How bad for you is it? I'm a little worried about someone I know.. she doesn't do it often, maybe once a month, if that. I'm just wondering how harmful it is.Thanks
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How bad is extacy?
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Your health teacher will tell you one E tablet will make you drop dead on the spot but that isn't the case. Doing it everyday is bad, it becomes addictive and drains your seratonin meaning you can never be happy again and then you cut your wrists like an emo kid. But doing it once a month isn't that bad, it's more than I do it but I guess it's ok, it just shouldn't be mixed with excessive amounts of alcohol or other hard drugs like heroin, cocaine, or methamphetamines.The real risks are adulterants and fake extasy that douchebags sell.
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I did it once.. It didn't do ANYTHING to me.. probably because I smoked so much weed that that overdid it.. I was like falling asleep..I wouldnt recommend it I know people who are addicted
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i did it once and really didnt enjoy the experiencewhat youve got to remember is that all people will react differently to different drugs. sure there has been some cases where people have dropped dead taking exstacy, although i would say thats quite rare (although dont quote me on that) ive seen someone take 7 pills in one night and that was defantley not a pretty site. i dont think i would take exstacy again. like whitelines said its defantley not a drug you want to take on a daily basis. i used to be curious about these things, not as much anymore though, not really worth the risk in my opinion
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Translation: Blah blah blah, drugs are bad because the government says they're illegal, blah blah blah.Extasy was actually invented for couples with marital troubles doctors and scientists are actually investigating it's possible medical usage as we speak.
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In reply to white lines:Extacy wasn't invented for couples with marital problems actually. It was originally invented as a diatry suppliment. just thought i'd clear that one up
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Helmsman you're always full of good, helpful information and you're very to the point.
Spot on.
You're sharing with us some mistakes/experiences so that others can benefit and hopefully take your word and learn from it.
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I think its really bad, some people can drop dead if they take one pill even if they tried it before.People like my mom can start losing their memory and get confused easily. Seriously I use to ask her to help me with homework and she uses her full knowledge to help me and now shes like "uhhh I dont know." She would tell me the same stories that she told me and I would tell her that she told me already and she be like "oh I did?" Shes only 36, i tell her to stop but she would always say that she doesnt do it that much, but it does build up and can get worse.Tell your friend to stop this drug can do some unexpecting things and if you dont tell her to quit even though she doesnt do it a lot she can one day just fall sick to the floor and pass away. Let her know what it can do to someone , it can become an addiction.
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In reply to:I think its really bad, some people can drop dead if they take one pill even if they tried it before.Then they took bad E, it's not ecstasy's fault that someone cut the MDMA with some bad shit or used another substance altogether, and pressed it into a tablet with a Nike "swoosh" that some raver kid with a hundred glowsticks on ate.Bottom line, don't be a dumbass with drugs. Buy off someone you can trust who gets their shit from someone they trust. You buy off a guy in an alley who never plans on seeing you again, odds are he's going to: a) take your money and not give you drugs, b) sell you a lookalike drug, c) sell you a short bag of real drugs, d) pull out a badge and gun and arrest you (charges will probably be dropped though on some technicality).How many tiems have you done e? Have you ever seen an e pill? Have you ever even known anyone who did it? Probably not, so please for your own good just don't try and preach about things you are ignorant about.
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^ I've never done E pill but seen it around me since my family uses it. And I hear from articles and in the past on the news about people who have died from it even if they are consistintley taking it or is their first time trying it. What im saying that it is a possibility that someone might die from taking the pill. Sure its not the extacy fault, its the persons fault thats what. Doesnt matter if you buy from someone you meet at an alley or have some connection with a person you know that sells them its still "E". How can someone be IGNORANT about a drug that could kill? Its a fact that "E" can kill, no difference if its GOOD E or BAD E. What is good "E" anyways? if its still going to deteriorate your brain? Nobody is preaching or being ignorant, this is a serious drug here. Yeah it may feel awsome to some people but it can totally fry their brains. why dont you do some more research and see who is the ignorant one here. Telling someone "Buy off someone you can trust who gets their shit from someone they trust." Buying it from someone you trust wont make a difference.
