Ok, im a 36 year old single mom. I have a 15 year old son who I feel, or felt was normal for his age. I got him a computer for his birthday. He uses it a lot in his room. He was away recently and I was suspicious about what he was doing on it. I got on it and looked through his "my documents" folder and was unpleasently greated. He had a very large file or porn. I know thats suppose to be normal and stuff for his age, but it still disturbed me and im going to have a talk with him. But what I was most shocked by was the conversations he had saved from AIM. He was talking with older guys and was impersonating as little girls, using strange aliases. They are very strange and disturbing. here is one i think exemplifies the behavior at great detail. I really don't know what to do, or even how to confront this with him. it seems really odd.Foxy Guy 00: hey asl?xxdani1992: hi 14 f mdxxdani1992: you?Foxy Guy 00: 31/mxxdani1992: where from? the l means locationFoxy Guy 00: azxxdani1992: coolFoxy Guy 00: any pics?xxdani1992: i dont know. im not on my normal computer. at my grandparents il checkFoxy Guy 00: you can tell me what you look likexxdani1992: i found a pic. my grandmother has someFoxy Guy 00: okxxdani1992 wants to directly connect.Foxy Guy 00 is now directly connected.Foxy Guy 00:xxdani1992:Foxy Guy 00: height, weight, bust sizexxdani1992: 4'9 98lb 32bFoxy Guy 00: a little thingxxdani1992: im only 14.. 32b is pretty big for 14 ya knowFoxy Guy 00: you horny at all?xxdani1992: yaFoxy Guy 00: do you phone sex?xxdani1992: no. my parents check my phone bill for odd numbersxxdani1992: sorry id breath into the mic if i couldFoxy Guy 00: so what do you do?xxdani1992: go to school.Foxy Guy 00: lol, not like that- cyber and stuffxxdani1992: oxxdani1992: roleplayFoxy Guy 00: nothin else?xxdani1992: thats my favFoxy Guy 00: gotcha... you good on giving details?xxdani1992: yaFoxy Guy 00: give me an example... like what your wearingxxdani1992: i have on a green tank top 1 size too small, pressing tight against my growing breasts. My bra is discarded and forgotten on the floor next to me. my jean skirt is lifted up so my pink thong is exposed as my legs are spread wide apartxxdani1992: what about you?Foxy Guy 00: hair is a bit shaggy from a day at school, shirt has been taken off to show my white tank top showing the works of my hours in the gym... kirra board shorts of white and blues are on, but hopefully not for long due to an ever growing and throbbing feeling inside my shortsxxdani1992: o ok. i idnt know we were describing sexual feeling and hair in "what we are wearing" mine woulda been better if i knoew sorryFoxy Guy 00: its alright, i was just testign your detailsxxdani1992: did i pass?Foxy Guy 00: pretty good if i do say so myself... and me?xxdani1992: jaFoxy Guy 00: what roles do you likexxdani1992: fantasy role playing.xxdani1992: you?Foxy Guy 00: anything where the girl has to do some skantily clad stuff... (strippers, models, etc)xxdani1992: what about pirates? i can be the slave girl you can be the captianFoxy Guy 00: ehhh.... not so much into the whole 'could never happen in the real world thing'xxdani1992: o. but priates are real not like a said we were dinosaursFoxy Guy 00: lol... but pirates are like 15th century realxxdani1992: no pirates are still around. they hop on peoples boats and take their stuffxxdani1992: plus the classic pirates were around till the 19th century. they are so kinkyFoxy Guy 00: im just saying- youre probably thinking the whole eye patch and parrot on the shoulder type piratesxxdani1992: ya. but no parrot i hate birdsxxdani1992: but its what i want. doesnt fantasy turn you on?Foxy Guy 00: ....not reallyxxdani1992: so you come up with an alteritiveFoxy Guy 00: