Acid

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That's fine, but that wasn't clear in your first post.

Shrooms, thats the ticket. natural and inspiring!

nope... shrooms are too natural. not directed enough. too much body buzz.acid is clinical an precise

well your best bet is to cut your losses and write your friend(s) off as a lost-cause. which is easier said than done for caring individuals such as ourselves. but in a world like the one we live in, it's in our best interest to worry about ourselves (as selfish as that sounds) and steering away from people that veer towards substances that can blind oneself from the truely beautiful world that's out there. hanging out with weak minded individuals can often make oneself weak in more ways than one. if you leave your friend(s) alone and they choose to drug again then the wheels of destiny have turn not in your friendship's favor. but should they ever come to for help be a friend and not a mark. cause in my own life i have seen people that were destined for greatness go down the drain in less than a year. as much as i tried to help, my words and actions fell on deafened ears and blinded eyes, and in the end apathy turnned out to be the best solution.... true friends are hard to find. but just as you have found them, you'll be able to find more.

That might be in our best interests, but that's not a good test of what's right to do. I agree that often there's nothing much you can do, and it's important to accept that people are responsible for themselves and have the right to make their own decisions; but deliberately not caring and (even more) avoiding such people seem cold to me.

so, you'd cut a friend free after one hit?Acid has to be one of the most misrepreseted drugs I've ever seen. Reminds me of the old movie "reefer madness"Am I condoning the use of acid (or any illicit drug)? noAm I proud of how much I did in the past? noAm I permanerntly affected by my useage... ummm... I have a carreer that I'm almost at the top of, I have a beautiful and healthy child, I have a lot of friends, I don't have flashbacks. So, again, nobut, again, in re-reading your post, it's just a canned, anti-drug response. very clever

after one hit....naw i'd ask them if they enjoyed it and see if the wanted to get somemore. (not that i do or use drugs anymore) i'd also probly offer them a place to do it and pull out the blacklights, the strobe lights, hell maybe even the smoke machine and let them play with all the trip-toys i have from my highschool/college days. i have some bad as trance, techno, industrial, classic rock, (doors, led zeppelin, jimi, pink floyd, greatful dead) and some really, really trippy posters, stuffed away in my closet, that you can get lost in on a head full of acid....i personally believe everyone should "fry-balls" at least once or ten times in thier lives. i just didnt want to condone drug use on this site cos i remember not too long ago i got a lashing for explaining how to smoke to a youngen. (who would probly have smoked even if i hadnt told him....) i'm now just trying to be supportive. (though i feel like even that gets criticized) besides, we all know that if people try it once. nine times out of ten they'll do it again, and then probly again...and so on. not cos it's addictive but because it's so much fun taking a trip without goin anywhere! whats the big deal with writing friends off....you cant concern yourself with their problems when you got problems of your own right? (that's the damn nosey neighbor syndrome that this whole country seems to have...all for the sake of being a "concerned-citizen/friend") besides, if you didn't write those friends off, wouldnt that just put you where they are? cos after all your only as good as the people you surround yourself with. man...from personal experience you dont have friends once drugs come into play anyways. and, if you tell someone about what your friends are doing. then that could just mean more damage would, more than likely, come your way. either form being a narc, and/or from getting between someone and their "good-time". mind you, i never said apathy was the answer...i merely said it was a solution. a solution that would probly best benefit anyone that isnt looking to make life harder than it already is.and thank you, unsupervised, for seeing my response for what it is...

original poster> My best friend did acid tonight.. [emphaisis added]

croix> whats the big deal with writing friends off....you cant concern yourself with their problems when you got problems of your own right?

You sound very self-centered. I'm glad you're not my best friend. Would you dispose of a wife or child that easily?

first off, this thread is getting off topic.wife and kids...wtf? family is something you cant change. friends and associates, you can.In reply to: You sound very self-centered. I'm glad you're not my best friend. we all know, or at least we all should know, how foolish it is to pass judgment on persons we dont know...