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Summer, no offense, but you really, really haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Don't post back to me saying "you're an idiot, blah blah blah" because I'm just going to try to inform you and others with a few facts.So then, all the shit with people dying on E is radiculous. You've probably got more chance of dying from a few pints of stella.Tell me, what exactly are the statistics of people dying on E compared to people dying on alcohol? thousands of people die on alcohol yearly in the UK alone. and the UK is tiny. Now what's those statistics on E? 1 or 2 every year? compared to THOUSANDS on alcohol? Do me a quick favour, google up the statistics and you tell me what's really a worse drug. You can use the arguement "but alcohol is alot more mainstream". Yes it is, but E is growing so much, and as its growing, the death rate tends to lower, which i agree, is very odd. Just for the record, E has now been reported to be used by people as young as the age of 9 as a replacement for alcohol as a social lubricant. E is used alot more than you think, people just keep it quiet.Do you want me to tell you why people die on E? It's a reletively safe drug. Of course it causes brain damage, and i'm not denying that. But here are the reasons to why someone could die on E:1) Alergic reaction to something in the pill. Buying off someone you know DOES make a difference, always make sure you talk to someone you know who has already tried that certain batch, or observe others taking it before putting it into your system. Alternatively, buy an extacy testing kit. You want to watch out for a drug called 'DXM', which is found in a few of the American cough medicine products. It's a drug which is pretty lethal in its own, but you find people taking lots of cough medicine to get high on it. Its not a pleasant drug, and it doesn't give you a pleasant trip. Your trip will not only be a complete nightmare, but its very, very lethal when mixed with MDMA. Dealers used to put this into pills instead of MDMA as:a) its legalb) its cheapc) no risk of being caught due to it being legalBut nowadays you'd have about the same chance of winning the lottery as you would finding a supposed 'E' tablet with DXM in instead. If pills had DXM in, people would find out quickly, inform each other, and no one would buy the dealers pills anymore. Hense why its quite rare for you to find a case like this.2) People are always saying "drink water! drink water!". big mistake. This is how I ended up having a bad one once. You want to drink about quarter to half pint an hour if you're staying still, and half pint to a pint if you're dancing, obviously this depends on your metabolism. First time takers on MDMA are under the impression that they're constantly gonna dehydrate if they don't drink lots of water (just like i did on my first) so as a result, they knock back loads of water, which is worse than dehydrating, as they're going to end up drinking so much that their lungs drown in it causing death. When you've had too much water, the E user starts to feel ill, and again, mistakes the ill feeling for dehydration, so they drink even more... If you drink stupid, stupid amounts, this will soon end up as something called 'Water Intoxication". Which is basically where you have so much water in your system that your brain inflates and fucks you over. Athletes get this alot aswell, its not just open to E users.So if you want a safe pill trip, its simple:after you get the pills, take half/quarter to see the effect it has on you. Don't think "oh these are shit, lets take some more" because its going to smack you in the face when you properly come up. Take half, wait about an hour to an hour and a half to see the effects, if you're not feeling any adverse side effects, then drop half or one. Never drink too much water, take tiny sips occasionally and you'll be alright. Never drink alcohol or take other drugs while on E.As i said before, the only bad one i've had before is when i've drank too much, and this is the cause of many E deaths, so this would probably be my main advice to anyone who hasn't done it.Now onto the damages it does.Ok, i'm not going to lie to you, extacy is such a good feeling that i can't describe it. Walking on wet grass can make you the happiest person alive, you fall in love with the world and everyone inside it, and so on... But why does it make you feel so good? Here's why:There's a chemical called Serotonin which is naturally produced by your body, and this chemical is responcible for controlling stuff like your mood (if you're happy or sad, angry or calm), your appetite (hungry or not), your sleep (tired or awake) and a few other aspects aswell...Now basically in every day life, you have serotonin outlets, which basically let out tiny amounts of serotonin inbetween your brain and your skull, but because the serotonin has to go somewhere, it is absorbed up by your brain. So