well if it has to be something i like id have to go with me as a photographer and you as a lingerie or bikini modelxxdani1992: how bout we are pirates that discovered a camera?Foxy Guy 00: whats up with you and pirates...xxdani1992: they are kinky. ever seen pirates of the carribeanxxdani1992: johnny depp is so hotFoxy Guy 00: yup i was right you got the jack sparrow hotness thing going onxxdani1992: yaxxdani1992: so can we? you can be a sexy captainFoxy Guy 00: sorry... i dont get off to being a pirate...xxdani1992: ok well what if youre just wearing a pirate uniform, cus we are doing a pirate photo shoot, and we role play the pirate photo shoot?Foxy Guy 00: i can be a photographer shooting you in a pirate outfit...xxdani1992: you in 1 too?Foxy Guy 00: no...xxdani1992: what about steel armor of a conquistador?xxdani1992: i dont think they liked pirates either. so that will suit youFoxy Guy 00: sorry, but the whole being something else thing doesnt work for mexxdani1992: what the hell. thats what role playing is. otherwise it wouldbe called descriptive masturbationFoxy Guy 00: well id like to be something i could actually be... like a photographer or an athlete or a lawyer or a doctor...xxdani1992: what about an underground gladiator in the sewers of newyork city?Foxy Guy 00: now thats reachingFoxy Guy 00: lolxxdani1992: k so youll do it?xxdani1992: il be the pirate stereotype groupieFoxy Guy 00: wow... sorry but youre not going to get me to cross overxxdani1992: ok ok how bout a band memberFoxy Guy 00: and you a groupie?xxdani1992: a wanna be groupiexxdani1992: and i need to try outFoxy Guy 00: never knew you had to try out to be a groupie... is that really true??? lolxxdani1992: probably. if you were a rock star would you want a bunch of untalented ugly bitches sucking your dick?Foxy Guy 00: oh so its a traveling hootchie mama posistion youre trying out for...xxdani1992: yayaFoxy Guy 00: hmmm... this is getting betterFoxy Guy 00: lolxxdani1992: yaxxdani1992: you are in the armor wearing, death metal band, Gnarkillxxdani1992: you wear black pauldrons with spikes, black greaves a big belt and no shirtFoxy Guy 00: sorry, youre losing mexxdani1992: ok well you wear big spikey shoulder pad things. and big armored pants.xxdani1992: and weild a wicked axe (guitar)Foxy Guy 00: not working...xxdani1992: you dont need to work. you are done with the showxxdani1992: i do all the work im the ******* groupieFoxy Guy 00: yeah but do i still have all this **** on?xxdani1992: yeah but not after i take it off same as if you were a pirate, you wouldnt have pirate **** on when i take it off..xxdani1992: thats why im wondering why you are being so paranoid, it all boils down to hot sex but the outfits turn me on as i take them offFoxy Guy 00: um.... alright i guess we can do the pirate thingxxdani1992: o ok,not the groupie thing? k cool! finally you want hot pirate role playFoxy Guy 00: you start... i havent done a fantasy one beforexxdani1992: ok. we are on a ship, obviously. im the slave you captured from the last island you looted. im wearing tattered rags, a black bandana and a beltxxdani1992: you have me tied in shackles next to you at the flag staffFoxy Guy 00: i just really cant get into this. lol, i have no idea why... but i just cantxxdani1992: arr, cap'n wh're we he'd'n t' ? me neth'r regi'ns arr' ict'n wit' a fi'ry hung'rFoxy Guy 00: ...i cant understand a single word you just said... somethin about where we goingxxdani1992: (stay in character! i thought you said you were good at roleplaying)xxdani1992: avast! cap'n, i see lan' on ye starbo'rd side!Foxy Guy 00: ...sorry, i dont do this type of roleplayxxdani1992: ah' but me neth'r regi'ns ne'd attenti'n fr'm ye' cap'nFoxy Guy 00: sorry... this aint