Fetal stem cell reasearch veto

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Just the thought of the death penalty fills my head with bunny rabbits.

The detterence is in the knowledge that altho an innocent person may die, his body won't be used for stem cell research.

I believe I have seen at least a couple of accounts of researchers who agree that research on adult stem cells is not only sufficient, but possibly superior. I'll try to dig them up.There may be a fringe element that believes it, but I don't think a single person who is actually engaged in stem cell research would agree. If you find one kook who does agree, I don't think I'll be impressed.The fetal stem cell lines that are in use are contaminated, according to the researchers, which means they may not be very useful.> Once again, everyone is pretending this is only a scientific issue. It's much more than that.In this area, the moral argument rings very hollow. And what really pisses me off is when people with a right-wing religious agenda try to talk science, stating as if it's a fact that adult stem cells are every bit as useful as fetal stem cells. Those folks can go ahead and make their moral arguments, but they need to STFU when it comes to science.Are the "creation science" people on the same page as the anti-stem-cell researchers? They're probably the same people.The idea that a small ball of cells has equal standing to an adult human is not widely accepted, and doesn't even have any scriptural foundation, for what it's worth.

They take the cells from Blastocysts, maybe its just me but 150 cells don't make up a human. The people who argue against stem cell research all probably eat meat that has been harvested from animals. Living creatures were slaughtered for them to have dinner, yet they won't allow the reproduction of a cluster of cells to cure cancer.

They probably eat meat from farm animals that aren't humanely raised, and hardly give it a second thought.The issue is with "potential human life", but now that an animal (including a human) can be cloned from an arbitrary single cell, that whole idea would seem to fly out the window.The irony is that Bush's "war on terrorism" is really a war on fundamentalist Islam. However, there is little qualitative difference between fundamentalist Judaism, Christianity, or Islam. With the exception of a few blissed-out Christians who are high on Jesus, the rigid, authoritarian, judgmental mindset is common to all of them.The Irish, at least, understand what a terrible thing it is when religion and government get tangled up with each other. They both become corrupted, and democracy and freedom of independent thought get incinerated.[This is a bit of a tangent, but a Jordanian diplomat recently said of America's flagging attempt to spread democracy throughout the Middle East...The Islamic fundamentalists use democracy like toilet paper: they use it once, then throw it out.]

In reply to: Bastard. Its the Irish Sea and you damn know it!! They both exist! St Georges Channel is the area of water inbetween the Irish sea and the celtic sea. Though to be honest I had to check that up, I thought that they were interchangable names for the same bit of water.

Yes, but its just... St. George's Channel. The name is so... I doon't know how to describe it. But I don't like it.

It is perhaps a little too English. St Davids channel would be better *nods*

Too British. St.Patrick's Channel! Much better!

Its bad enough with St Patricks day recieving world wide recognition as a day to get drunk. Lets redress the balance by renaming that island you live on as West Britain.

Sorry Owain. I live in Western Britain. See, cause I'm all in the west and stuff. Below me is South West Britain.

You should call it... Britannia! A cheap knockoff but hey, who notices? :sunglasses:

Oh, how about we call Wales "England's Bitch"?

Irelands the only bitch I know, pimped off by Britain to every country we ever made.

Dun dun dun! A long fued is now fueld!

Ireland is the only country to kick Britain's ass from less than 50km away! Screw India and America, they had a shit load of distance between them and mainland Britain, we're right next to ya!

Britain owns half the world! While Irish just fight each other and get drunk, actually that doesn't sound too bad!I wish these damn countires kept the sexy accents but nooo, they had to be losers!

Kick our ass? You spent 500 odd years picking potatoes under the St George, and then the Union Jack. Hell you havnt even managed to get all your country back yet.And do tell me, when did India kick our ass rolls eyes

Have you looked at the world recently? The British Empire is pathetic now! And Irish aren't drunk ruffians, we're scholars and scientists and Nobel Prize winners and Neo-Natzi drug lord killers!

We still got the Falklands! (and the Pitcairn islands, full of former-pirate paedophiles, what more could ya want?)And hey dont think you got no monopoly on Neo-Natzi drug lord killers. One day we're gnna kill all your neo-natzi drug lord killers and then we'll have the best neo-natzi drug lord killers in the world! Our neo-natzi drug lord killers teh pawnz ur neo-natizi drug lord killerz!!!!!11211

It was 900 years of slavery, actually. And when I say "kicked your ass" I was talking about Ireland, India simply got independence the pussy way.