The OP is talking about her best friend. She wants to help him. You told her to dump him. What exactly does it say? Is it really unfair to pass judgement on that?Just to clarify for you, it's the idea of disposable relationships. You can dump your friend, but you can also dump your wife, or cut off communication with your parents, or give up your child for adoption, if any of them offends you.> well your best bet is to cut your losses and write your friend(s) off as a lost-cause.Dump a best friend because he tried acid? Are you serious?Is it fair to judge anyone about anything under any circumstance?

god for bid we ever look out for our own best interest by not associating with people who are willing to sample a unfavorable lifestyles, no matter how close they are to us....

No one said anything about not looking out for your own interests. The question is, how disposable is a best friend? They try LSD and you dump them forever? You must be pretty freakin' goddam perfect yourself.

I think dumping a best friend over one acid trip would be pretty extreme, but there is sense in what you're saying about how we have to protect ourselves against the influcences of other peoples bad habits, definatly. As a recovering addict I cannot associate with people who would do drugs in my company, just cannot, simple as that. There is NOBODY I wouldnt turn my back on if they became a habitual drug user, because I am a mother and I have a young child to look out for and my sobriety is not going to be put at stake. It would be too big a gamble with very little return and bad odds.

word... In reply to: I think dumping a best friend over one acid trip would be pretty extreme on the same note of being extreme. you also have to look at some of the extreme things we, as drug users and/or addicts, do/did when we're under the influences of substances. and question if doing something of this extreme nature, when we're sober (to avoid possible pit-falls in our own life), is actually be more viable. because in theory, doing such would prevent the whole chain of events and actions that the aforementioned lifestyle tends to bring.

Does your extreme reaction stem from a history of substance abuse on your part?I know a number of people who have tried LSD once or twice (although I've never tried it). Whether or not it was a good idea, it didn't have much impact on my life, or theirs, for that matter. I realize that sometimes even one dose can have a bad effect, and I'm not endorsing the drug, but I'm glad I didn't break off relations with the people who did try it.I think you're being a bit dramatic with the "chain of events" thing. Just being born leads to all kinds of problems. So does most human interaction.

if you read my post i never said i would dump my bestfriend for trying lsd or any other drug. i said, i would most likely give them a controlled enviroment so they could enjoy their trip/high. the advice of dumping your bestfriend (b'cos they tried lsd/drugs) to avoid possible future pit-falls, is what it is, and that's advice. nothing more. nothing less. i only went to the extreme of telling her to dump her bestfriend, because theoretically it's the most feasible, while not the easiest nor "friendliest", choice to make for someone looking to better their existance in a society where selling, using or having anything to do with such substances is illegal.In reply to: You must be pretty freakin' goddam perfect yourself. i, like everyone, am not with out flaws. maybe, me not wanting to personally take on other persons unfavorable choices is one of my many flaws. on the flip-side to that coin. maybe you choosing to take on the burdens of others is one of your flaws...?

"Taking the burden of others?" That sounds very dramatic, but I don't know what it means. When my friends tripped, it wasn't a burden on me. I had a roomate who would always lose his keys at inopportune times, and hold everyone up. I didn't dump him either.Even if it were a burden (I've dealt with drunk friends on occasion), such is life. You don't dump someone who means a lot to you for the occasional burden. If you're not perfect, I'd wager that there are times that you have been a burden on your friends and family.But seriously, someone taking an LSD trip is not much of a burden on me. I don't understand what's motivating all this drama.> choice to make for someone looking to better their existance in a society where selling, using or having anything to do with such substances is illegal.If we dumped our friends every time they did something illegal, no one would have any friends. Would you dump a friend for speeding? I'm not saying that you should like or condone the use of illegal drugs, but you are being rather harsh and judgemental towards others.

your cynisim has to be going over better in your head than it is going online. In reply to: Just being born leads to all kinds of problems. So does most human interaction. in your case, i can empathize with why you would believe this....

In reply to: If we dumped our friends every time they did something illegal, no one would have any friends. or would we all have friends that didnt do illegal things?

My cynicism? I thought I was being humane and kind. It's cynical to suggest that dumping a best friend because he tried LSD? To suggest being tolerant of the flaws of others? That's cynical? Who's being cynical?> Just being born leads to all kinds of problems. So does most human interaction. You need to familiarize yourself with the idea of irony. The point is that as soon as you're born, you start doing things that annoy other people. Thankfully most people are tolerant enough to deal with it. The only alternative is to live in a cabin in the woods, by yourself.