working for mexxdani1992: ah' all b't a we' bit shy' i se'Foxy Guy 00: ...xxdani1992: let me unbuck'l ye' belt 'n let down ye' britchesFoxy Guy 00: surexxdani1992: the' shackl' b' a we' bit t'te cap'n. coul' ye' use the' key 'n loos'n m' cap'n?Foxy Guy 00: ...take itxxdani1992: ah' such a kind cap'nxxdani1992: * i unshackle myself and stand up*xxdani1992: my long hair flows down as i stand and my tattered rags reveal a breastFoxy Guy 00: get on your knees and suck my big dick... and lose the accentxxdani1992: tis' n't a acc'nt cap'n. tis' th' wa' me speeksxxdani1992: * i get on my knees...*Foxy Guy 00: if youre going to keep talking like that, im not going to get into thisxxdani1992: (what the hell! I give you th emost powerful position possible in this role play, im a loely slave that just want to earn freedom through oral sex and all you can do is complain?! im not complaining im staying in character. a poor slave wouldnt have the best language skills, im not an aristocrat)xxdani1992: i unbuckle your gold buckle on your worn black leather beltxxdani1992: *i unfascen your greaves and throw them over board...*xxdani1992: then i unbutton your pantsxxdani1992: i slide them down your long hairy legsxxdani1992: ah' cap'n your britch's be filthy. don't ye' chang' ye britch's?Foxy Guy 00: im a ******* pirate... the laundry machine hasnt been invented yetxxdani1992: m' spot man's juice al' ov'r ye' britch'sxxdani1992: ahh' but me like ye' dirty britch'sxxdani1992: *i grap your britches around your waiste...*xxdani1992: and slide them down your legs to about knee levelxxdani1992: (come on this is role play you need to do something to, i dont wanan talk to my self)xxdani1992: (guide me into sucking the hard flag pole)Foxy Guy 00: yeah but this is crap to mexxdani1992: na' cap'n ye' britch's 's crap to' ye'Foxy Guy 00: the whole talking thing is buggin the **** out of mexxdani1992: o you dont want me to?xxdani1992: sorryxxdani1992: i thought you liked itFoxy Guy 00: talking in that stupid accent...Foxy Guy 00: uh noxxdani1992: kxxdani1992: well i wont thenxxdani1992: i mime the motions of wanking a hard cock look up at you and smile to see if you approveFoxy Guy 00: ...jesus christ... its like talking to a brick wallxxdani1992: i back away on my knees, and give an expression of question i am clearly confused by your mood swingFoxy Guy 00: ...talk in a normal voice... i dont want no accent or slang or mime *xxdani1992: o sorry. you were misleadingFoxy Guy 00: ...xxdani1992: so you want your cock sucked?xxdani1992: baby you got to talk to me when im sucking youFoxy Guy 00: if you talk like that i willxxdani1992: kxxdani1992: im gonna type a really big scenexxdani1992: so dont intertuptxxdani1992: lots of detailFoxy Guy 00: kxxdani1992: ah' cap'n ye ha' me' wond'r'n. was' 'fraid ye' may a' be'n a we' b't fa'ry. i pull down your dirty britches and lick the back end of them. you smile a' so' cap'n lik' 'is sea sal'd toss'd 'bout. you nod, motioning that you do i wander behind you i put my tongue inside your secreating ass you smile more cap'n ye' lik' t'is eh'? you say yes i unbuckel my torn belt and pull off my tattered rags i reveal my 12 inch cock cap'n wan' b' an'ly so'miz'd? you say yes i put my hard man cock inside of your tiny wet ass and pound you you are distracted from the prostate massage and i take your gun cap'n, 'hos 'n chrg' now eh'? i pull your head down and you suck me off ah' fe'l gre't cap'n. t' bad 't be th' last fr'm ye' i aim the .45cal Heckler & Koch USP Tactical(universal self-loading pistal) with under-light sidescope and lasor site at your forhead and pull the trigger i continue to analy sodemise you ah' tis' a gre't cap'nFoxy Guy 00: yeah...ok...Foxy Guy 00: you are one messed