The Ten Commandments as in the Book of Exodus

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Originally Posted By: sdp

Originally Posted By: websexinfo

I honestly don't think man could trully write down the things he or she can and can't do...

Then I guess we should throw out ever law that was ever written. They are just recommendations?

Well, laws don't stop people from doing things. A person can still do something even if its against the law. Laws state what people shouldn't do because if caught, there will be consequences.

Quote:Then I guess we should throw out ever law that was ever written. They are just recommendations?In the developed society we live in today, it is necessary to have law.If someone is sent to the electric chair for killing someone without knowing the whole story or anything about that person, then that's black and white.You could say they're recommendations. For example,"I recommend that you don't kill that man for no reason, otherwise you'll go to prison for (x amount) of years."ANYWAY, the point I was trying to make is no one really knows what we should and should not do in life.Edit: no PERSON really knows what we should and should not do in life.I think that's a little more appropriate.

@ Dantek: Exactly.

> Then I guess we should throw out ever law that was ever written. They are just recommendations?

The shelf holding the statute books would have to be infinitely long. The Ten Commandments tries to define the things that someone many thousands of years ago considered a foundation for civilization. Insulting your neighbor's goat, for instance, might be wrong, but....

The problem with the Ten Commandments was cited by websex[andphilosophy]info: that they are very black-and-white. It's important to honor your father and mother, but what if your parents have abused you all your life?

The Ten Commandments are really no different. Thou shalt not kill... it's a rule/law/recommendation... you can still do it but you might go to hell.

Within the scriptures, there are punishments for lots of infractions that go way beyond what's outlined in the Ten Commandments. Some of them involve getting crushed by big rocks.

But it's cool to be a Christian....no matter what you do, you can be redeemed at the last moment. But if you die suddenly, you're kind of screwed.

Commandments... rules... law... recommendations... call it what you will.

TMI

TMI might stand for Too Much Info, I dunno. But if you try to say it as a word, you sound like Timmy, the retarded kid from South Park.

LOL

TMI = tickle my intestineSorry, I don't want to tickle your intestine, even if there's not a commandment against it.

i hate it when people find out im Christian and think they can ask me any question in the world and i HAVE to answer them the truth, -cause they know i dont believe in lying. to answer your question pinkranger, -you dont have to say anything. you dont have to answer

just for trivia it might be interesting to note that apparently the same word for murder is hate in ancient Hebrew

websexinfo, the rest of the bible illustrates that the ten commandments are to show your incompleteness and helplessness to the sinful nature of man. its meant to bring the contrast between you and Christ. the ten commandments are meant to point you to God and draw you in. its not buddist equivalent of a way of life

I'm not sure how a list of do's and dont's draws one to God, but each to his own.

The versions of the commandments in Exodus 20 and Deuteronomy 5 are not quite identical, are they? In fact, the Hebrew, Catholic, and Protestant versions of the Ten Commandments are all different.

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13. Thou shalt not kill.

What does this personally men to you?

um... don't kill lol

Human life is sacred and I can't think of anything else on earth that can match it's value. Not land, money, fame, pleasure nothing. Like when I look back at these wars in history or revolutions. French Revolution was a complete waste of human life. People were out of control. Sure they were fed up but still. Same with wars that are just for moving in on other territories just to gain land. Would you really wipe out hundreds of men just to gain some land? That's pathetic. But I would definately say it's necessary for freedom and self-defense. If someone is invading your space or being a threat then I guess you have to handle it in the best way possible. Like most civil wars.

But people shouldn't go gun crazy like NEW YORK COPS. ughh...

But I would definately say it's necessary for freedomThe French Revolution folks claim to have been fighting for liberty, equality, and brotherhood. Under a king or queen (i.e., a dictator, but even worse, one who thinks God put him in that position), it was hard to obtain those things. Unfortunately people went a bit nuts, but at least they put themselves on the road to democracy.

Quote:websexinfo, the rest of the bible illustrates that the ten commandments are to show your incompleteness and helplessness to the sinful nature of man. its meant to bring the contrast between you and Christ. the ten commandments are meant to point you to God and draw you inI happen to think that the nature of man is good. Does this make me wrong already?Consider this, the ten commandments were given unto Moses and can be found in the Qur'an, the Old Testament, and was before Jesus Christ.If we were created in God's image, why would God make Jesus a means of comparison?

I happen to think that the nature of man is good. Does this make me wrong already?The Christian view is that man is corrupted and sinful...something to do with original sin.I don't think the nature of man is "good" or "bad", any more than then nature of a molecule or a llama is "good" or "bad". Anyone born with an average brain can be molded in many different ways and almost everyone (or everyone) is capable of the most hideous imaginable cruelty.People who are actors in genocidal cultures weren't born any differently than anyone else.

I am not religious and am not going to get into any sort of debate reading into it anymore.However the Ten Commandments are just moral guidelines which can't be bad. If all people followed them then the world would probably be a better place.I just tend to only follow one of the Eleven Commandments."Thou shalt not get caught."Can't be wrong there.Mr. Nuts

I understand your point.

Is state endorsed execution murder in the following cases?USA and its capital punishment policySaddams Iraq and its capital punishment policyHitlers Germany and its capital punishment policy

The problem with those scenarios is that they focus on whether punishment at all in particular cases is proper, rather than on the specifics of whether capital punishment is proper.What if one country puts to death a person for blowing up an airplane and killing a hundred people, versus another country that puts someone to death for publishing unpopular political ideas?And just because one country does a particular thing, it doesn't mean that it's wrong, no matter how evil the leadership. If Hitler drank water, it doesn't mean that drinking water is bad. Likewise, if Mother Theresa's clinics didn't use sterile practices to keep from spreading disease, that doesn't mean that it's OK not to use sterile practices.