Well I've had sex with both........quite honestly I've not noticed a difference!
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Uncut sex
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It usually will feel different, often less pleasurable for both partners, when the male is using a condom, regardless if the male is cut or not. Whether the guy is cut or not, everyone uses it differently, and every penis is different, so I don't think that it's something that can truly be backed up.I'm in no way attacking you, but you also say that you have only had one partner, so you can't really back up your claims. It's true that during sex a cut and intact penis "function" differently, but even then every penis is still different, some males have tighter/shorter foreskins that don't move forward much when erect, et cetera. Thus, it is no guarantee sex will be any better either way.
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In reply to:It usually will feel different, often less pleasurable for both partners, when the male is using a condom, regardless if the male is cut or not.Whether the guy is cut or not, everyone uses it differently, and every penis is different, so I don't think that it's something that can truly be backed up. Thank you for your post! To a certain extent I agree with you and I see your point!As I said before I can only imagine what sensations there might be with a circumcised man. In my personal experience the pleasurable sensations are greatly decresed if my intact husband wears a condom, that's when his foreskin is only slighlty restricted. So if he didn't have a foreskin at all, if he were circumcised, then obviously there would be no extra friction, no extra pleasure at all! Once you experience something like that it's very difficult to imagine that there are people who have not experienced this extra pleasure, this friction that foreskin provides. I personally wouldn't want to have sex with a circumcised man.While I may not have had other partners I have read other women (and men) discussing this subject. Majority of women claim there definitely is a dfference in sensations. A lot of women also say that sex with an intact partner is more comfortable and that they have not felt any need to use artificial lubrication when with a circumcised partner they have had to use it either frequently or regularly. There has even been a study about the effect of male circumcision on female arousal and orgasm: http://www.nzma.org.nz/journal/116-1181/595/"Women reported they were significantly more likely to have experienced vaginal dryness during intercourse with circumcised than with genitally intact men.""..the role of the male foreskin in preventing loss of vaginal lubrication during intercourse may become more discernible with increasing age among women.""Most likely, reported vaginal dryness and the related clinical designation ‘female arousal disorder’ is but a normal female response to coitus with a man with an iatrogenically deficient penis."I can try to imagine that there might not be much difference between an intact man who's wearing a condom (restricted foreskin) and a circumcised man who either is or isn't wearing one.From the male perspective, circumcision removes about 50% of highly innervated penile skin. It simply woudln't be logical to expect that a penis with all those missing nerve endings will still be just as sensitive as an undamaged penis. Plus, exposing the glans like that and having it rub against the undergarments all the time desensitizes it even more. It just simply isn't the same thing.. Men who have restored their foreskins claim that there is a drastic difference in sensations for them.Intact men don't need artificial lubrication if you want to stimulate them manually, it is my understanding that circumcised men do. That's an enormous difference, wouldn't you say?There also have been studies that confirm that circumcision is a cause for erectile dysfunction: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...3526&query_hl=3Effect of neonatal circumcision on penile neurologic sensation."In the dysfunctional group, circumcised men (49 +/- 16 years) were significantly younger (P ."http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...9200&query_hl=3Erectile function evaluation after adult circumcisionOBJECTIVE: To evaluate the erectile function of adults after circumcision. METHODS: Ninty-five patients were investigated on erectile function by questionnaire before and after circumcision, respectively. RESULTS: Eighteen patients suffered from mild erectile dysfunction before circumcision, and 28 suffered from mild or moderate erectile dysfunction after circumcision(P = 0.001). Adult circumcision appeared to have resulted in weakened erectile confidence in 33 cases(P = 0.04), difficult insertion in 41 cases(P = 0.03), prolonged intercourse in 31 cases(P = 0.04) and improved satisfaction in 34 cases(P = 0.04). CONCLUSIONS: Adult circumcision has certain effect on erectile function, to which more importance should be attached."Poka!
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So if he didn't have a foreskin at all, if he were circumcised, then obviously there would be no extra friction, no extra pleasure at all!You don't know that, so I don't see how you can make the claim that the sensations are significantly different. Sure there has to be some difference but not that extreme as you claim.
