Really Weird

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Hmm. That's a very good point. That would explain why I can't when it's pointing up; I thought it was that the contractions were weak as it was, and uphill was just too much to ask, but when I think about it it would make sense that when it's pointing up is when it would make the biggest mess, and I just subconciously stop the ejaculation because I might make a mess. It MIGHT also explain the lack of any feeling when I ejaculate; I've heard the better the orgasm the more the ejaculate and the further it goes, thus the more mess it makes. Hmmmmmm.... Very interesting. I guess the obvious question is; how could I solve this mess-phobia?Yeah, just letting it sit overnight made it smell very strong; good thing the box has a lid. I empty it out every time and run a wet peice of toilet paper over it every other time, so let's hope it holds up for awhile, because when I run out of boxes, I'm out of luck.

Have either of you parents actually said something to you ever?Maybe you're over-reacting to nothing. Cockefeller

Yes. Short history:When I was 4 I started masturbating, and was caught. I was disciplined for it. Then, I continued on in secrecy until about 14, when we had another talk about it, and I was told it was OK and that they just thought I was too young then, though they failed to tell me that then and it put a lot of stress on me. They told me it was OK, but put alot of emphasis on it being, more or less, something that they would rather I not do but know I have to so I might as well but shouldn't very often.

This is getting stranger and stranger. Maybe it is a coincidence, but I have found out that I have no refactory time. None. I can get hard again without trying within 5 minutes of ejaculating. I hope it's a coincidence, but maybe it means that somehow ejaculation and orgasm have mentally gotten unlinked inside somehow, and I'm reaching ejaculation but need to go longer to actually reach orgasm and tell my brain to start the refactory period... Maybe I'll test it soon. Just an alternate theory.

It's not unusual for refractory time to be only a few minutes in your teens, even with normal orgasms.

Hmm. Odd. In that case, does anyone think it could be the first theory? I mean, I can definitly tell that every time I think about possibly masturbating I tense up and my mind clouds with 'What if I'm caught?' 'What if I make a mess?' 'What will I clean up with?' and so on constantly.

Hey, I just had a thought about your box situation. Ever thought of getting a metal box? I mean like an old cookie tin or something....that way, there'd be no odor and you could use it over and over again without it falling apart. If there's not one lying around your house, you could probably find one at a garage or yard sale for the change in your pocket.Just a thought.

Those sort of anxieties could well be causing the problem, 3DMapper.

Well, that's certainly true, but as he's apparently not interested in rooting them out at the moment, I say let him go until with them until he gets bored with all the effort. I gotta tell ya, if jerking off were that much work for me, I'd probably never do it....

Hey, I most certainly am interested in rooting them out - how can I, though?Yeah, it's almost not worth the trouble... The only reason I do it with any frequency is because I'm supposed to for the epididymitus...

Well, I may be onto something. Last night I tried just laying down and relaxing completely. Then I tried focusing on the feelings, trying to make them stronger, and trying to make them felt through my entire body instead of just that one area. Then, when I finished, I felt more than I remember feeling except for one or two other times in my entire life. I think I might get it yet...

Yeah. You do need to relax. Just realize it's natural and normal and jiz is the result. I usually shoot onto my chest or abs and just rub it in, showering takes care of it.

Yeah, I agree, and thats a very good way of putting it, thanks! Very inspiring. I forgot to mention, I think, that I also made sure that I recognized the fact that I need to stop rushing it and just do it and when I finish, well, thats an added bonus, not the goal.Well, last night complicated things further. I never knew something so simple could be so complex. This time as I started to finish I did something thats hard to explain - I stopped thinking about anything whatsoever and just focused on myself, and I had even less feeling than normal but it came out really, really, REALLY hard and far. Strange, strange science this is... I'll figure it out...

Complicated? Dude, it doesn't sound to me like you're relaxing at all. How complicated could it be? Millions of men around the world jerk off every damn day. You jerk it, you shoot, you either wipe up, rub it in, eat it if you want, but, like, there's nothing to be concerned about.

Nothing to be concerned about? If I don't feel a thing normally when I finish, I think that's something to be concerned about... It makes me very jelous, hearing about how good it feels and how amazing it is, when for me it's like 'Oh, it's over. I hadn't noticed.'Yeah, I wish it weren't complicated, but it is... For me.Sorry if I sounded rude, I'm just getting frustrated. I grew up feeling this way and thinking to myself regularly 'This is that sex thing everyone raves about? It isn't that good, what are they talking about?!'

I didn't mean to sound rude, bro. I guess I don't understand what the problem is, even though I read that other thread too. You have no sensation when you jerk off? That seems like an entirely different issue than what you'd discussed before. As for what you said before, about not shooting much-- well that happens sometimes, some loads arent as big or as powerful as others that's all. If you have no feeling in your penis or somethin, then that's a medical issue and we need to call on the experts.

No, you didn't, I was just afraid I did.Well, it feels normal, very good most of the time or at least 'worth it', until I ejaculate, at which point, just before I ejaculate and throughout, I feel nothing pleasurable. It's so weird.Well, not shooting much happens sometimes, true, but this time I could feel something not right - I somehow actually stopped in the middle. It wasnt one of those things where you didnt have my=uch TO shoot, it was where you had as much as needed for a full ejaculation but it stopped in the middle because I panicked, which I didn't even know was possible. (BTW, it's happened 2 - 3 times since that post - odd.)Yeah, I guess it is...

Well, this is getting weirder. Now I'm feeling less and less during the buildup. I have always been a shooter, and always normally had about a tablespoon or so come out... Now it just oozes, and I get a teaspoon if I'm lucky. I think I'm going to get a doctor's appointment, this just doesn't seem right.

you probley had another post about this but why do you need a box why can you just throw them away i have a trash can in my room thats what i do

Well, just as an update to anyone who might be having the same problem, it is getting better. It certainly is not normal yet, but I've gotten a ton more comfortable about it, just letting it happen pretty much, and it's to the point where I feel something very good every single time. Not excellent, often, but very good. One time it was to the point where it made my physically spasm, which is like nothing I had ever felt before. I think it's curable, and I think relaxing and just letting it happen is the answer. I have found socks to be the perfect 'hiding place' for it, and have gotten very comfortable with that as well. 6 months ago I would never have even thought of doing that - what if someone sees it in the washing machine, or what if it dosent come out, or what if it dosent wash out right in the washer, or what if- and I would think these things far too much, and now I just don't worry about it, because it just isn't a big deal. It used to be, but I realized that that is just silly and it needs to stop, and it is stopping very slowly and as a result I seem to be curing it through that. Needless to say it's very exciting to finally be able to feel something I never could feel.