we basically have this:1. Serotonin being pushed out by outlets2. Serotonin being abosrbed by brainThis is constantly going on in your head. And the amount of serotonin inbetween your brain and your skull at any one time determines, for example, how happy you'll be, how hungry you'll be, etc etc. Hense why sometimes you're extremely happy for no reason, and other times you want to cut your wrists. This is all down to the amount of serotonin you have in your head. As an example, depressed people don't have enough serotonin being produced, hense why they're depressed, and what do anti depressants do? bingo! They allow the brain to create more serotonin, thus stopping the depression temporarily.Now what happens when you take a pill to the serotonin? Well two things... Not only does the little outlets start GUSHING out serotonin, but the brain pushes all the serotonin that it absorbs back into the head. Hense why you're HAPPY HAPPY HAPPY. That's pretty much all extacy does, the reason that you're in love with the walls, the carpet, that person sitting next to you, is all because the amount of serotonin that's released in your head. This is also the reason why you can't sleep on pills, why you're hyper, and why you have no appetite.Ok, so you've just taken your first pill, your serotonin levels are depleting as you're using up your precious serotonin supplies on being this happy. and now the nights over. You go to sleep. Wake up. Now what... Yep, you're on the come down... WHY are you on the comedown? Well... You used the majority of your serotonin last night and now your brain has to replenish it so the outlet can push more into your head. The amount of serotonin going into your head is probably about half of what it was the night before, but i wouldn't worry because this will pick up slowly over time.What i would recommend for E users on the comedown is a health suppliment called '5-HTP'. Which is basically Serotonins little brother. You need 5-HTP to produce serotonin, and these pills will help boost your serotonin levels to what they were originally.People who take far too many pills are in trouble. The receptors in your brain which recognise the serotonin will get damaged if you abuse extacy too much. They will retract into the membrane and you'll be depressed for ever. SO USE IT, DON'T ABUSE IT.Obviously there is the damage of nearly every other drug. It damages brain cells, give you memory problems, changes our personalities, etc etc etc, we all know drugs are bad for us, so DON'T over do them.If you want my honest advise, don't do drugs at all. If you don't do drugs, you'll never find out how good some of them are, which is a good thing because you won't want to repeat an awesome experience. Think about it carefully, you're sacrifing your own health for a couple of hours feeling amazing. IS it really worth it? If you think it is like i do on the very rare occasion, then fair play to ya, crack on. But remember you're going to wake up in the morning and ask yourself what was the point, was it really worth it just for that kick ass memory?Moderate pills to once every 3-6 months and you won't really notice a significant difference in your health. just DON'T be stupid and do them every weekend.Hopefully that clears up any doubts in your minds. I'd hope so as it painstakingly took me HALF HOUR to write.p.s. I'm doing them this weekend as i'm going to a festival. I'm not going to do many, 2-5 maybe? and as a result I'm going to be having the time of my life with all the people I'm close to, i'm not going touch them for atleast the next 6 months. its all about moderation. And it upsets me when i see people doing 10-20 in one night.xx
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In reply to: I'm doing them this weekend as i'm going to a festival. I'm not going to do many, 2-5 maybe? and as a result I'm going to be having the time of my life with all the people I'm close to So, when you get busted with a bunch of rolls in your pocket and you are sitting in jail...where do you think these friends of yours will be? Or better yet, when your 'friend' that sells you the rolls gets busted, how much would you bet that he narks you out? I know my old 'friends' that still use, bounce from friend to friends house because they have no place to live. They have money for drugs, but no home. And the other half are in jail. I am so glad I have nothing to do with them anymore.By the way, cops LOVE those little festivals.
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Honestly,
read what you wrote and tellme you dont see sometihng wrong with it?
tha word friends ?
look at the definition of the word, I dont think those fucks ya used to run with really qualify do you?
I prefer to refer to them as people I used to know, or my old connections, you give them too mcuh credit by refering to them even as ex friends, its credit they dont deserve. -
Hence why I typed it as 'friends'. I definately do not consider them friends.