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Other men and women speak about their experiences:"And I do think it makes a lot of difference with individual circs-- some seem much worse than others. I was with a tightly circed guy for a few years who had a lot more penis than he did skin. I could ignore the discomfort sex caused me during the act itself, because I was 19 and horny, but I was often in pain for days afterward. And this in spite of the fact that I produced plenty of lubrication and we used the artificial deal, too."---"I was with my (tightly circ'd) ex for 8 years and I ALWAYS hurt after sex! I had a few years of being wild after I broke up with the 8 year ex and only encountered one intact male and it was absolute heaven. There is a huge difference to me."---"With sex, it's a little bit skill, a little bit passion and a little bit physical. You have all three, and you got the perfect mate. On the physical front, I'd say that size is kind of important, but it really does make a difference how loose the skin is. Being with my wife 11 yrs now, and being very open about sex, we've discussed things in quite a bit of detail. She was never with an intact man before. I am on the large side, and so we both believed (like many people) that my job wasn't done unless she was sore and walking bow-legged the next day. God, that's sad, isn't it? Because of the media (porn) and what we are brainwashed the believe, I always thought I was supposed to get in there and just pound away at it for an hour. I thought my size was supposed to make me automatically #1! We used lube and we used toys. Neither of us were ever quite satisfied with our sex life, however. There was always something amiss. I honestly thought I wasn't big enough for her and I think that to her, secretly, there was a belief that we weren't quite compatible, and that my lack of passion was because she wasn't pretty enough for me. Sounds familiar, huh? Both of us thinking it was "our fault"? I started restoring, not really knowing it would make a big difference for her... just mainly for myself for various reasons. The more skin I grew, tho, the better sex got. Being tight cut, she noticed before I did. She wasn't going dry. She wasn't sore. I was actually enjoying intercourse. It wasn't a chore or a competition. It was a pleasure. I began to feel real passion because it felt good and because I was having "real" O*****s. As I grew more skin, it began to FEEL bigger for me, and I lost my size complex (which, I think, is another side effect of circ... only makes sense, more skin and nerves makes it feel bigger) and with more confidence, I became more focused on her and pleasing her and not always constantly needing her to bolster me psychologically. I asked her about her past lovers, and tho none of them were intact, she did say that none of them were tight cut like I was, and that she always blamed her problems with dryness and soreness on my size. Long story short, she has told me several times now that if anything ever happened to me, she would have to find another intact or restored man-- she wasn't going to be with another cut guy again. Knowing where we live and the odds on that one, I just laugh and say, "Good luck!" Anyone saying they can't feel a difference has just been lucky enough to avoid all the tight cut guys out there."---An intact man describing his sensations:"When I get hard, the feeling of the head expanding and moving insidethe foreskin, stimulating the inner foreskin nerves, is fantastic. Thefeeling of the head trying to open the foreskin opening is a veryexaggerated and erotic tickle. After erection, pulling the skin back half-way results in a searing tickle, and pulling it back all the way and layingit back along the shaft for the first time is almost blinding. The feeling ofmy skin being pushed back and forth during intercourse, stretching backover the corona, then being pulled forward, is exquisite. The tip of myskin moving over the head feels like a rubber band rolling over the head.I can ejaculate just by stretching the foreskin back tightly for about tenminutes and letting the frenulum build up its sensation and feeling thatwonderful burning tingle that leads to firing off.After my workout at the gym I see cut guys walking up to a hot showerwith the water on the sharp setting. If I were to pull my skin back and dothat, I would double over from the sensation. If I skin it back under a hotshower it feels like I'm being scalded. We uncut guys know what wehave. The unamputated nerve endings of the foreskin and frenulum, andthe undiminished nerves of the glans, make the penis during sex thecentre of the universe. Cut guys know that when they see a video of anuncut guy: the head expands and turns red and purple and the foreskinlocks behind the head and turns crimson from blood flow, putting theultimate stretch on the frenulum. That guy is experiencing feelings thatthe cut guy can never imagine.My friend was clipped last summer because his girlfriend refused to dohim orally. Now he says he has lost 75 percent of the feeling. He sayshis best part is still the part of the inside-out foreskin, about an inchbelow the head. He's really sorry he didn't discuss keeping the frenulumand highly erotogenic ridged band. "