up personxxdani1992: tis' but a roleplay cap'nxxdani1992: ye' lik' 't?xxdani1992: di' me mak' ye' e'actulat'?Foxy Guy 00: **** noxxdani1992: me di', twic'Foxy Guy 00: im not even touching myselfxxdani1992: me h'rd co'k 's 'n me 'and rit' nowFoxy Guy 00: you are one twisted xxdani1992: ah' cap'n do't get ye' nick'rs in a twis'Foxy Guy 00: w/e... youre one sick puppyxxdani1992: puppy? naxxdani1992: im a 32 year old balding man no puppyFoxy Guy 00: again... sickxxdani1992: ah' but cap'n ye' lik' it?Foxy Guy 00: ...xxdani1992: (stop breaking character and metagaming!)Foxy Guy 00: you are by far the weirdest person ive met on AIMxxdani1992: ah' me' mus' sa' t'at 's dou'tfu'xxdani1992: o **** mom made hamburger helper! damn i wanna stay and chat with you but shes getting restlessFoxy Guy 00: .... weirdFoxy Guy 00 signed off at 7:03:26 PM.
Worried and dont know what to do. help needed
Lol. I wouldn't worry about that at all. Well not much. Your son is just pulling those cyber perves' chains. There is a website which you can submit those to, quite amusing actually.
I wouldn't be worried about your son hooking up with older guys, I think it's just a bit of a laugh for him. But to be sure have a talk to him, but try to be open.
so you dont think hes getting sexual enjoyment out of this? i do see how it could be funny for him he has a good sense of humor and i do see how he is kind of being a fool in this. but i dont know, some fetishes are pretty in debth and stuff and even weird stuff other would never think possible to be enjoyable (like being 31 and tyring to hook up with a 14 year old) people get enjoyment out of.
It seems too much of a joke to me to be a fetish. Ask him to be sure. But I think he's probably doing it to post it on some website.
ok well i wasnt aware that people this kind of stuff as jokes . It is common among teens?he wont be back for another 2 days. If anyone sees this on one of these websites youre speaking of then it will probably washaway my fears, so if you see this somewhere on one of these prank sites or whatever they are, let me know please. thanks
**Hi hon, welcome to the forum.
Firstly as a mother myself, this is something that i know i will have to deal with at some point. I didn't know whether to laugh or what when i read the chat log - its just so wierd. He is obviously just going out there to mess with people, from that chat log, i don't think that its a sexual thing - it was almost like he was seeing how far he could push the guy before he stopped talking to him. On the others is he more sexual, as in not joking around, or is this the way he is a lot - just out to get a reaction from someone?
As for the porn on the PC, well i would imagine a lot of boys his age, with internet access has the same kinda thing - which is worrying for me as the porn they have access to through the internet is far more graphic and explicit and hardcore AND accessable, than a teen would typically be able to get his or her hands on in mags etc.......
Your son is growing up and will have urges to see and experience different things, and my worry is that though we worry about our children, should we stand back and allow them to do stuff we know is dodgy.
Im not sure you should confront him just yet. The porn in the my documents folder, unless its weird stuff, could be just put down to 15 year old behavior, and i would keep an eye on the chat logs. They are weird, but not dangerous, as in he isn't meeting anyone on there etc. If they become more dangerous in their content etc then yes, you will have to tackle him, but maybe at the moment just monitor the situation (even tho that will feel like spying on him :frowning: ) and only tackle him about it IF it seems to be becoming a problem.