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You contradict yourself that E is a safe drug but then you say that "of course it can damage your brain." Any drug that can slowly damage your brain isnt safe. So dont tell me that it is a safe drug because hearing from someone that their daughter died from taking one pill doesnt make me believe that it is a safe drug no matter what number of people died from it each year (that number is doubling every year by the way). p.s. Have fun at the festival "with the people that you are close to" and be careful.
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I said E is reletively safe as far as dying on it goes, if you go back and read. Summer, answer me a question, have you ever been drunk? Just because a drug is legal or illegle, natural or chemically produced doesn't make it better or worse. They class A drugs because they don't know much about them, not before they're more damaging for you. LSD is actually one of the safest drugs you could put in your body. there are NO physical damages as of it. Psychological damages, obviously. But no Physical. i.e. It's impossible to die from one hit, yet alcohol kills thousands a year? What does this tell you about the people who catagorise these drugs?There's no point of having an arguement on here, you guys can't seem to take the rough with the smooth. And now you're telling me that these aren't really my friends when I've known some of them since i was 5? We have the best times of our lifes every day and we make the group desicion to take something. None of us are 'druggies' and my friends most definately don't sell it. Like i said, once every 3 to 6 months, we'll sit down take a couple each and have an amazing time. Now back to Hel, i didn't say we can't have an amazing time while not on E. I just think it's nice once in a while to take it around close friends, have one kick ass chat about issues, and feel the love. You can't constantly go with the "drugs are bad" arguement, by saying this to the youth, you're basically saying "take drugs". Inform them man, inform them of the advantages, inform them of the disadvantages, inform them that the disadvantages outweigh the advantages and inform them that it isn't worth it. Some people make the decision to take drugs once in a while and i think you should learn to respect that fact, and the fact that this doesn't make people bad. Having said that, you shouldn't respect the people who abuse it, If they haven't got enough respect for their body, then I don't think they deserve respect. I hate seeing people walking down the street looking almost retarded through drug abuse.and in reply to: "So, when you get busted with a bunch of rolls in your pocket and you are sitting in jail...where do you think these friends of yours will be? Or better yet, when your 'friend' that sells you the rolls gets busted, how much would you bet that he narks you out? I know my old 'friends' that still use, bounce from friend to friends house because they have no place to live. They have money for drugs, but no home. And the other half are in jail. I am so glad I have nothing to do with them anymore."You obviously haven't been to a free festivals? And you're trying to call us criminals because we want to take a few? You are really trying to judge me and my friends aren't you? I can tell you one thing, i don't mix with bad people. Do you want me to give you a run down of what my friends do?Well, one of them is working as an accountant, one of them is in his last year of his psychology degree at the most respected university in england, one is studying music technology at the same university and giving £30 an hour piano lessons to professionals, and the other (ironically) is becoming a policeman next year. He's handed his application forms in, he's been out training on police days and he's just got to pass the 4th and final stage in about half a year after he finishes studying law at university. Ok, he takes E at in his youth like the rest of us? So what? He's going to end up drug free, big family, kids, living the dream with the women he loves, just like the rest of us. And me? I'm working for a telecommuncations company called Motorola. I'm sure you've heard of them. Moral of the story? Please don't judge people that you don't know. Just because someone takes a drug once or twice, doesn't make them a criminal, or an addict, or a bad person.Anyway, as for free festivals, the cops are there, well done. They're constantly looking over the festival, they can see every person is taking drugs, but they can't do anything as you, (and about 10,000 other people) have squatted the land. They aren't fussed about the drugs that are being taken, but they stand around in a big circle and watch to make sure nothing dangerous happens.I really don't know what people are like where you live. But here in the UK alot of them are very caring. Not the sort of people who would screw you over just to get money, or for their benefit. Festivals like these aren't full of idiots, rude boys, anything like that, they're hippies who set up their rigs, so other decent people can have a good time for the weekend. The festival is called Teknival. It's even in the encyclopedia, check it out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TeknivalI've never heard people be so single minded in my life. Using the "Drugs are bad" arguement is how old now? Why not tell a few people what they're REALLY like and let them make the conscious decision to do so? Rather than coming out with the "omg you're gonna be jailed lolz". Very intellectual and factual. well done.waits for post telling him that he's wrong again