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In reply to:In reply to:So if he didn't have a foreskin at all, if he were circumcised, then obviously there would be no extra friction, no extra pleasure at all!You don't know that, so I don't see how you can make the claim that the sensations are significantly different. Sure there has to be some difference but not that extreme as you claim. Are you trying to say that a circumcised penis can do this http://www.cirp.org/pages/anat/#gliding?Who Is The Better Lover: Circumcised Or Intact Men?http://www.healthcentral.com/drdean/408/8812.htmlThis article comes to us from the BJU International,a British urological publication.With circumcised partners, women were less likely to have a vaginal orgasm or multiple orgasms and were more likely to experience sexual discomfort, the report says.Many societies have seen genital mutilation as a way to try to control sexuality. Female genital mutilation in Africa is still used to decrease women's desire today, while in the 1800s society thought circumcision in men would curb men's desire to masturbate.Back in the 12th century, Moses Maimonides, a rabbi, said circumcision could control men's desires for sex. He also said women were less likely to leave an intact man once they had had sex with him, which is consistent with what these 20th century researchers found.The study's authors conclude that "the anatomically complete penis offers a more rewarding experience during coitus," and that, "...the negative effect of circumcision on the sexual enjoyment of the female needs to be part of any discussions providing 'informed consent' before circumcision.
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And there are people who have said they had both and the difference wasn't significant... What are you trying to prove?
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She has nothing to prove, because she's never been with both, so her statments shoot right out the window.
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What about "the Hook" ?http://www.sexasnatureintendedit.com/ppc/hook.htmlAlso, Dr. Christine Northrup, #1 bestselling author on Women's health issues:http://mensightmagazine.com/Articles/Northrup/lovecirc.htm
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In reply to: What are you trying to prove? That majority of women claim there is a drastic difference, did you bother to look at the links? "Women reported they were significantly more likely to have experienced vaginal dryness during intercourse with circumcised than with genitally intact men.""Women reported they were about twice as likely to experience orgasm if the male partner had a foreskin."
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OK fine. I am, by the way, an intact male. I just think you are bit too "militant" about the whole thing.
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see, I still don't get why a piece of skin would make a big deal. It doesn't add up why foreskin would make a woman orgasm. There are a lot more to just making a woman orgasm than just being uncircumcised.
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The secret is in the thrusting rhythm.The reasons why the foreskin is "the key to a woman's sexual ecstasy" are clearly explained in the book Sex As Nature Intended It. Actually, in the study mentioned just above, women were almost 5 times likelier to achieve vaginal orgasm when the man had a penis with a foreskin (natural penis). Here's a reason why: One of the primary purposes of the foreskin is to regulate the penis's thrusting movements during intercourse. Because the natural penis derives sexual pleasure on the outward stroke as well as on the inward thrust (circ does only on the inward thrust), it thrusts the vagina at the "the ideal rhythmic frequency (as designed by nature)" that facilitates a woman's accent to orgasm.The circumcised penis has no foreskin. Gone is this natural rhythm regulating device. So the circumcised penis thrusts any which way that pleases it. This may feel good for the man, but, for the woman on the receiving end of the penis, circumcised thrusting does not create the right rhythmic frequency against her clitoral region to excite her toward orgasm. Women in the above mentioned survey agreed almost unanimously that the circumcised penis' thrusts are "Out of Sync" with the woman's needs to achieve orgasm and heightened pleasure during intercourse. The evidence is irrefutable: Male circumcision harms adult sexuality, and woman are its primary victims. Removal of the foreskin causes the circumcised penis to thrust with an unnatural, elongated stroke and an inconsistent, irregular rhythm, which put the circumcised man’s thrusting movements out of sync with the pleasure needs of his female partner.Even though some women are highly orgasmic and can orgasm with ease with no matter what kind of penis, they are the exception not the rule. And as women get into their 40's and 50's, it becomes more and more difficult for even those hottest young sexpots to achieve vaginal orgasm, especially from the abnormal thrusting movements of the circumcised penis.