Alright. Yes much of the conversations were very similar to that. And yeah I wasn't so much worried about the porn. I know that is pretty normal for his age, and no, from what i saw it wasn't "weird" porn. Seemed pretty typical. One thing I did forget to mention was the name of the chats. Most he had were just logs of him talking to his friends, which I don't really want to read, it would feel wrong. But the reason i looked at some of these was their names. This one was entitled "FOXXY BAITING" which seemed a little odd and caught my attention. I see where the "FOXXY" came from, its the guy's user name. But... Is "baiting" a slang term for masturbation? Thats kind of what got me wondering about the whole thing to begin with. And yes I'm going to keep an eye on the names of his chat logs, and check all the strangely named one just to be safe. Thanks for your help, This site seems pretty useful to be honest, a nice resource. I was told of it when asking a friend for advise on the at hand topic.
No "baiting" isn't slang for masterbation, at least i don't think so LOLIt take FOXY baiting, as just what he was doing, winding the guy up - getting a reaction, take the piss out of the guy - I don't think its anything sexual at all. I am SO dreading it when my kids reach the dreaded teen years scared
Lol yeah a lot of weird stuff. This is the weirdest so far though. Really hoping it stays that way.
Baiting 1. To place a lure in (a trap) or on (a fishing hook). 2. To entice, especially by trickery or strategy. 3. To set dogs upon (a chained animal, for example) for sport. 4. To attack or torment, especially with persistent insults, criticism, or ridicule. 5. To tease. 6. To feed (an animal), especially on a journey.From the sounds of it I would say that you have nothing to worry about at all, he seems to be an intelligent kid. There is one thing I would like to comment on tho. Even tho you are his mother and you have the right to protect your son, checking out his My Documents and especially reading his chat logs, these can be a great invasion of privacy. I am 18 and I would never allow my parents to read my chat logs. Not because they contain vulgar or explicit conversations, but simply because it is my personal life with my friends. Parents do not have the right to know everything that a child, especially a teenager, says to his friends. A lot of my chat logs contain conversations about my own personal problems that don't concern my parents, or I just don't feel ready to tell them yet.Basically all I'm trying to say is that you should respect your son's privacy, when you tell your son that you have been looking through his files you could have a very angry teenager on your hands.
I disagree Bob.As a parent, she not only has the right to look at his computer, she has an obligation to know what's going on with him. That's a big problem these days - parents who place their kids' "right to privacy" over their need for supervision, guidance, and correction. If more parents were as proactive as this mother is, I dare say fewer kids would be victimized by stalkers and internet perverts.To the mother - I tend to be the lone voice crying out in the wilderness on this, but I don't believe at all that the porn is nothing to worry about. Typical teenage boy behavior? Probably. Let it go? Not so sure. He could be setting himself up for a pattern of addiction or whatever else that will haunt him for the rest of his life. I'm not saying all kids who collect porn are gonna be addicts, but it's a real possibility. The statistics aren't encouraging. If you found a case of Coronas in his closet, would you let it go cause it's typical teenage behavior.I think you or his father (if he's in the picture) should talk to him about it. Make him aware of the risks that come with using porn.
Well I was just saying that from my point of view, altho I suppose I'm not like most teenage boys my age. I don't think I've had porn on my computer for a few years now. But I suppose you're right Damien, altho I hate you.
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But I suppose you're right Damien, altho I hate you.
Life as we know it is over. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
very common, that shit I wouldnt worry so much about, when it starts out normal and then gets odder and odder and more outrageous as it goes on Id ALMOST rule anythng but baiting these pervs.
soetimes people send em back and forth to other buddies they have to laugh at the perv, sometime tey post them on variou sweb sites making fun of people for packing thier hand on the puter.
fhe saved the convof, thats the first reason Id start thinkig its a joke, if he was just having the convos and you ahd a keystroke program on an found it that way, Id worry, but that fact he saves them and they get more an more outrageous as they go on, imply to atlest me that it a joke and he thnks its funny.
Id bust his ass over it, but I wouldnt worry about hs secuality and what strange shit he is into andif its unhelathy.
he is ealing with fucking scum bag predators who are seeking out little girls, that cant be safe, Id bust hs ass over that alone if it were my son.
I think you can more determine if you should worry by what type of porn he has. look at that shit and see if its shit that lines up with the fetish behavior in his convos.
