doing nothing, it's worth a try. But I think a discussion with a psychologist (or equivalent) might be more useful.If you're eating so much sugar that it's causing you to gain weight, you know that's a bad thing. There's evidence that, once you reach a certain age, ramping up your sugar intake is a risk factor for type 2 diabetes.
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That was n-o-t logical. Alcohol is not sugar! They are different substances and are metabolized in different ways. Grain alcohol itself is physically addicting in a specific way. It's also toxic.
glucose: C6H12O6
hooch: CH3CH2OHThey have some atoms in common, but they're not the same thing. That hypothesis of yours needs some rethinking.
In any case, I'm not sure what any of that has to do with you getting your sugar consumption under control.
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And there you go with the name calling again showing you true immature nature.
First off You are talking about one topic about canker sores. Otherwise there were discussions about postive and negative energies, Reiki massages, and personal opinins on circumcision etc etc inwhich you called me ignorant and childish for believing in because I could not give scientific info to back it up BUT at the same time you could not back up your statement either with scientific information. Even a few moderators came in telling you to stop judging people for the own beliefs. So don't sit there all high and mighty on a Pedestal that you have no right to sit on.
As for me needing to stick to giving hugs.. sorry bub I have gotten plenty of PM's from people telling me how they appreciate the info I have given on the boards. So just because you don't like it doesn't mean others follow suit. Get a grip on your macho-better-than-thou attitude, because you don't wear it well.
> Take most any kid who's passed high school chemistry, biology, and physics, and he or she will wipe the floor with your ass in any scientific discussion
Not that I care what you THINK.. but if you must be ignorant let me state I did VERY well in science. But the issues you and I mostly disagree on are topics that can go both ways (other than the canker sore thing but whatever).Again just because YOU don't believe in something does NOT make it true.
Back on topic, Addictions can be more than just drugs. There are known cases of people addicted to many different things. From Sex, to alcohol and even sugar. Even if it's an emotional addiction it is an addiction.
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I have gotten plenty of PM's telling me how the appreciate the info I give on the boards.
If you're giving a hug, that's fine. If anyone here is offering technical information, people need to take it with a grain of salt. If you are offering techncal information, people need to take it with a big grain of salt.
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There are known cases of people addicted to many different things. From Sex, to alcohol and even sugar. Even if it's an emotional addiction it is an addiction.
"Known cases", huh? Just like your "known cases" of hauntings?
Fine, you've defined "addiction" to mean habit or dependency, chemical or otherwise. Now do you have anything useful to offer the OP, who would like to kick his "addiction"?
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If you're giving a hug, that's fine. If anyone here is offering technical information, people need to take it with a grain of salt. If you are offering techncal information, people need to take it with a big grain of salt.You know Steve you might have caught me on the wrong freakin day but who the hell are YOU to say something like that? You are the most ignorant self absorbed jerk I've ever met. I am so tired of you cutting people down all the damned time. Steve you don't know me but I'm a damned good guy. I bend over backwards to help people. All you did is cut people down and try and make them feel like shit all the time. You wanna call me ignorant and childish.. look in the damned mirror before you judge ANYONE!And to the OP, a good step to take to help kick the addiction is to find a suppliment for the candy. I have found eatting fruit helps with my cravings. Sweeter fruits usually work best like oranges or Grannysmith Apples or even strawberries. You are getting a natural sugar that's actually better for you as well as getting vitamins and such needed for daily function. Hope that helps.
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You are the most ignorantNot in technical issues. I wish there were some way I could get you to be less lazy when you're speculating such issues, and do a bit of research. If a fact has a number associated with it, I can always rely on you to go with your gut rather than looking it up.> self absorbed jerk I've ever met.Your complaint is noted. Keep in mind that I consider the words "correct", "wrong", "evidence", and "logical" to be meaningful.> ...fruit...Fruit is a good idea (although fruit juice is not). A piece of fruit has a reasonable amount of sugar, plus the fiber in the fruit slows down absoption. As a bonus, fruit contains valuable nutrients (candy contains none). It also helps keep your bowels running nicely.I'm down with fruit. I wish it were less expensive.
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I am going to ignore the rest of your post because it's worthless. But to:>Fruit is a good idea (although fruit juice is not). A piece of fruit has a reasonable amount of sugar, plus the fiber in the fruit slows down absoption. As a bonus, fruit contains valuable nutrients (candy contains none). It also helps keep your bowels running nicely.I'm down with fruit. I wish it were less expensiveI'm glad we atleast agree on that.And to SexPot.. Agreed.
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Hey! I just noticed something. Whenever you are criticized, you have a tendency to deflect attention away from you saying people on here lazy and don't provide adequate information to the boardYou can consider anything put up on a message board an opinion. If I say something that's not generally agreed upon, and if I don't note a reference, I'll put one up, if challeneged. In this case, I could put up a definition for "addiction" from a medical textbook, and someone else could put one up from a 12-step site. Do you want me to put up a unit in chemistry to elucidate the difference between grain alcohol and sugar?In the death penalty case, I put up references specific to Illinois. There are lots of sources, though, for data on the number of people who are on death row, information on people who were put there based on dubious evidence, and the number of people who were released from death row.You obviously have nothing to add to this discussion, but as a liberal blogger, I'd think you'd have something constructive to add to the death penalty discussion. Apparently you prefer to bicker with me.Do you have anything to add regarding the OP's issue? Intro stepped up and finally said something useful. I suggested counseling, and agreed that some type of 12-step program might be worth trying, in the OP's case. Do you have anything to add, or are you only here to argue?
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Hi no1sexpotinusa!! It's nice to 'see' you again. I hope you're OK. GREAT BIG HUGCraig!!