The Popes address on Islam..

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Your are absolutely right unsupervised, when referring to the paedophilic sexual abuse clearly endemic in the Catholic church as an example of how Catholicism has no right in pointing the finger at any other religion regarding modern-day wrongdoing; but I must point out that the strife and violence you refer to here may have a religious face as presented to and accepted by the rest of the world, but I can tell you, it has a political soul. When a person in Ireland states in company that they are either Protestant or Catholic, they are not making a statement of religious identification, they are making a political one. Religion, believe it or not, scarcely comes into it. I could go on all day teasing out examples of this, but I trust that you will accept that, as an Irishwoman, I know what I am talking about.

You forgot to point out the Islamic Extreamists... stupid think their religion is law...loool!

I beleive you totally because I know the pollitical face of religion. There is pollitics in any and every group and it tends to be a stronger driving force that the faith that brought the group together in the first place.That's why so many people are willing to commit crimes against their religion in the name of that religion.

"That's why so many people are willing to commit crimes against their religion in the name of that religion"And some people view that as an irony unsupervised, but I view it as the unmasking of their true agendas. Thank God I am talking to somebody who knows what they're talking about, explaining this situation to people uneducated and unenlightened in the reality of religious and political fusion is a frustrating experience indeed.This country is absolutely steeped in that pretence at ignorance, which is actually a camouflage for denial. They know what is going on, but so many refuse to acknowledge it. If I hear another Republican proclaim themselves to be Catholic, or another Unionist proclaim themselves to be Protestant, I swear to God I will puke.

In reply to: unmasking of their true agendas well said... that is EXACTLY the issue.

i spose it cuz honnor is a big thing for islamic ppl generallyThis is what formed the context of your "some Moslems" [paraphrase] comment.If you respond, try to do it by focusing on the discussion, rather than the personalities who are engaged in the discussion.

In reply to: If you respond, try to do it by focusing on the discussion, rather than the personalities who are engaged in the discussion. LOL! Good one, Steve!

"i spose it cuz honnor is a big thing for islamic ppl generally"Nowhere in this thread did I make the above comment. If you respond, I would suggest you read through the thread again so that you might morph, like a caterpiller to a butterfly, from simply an arsehole, to an informed one - Good luck with that.

Can you not read his Signature, lol! In reply to: Informed Asshole

Oops, wrong person quoted. My apologies.I wonder how widespread the protests are, though. How many people are participating? Is it just a hypersensitive fringe? It's hard to tell from the news reports.___________________________When responding to a comment, it would be preferable to dispense with personal attacks. It really adds no value to the discussion, or any of the threads, to engage in such insults and attacks. Discussion such as this one should not be run largely on emotion. There appears not to be a quota here for insulting people when not using off-color language, but it would really be nice if we could have an exchange that sticks to the subject.

It was CuteNCrazy who said "i spose it cuz honnor is a big thing for islamic ppl generally", not Starfish.

Ehhh, yes! My sarcastic comments had their roots in that signature - duuhhhhh! Get with it! How old are you?

Thanks boobs, nice to know somebody is paying attention!

No problem tits.

I'm hoping we can have a civil discussion.

It would be hard to tell most things from your perspective Steve, I would imagine: you are so quick to jump on anybody for the sake of argument, for your own entertainment, as I have pointed out to you before now; and that is hardly conducive to a receptive view of the world.The thing is; I am too well paid to type words into my computer to give mine to you for free. I have a novel suggestion which might clear up this dilemma though; why don’t you set up another username, from a different computer if it is not possible from your own? That way you could argue with yourself while causing nobody else inconvenience or irritation..If you are hoping for a civil discussion you really ought try not disembowel people rhetorically. And if you persist in attempting to do so, I would suggest you find an adversary who doesn’t make their living out of playing with words.

Hey, lets stop this now, before it gets really dirty and we have to take it over to the masturbation thread, LOL!

Oh, not sure if I wanna get dirty with a well paid novelist!! Or maybe I do... how much are you paid?

Ha ha, that much I'm keepin to myself. As for novelists, as far as eroticism is concerned, websexinfo has missed his calling, believe me.. Shit, did you read his post? I cant rememeber the thread, but that fucker should be paid for what he writes (and better paid for what he does, shit, I know we're getting off the subject of Islamic voilence here, but he could be a high flyin gigolo, ha ha)(did ya hear that websex? LOL)

> make their living out of playing with words

That is indeed a surprise. Based on the general level of discourse, I didn't think we had any professional writers around here. Are you a published author? Or a Scrabble player?

> I am too well paid to type words into my computer to give mine to you for free.

I assumed that none of use here were on salary. This will come as a shock to the mods. If you reply to this post, you can send me an invoice.

I see that the answer to my wish for a civil discussion is "no" [paraphrase]. ** Big sigh. ** I don't think it would be ethical to sign up with a new user ID, and it would violate the User Agreement.

But still, do you (or anyone else reading this) believe that the protests are as widespread as the news media implies that they are? The CNN footage of the Iraqis pulling down Saddam's statue not long after the American invasion was impressive, until I saw the unedited version. When the camera's angle widened, it was obvious that there weren't many Iraqis there at all, and in fact the whole event was staged by the U.S. military (the many or all of the participants were paid).

The killings connected with the current kerfuffle are terrible, but bear in mind that nearly 6600 Iraqi civilians died in Iraq in July and August, according to the U.N.