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This all may be true. However, I am a circumsized male. I have never had any problem bringing my woman to orgasm, in fact it usually occurs many times, even though I have a very hair trigger. We have never used any form of lubrication (other than for fun from time to time). AND, as I and my wife are in our late 40's and early 50's I can tell you that nothing has changed regarding our orgasmic life since we started almost 30 years ago. Other than it is less stressful since neither one of us can have kids any longer. So... there may be a difference but I don't think it is always significant for the woman. Personally, if I had a choice I would not be circumsized, but no one asked me. A circumsized male and his partner can have excellent, enjoyable, mind blowing sex. And age is not a factor unless you let it be.
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I would question the science behind the claims in that link. It looks a little commercial to me.
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I agree..Oldfolks
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It would be because he wrote it.. it is his website. He is basically advertising it.
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In reply to: ...I have never had any problem...My wife and I have never used...Our sex life is great! If a person were trying to determine whether global warming was really happening, they could go about it by two methods.One way would be to interview various people in different parts of the world for their opinion. Some people would say, "I don't think so. Seems to me that winters are just as cold as they ever were." Others might say, "I think its getting warmer. Last week I was walking around for 3 days with only a sweater on and it was the middle of January." Most people would express their opinion and make their assessment based upon what they experience in their everyday lives.The second way to determine global warming is to take scientific measurements of the earth's atmospheric changes, ocean temperatures, evaluate core samples from artic glaciers, compare photograghs of glaciers today vs.100 years ago, evaluate satellite photos, hurricane data, etc.Scientists in ever increasing numbers, who do this kind of research, are more and more convinced that goblal warming is happening now, and at an accelerating rate. And no matter how many people someone interviews in Boise, Idaho, in Moscow, Russia, in Bangor, Maine, etc. who say "It is." or "It is not." doesn't matter if the scientific evaluations indicate that global warming is really going on.The circumcision-foreskin debate on the sexual consequences of circumcision has always been conducted by the first method: "Here's my opinion, based on my experience?" or "From my wife's experience?" or "My girlfriend's experience" or "My friends' experience." or "What women say on the internet." etc.Sex As Nature Intended It is the first book that attempts to answer the question: "What's really going on here during sexual intercoure?" It explains clearly and logically, in easy to understand language, how the natural and circumcised penis perform sex differently, and what it means to both the man and his female partner. Any inquisitive person who reads the book from cover to cover would have to come away saying: This book presents the most convincing case ever presented for not removing the foreskin.They'd also have to say: "What an incredibly fascinating book. I can't believe how much valuable information I learned on how to enhance my own sexual pleasure and that of my partner as well."
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I congratulate you on presenting research that you base your claims on instead of just trying to base claims from personal opinion.
The problem I have with sites like those is that they are often more geared towards an agenda (preventing circumsizion at birth) than anything else. If you really look into those sites, you will see a lot of strong language and wording that suggest that's their primary purpose.
I have seen several posts on boards as such where guys post about how being circumsized has completely ruined their life, how they have no sensation, et cetera. In some cases, though not that common, a circumsizion can go very wrong and partially ruin their sex life. But, after thoroughly reading the posts, it seems more to me that they have other problems behind their lack of function (beyond sex), and find it easy to blame on their circumsizion, especially when they get caught up in certain boards that make some largely exaggerated claims, or lies.
I really think that a lot of it is mental. If you convince yourself that it's a handicap, it might very well become one. It's easier to say "My partner doesn't orgasm because I'm circumsized" than "My partner doesn't orgasm. Maybe, it's because I'm a lousy performer".
There are cut men who have great sex, there are cut men who don't have great sex. There are uncut men who have great sex, there are uncut men who don't have great sex. There are women who are with cut men who have great sex, and some that don't. There are women with uncut men who have great sex, some don't.
Everybody's body responds differently, and everybody is different in sexual performance.
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