Id look ito installing a firewall or router.
if you use a router you can fbock all his shit from it and its firewall while any other computers in the house still have unrestricted access.
I do it to my kids all the time.
I ook at the log file that they cant edit about where there computer has been, its built into the router so tey cant screw with it. if I se sites that I dont want them on, I simply block them from the IP addy of thier computer from accessing them.
It takes keeping u on it and checking the sht out from time to time to see what they been up to and alot of peole think Im a real bastard for doing it, I see it however as my parental right and even responsability to make sure I know what my kids are doing and where they have been.
most of those that think Im too hard and ama snoopy rotten batard for a parent, are punk ass kids who have had a taste of it from thier own parents.
My house my rules, I pay the bills and the kids do what I say and i do what I want. as a parent you have the same right ot run your house as you see fit. people that let kids run amok and do what they want are the reason for little bastards runnning into me in walmart and tallking shit and throwing fit and screaming and thinking they can do what they want rather then what society says is acceptable.
be a parent and take it into your own hands and if it pisses him off, too bad, your house, your rules.
- standing and applauding Chance *
Well, I've just turned 16 and I'd have to say that for a teenage boy with his own computer and internet access, I'd be more surprised if he hadn't looked at porn.
As for that conversation, he might have been messing around like eveyrone else has said. Maybe as a laugh when a friend came over...
Hope that helps.
although your looking out for your son, i think in a way your kind of invading his privacy imo, i really dont like the idea of my parents snooping around my room etc because its my personal space. if you did confront him you could loose his trust, hes a teenage guy and its normal to have porn etc on his computer, if its nothing out of the ordinary i would just leave it, and also respect his privacy in the future
In reply to: i think in a way your kind of invading his privacy He only has privacy cause his parents choose to give him that privilege. In reply to: its my personal space. Actually, unless you're paying the rent or your name is on the mortgage, it's their personal space and they are letting you use parts of it. In reply to: if you did confront him you could loose his trust Guess your not as concerned about him losing their trust, huh? In reply to: its normal to have porn etc on his computer It's also normal for a teenager to lie and talk back at their parents and sneak out at night, but you wouldn't expect a parent to tolerate those things, no?
this is my opinion, onviously ive never been a parent but i know what its like to be a teenager, my friends parenst tidy through her room at every chance when she leaves the house, thats invading privacy in my opinion.i guess ive got a good relationship with my parents in this respect, our house is our house, not their house, they dont think that money will be the deciding point, saying that every room in the house belongs to them. so no, i dont help pay the mortgage! lol but i do have my room which they dont usually interfere with unless they ask me...my mum sometimes wants to help clean the room but generally she doesnt snoop around etcsure, i think parents should look out for their kids, but i also think you need to draw the line somewhere (yes which is difficult) and let them develope in their own way without completely monitering their every stepobviously we disagree, lol, lets not get into an arguement about it, we have different views
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Actually, unless you're paying the rent or your name is on the mortgage, it's their personal space and they are letting you use parts of it.
I've used this line with my parents before, and its such a typical teenage thing to say, but what choice do they have?
But now for a more adult and objective argument:
Convention on the Rights of the Child
Section 1. The child shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of the child's choice.
Section 2. The exercise of this right may be subject to certain restrictions, but these shall only be such as are provided by law and are necessary:
(a) For respect of the rights or reputations of others; or
(b) For the protection of national security or of public order (ordre public), or of public health or morals.
Offences Against Public Morals And Decency
1 - Bigamy
2 - Prostitution and related offences: Public Interest Considerations
3 - Child Prostitution
4 - Procuring, causing or encouraging prostitution
5 - Living on or controlling prostitutes
6 - Keeping a brothel
7 - Loitering or soliciting for prostitution
8 - Kerb crawling
9 - Soliciting/importuning between men for an immoral purpose
10 - Public Nuisance
11 - Committing an act outraging public decency