Have you ever been pregnant?
Though, I made a DIFFERENT choice than starfish, I see what she is saying...
It is something, that is REALLY hard to judge until you are there. I am against it. Firmly, but I know the fear that she talks of. Unless your pregnant,(or even a guy facing fatherhood) you CANNOT know this one.
Bob, I see you appriciate it...as much as is possible for your gender.
In reply to:...as much as is possible for your gender. I don't know if I should be offended or turned on!
Neither babes! I think men have a harder time when it comes to "walking in the shoes" but you got a taste of the worry...It is refreshing I suppose.
ok i understand what she says just forgot how to say it, but if its about understanding the fear and confusion and such that one would be lead to believe comes from an unplanned pregnancy would they be of sound mind to make a decision to abort? or would it be possible that decision was a product of theyre fear? i know i know im just rambling
I am curious to know; of the people here who assert any particular position (and this obviously wouldn’t include men!) on the issue of abortion, one way or the other, how many of you have actually been pregnant? "to everyone on here argueing. i think this was the question to be answered on here. not an arguement about race or anything like that. i mean, it was just a simple question for people to answer, and yet again there is another cat fight or w.e the hell you wanna call it about race. geez...between this and about if masterbation is a sin or not,its getting a little repetitive....yeah im probably gonna be bitched at now for saying what i think .... backs away slowly
Some times it is a product of fear. And many years of regret. Sometimes, the best decision you could have made. I don't necesarally judge, but I know how I would reccomend..
I just think the law should step out of the way and let people decide on their own. I'm not sure what you can do about anti-abortion protesters, at least where freedom of speech is protected by law, but certainly not at the front doors of family-planning / abortion (depending on your ideology) clinics, and terrorist acts should certainly not be tolerated.I classify the agressive abotion protesters along with the people who wave placards and yell at the funerals of soldiers killed in Iraq (no, they're not left-wing anti-war people) and the common cold. They're irritants about which there's not much you can do.I'm not saying that everyone should go out and have an abortion.
In reply to: I'm not saying that everyone should go out and have an abortion. No, but I am:Everyone should go out and have an abortion. Right now! If we all go to the same clinic then we can count it as our A2A get-together!
Right is right and wrong is wrong...whether or not you've had the experience you talk about. Here's where the difference between the act (the abortion itself) and the person comes in. Abortion is wrong...certainly as a method of birth-control. But this does not mean we should have open-season on those who have had one for that reason. I think it's the judging of the person rather than the abortion itself that's got you angry. Some people wrongly judge the person on the issue...that's on them, not you. Knowing what is right to do does not always mean we'll do it...none of us is perfect, and we can all be expected to make mistakes, especially in what appears to be a no-win situation. I think the real lesson to be learned here is to practice safe-sex and, because there is no contraception that is 100% effective, choose wisely our sex-partners...they shouldn't be irresponsible jerks, in spite of how much we might be attracted to such kinds of people.For the record, my first pregnancy was with a girl I eventually married...she decided, all on her own, to get the abortion. Without consulting me. I think that sucks...it's something I'll carry with me all my life. I always want to know who that person was that will never be born now. My second is my wife who's expecting come July 12 next year.
In reply to:
Abortion is wrong...certainly as a method of birth-control.
Yes, as a form of birth-control when no other contraception was used, abortion is wrong. But I don't find abortion, as a whole, to be wrong. (And I'm not talking about for medical reasons, because I wouldn't believe that anybody would object to the ending of a pregnancy if there was a great risk to the health of the mother.) If precautions are taken, birth-control used and partner selected wisely, things can still go wrong. A child born into the world without the means to take care of it or even a family to keep it is awful and sometimes giving up the child for adoption is an horrendous ordeal for the mother. Sometimes an abortion is the wisest option.
But its not a decision to take lightly as many do. And consideration of the father is an important part of it, a part that was sadly ignored in your experience Thor. But not everyone considers marriage when they enter into a sexual relationship. For many people, including myself, sex is an important stage of a relationship but not the final one.
I don't judge SOMEONE for having an abortion. Like I said, I was there, and it was part of what I had to consider. I chose not to.
Someone who can actually do it, must feel really pressed against a wall and truely feel that they have no other option. It must be a horrible experience. I would never be out holding up signs or blocking anyone from doing it. I would simply counsel in my beleif if a friend (or my daughter) came to me with the "what do I do now" question. But I would also be there for them what ever their decision. If they chose to have the child, I would feel obligated to help in any way I could, or if they addopted it out, again I would have to be there there is alot of responsibility that goes with both those options. As far as abortion. It seems pretty final to me...I don't know what help could be offered, besides understanding how pressed they must have been to do it.
I always want to know who that person was that will never be born now.If you're both fertile, she could have been pregnant every year. Those children who could have been born but were never even conceived are just as big a mystery. In fact, you could produce countless offspring, clones of yourself, with scrapings from your cheek, given current (or soon-to-be-available) technology. Those unborn people are a mystery as well.As you well realize, a baby doesn't pop out with the characteristics of an adult. You have to raise a child. There are many children who need a home, who you could adopt, if you're that curious about human potential.
