Have you heard of this?

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Have you guys heard and read about this?http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_2167.shtml

ARRRRGGG! Racisim makes me want to punch a baby! ARGGG its so inFUCKINGfuriating!

If you look at the speech from an objective point of view, it's less about racism as it is about pure psychological domination. The man knew what he was saying (albeit, it is a VERY horrendous thing to do). It's the same path as "one can't deny Hitler was a Genius" There are Evil Geniuses. Don't get me wrong, it's a horrible thing that he pushed, but objectively, he was quite well researched.

Originally Posted By: A.W.James Lynch ideals on slavery were too strict. Also. I found it to be both disturbing and scary as well. HUGE understatement. I wish somebody would have lynched his ugly jackbutt and make it 100000000x worse than he made it for his victims. THAT is pure evil.

actually Hitler was a genious, and a incredible leader.Everyone is willing to talk shit on him, and inthe end he was a fucked up asshole who oozed evil, but hes never given the credit for strategy, for uniting a country in to one of the most powerful machines in history, for any of what he did.yeah he was a bastard, yes the world is better with him out of it, but he still was brilliant, and a fucking incredible leader.

about the good you think he did. You're making a stretch here. He NEVER saidf anything to the effect of doing "good". He said he was an incredible leader. Don't put words in his mouth.

Who the fuck cares if he was a great leader? Ike Turner was a great band leader too, but his actions overshadowed his success. I don't give a fuck that Hitler was a great leader, artist, art connoisseur or a fantastic husband, really, who ever brings that shit up is just looking for reasons to defend this prick. Why bring up this asshole? Because there are assholes alive today who would praise him in a minute. Throat slash

Originally Posted By: sdp [i] He said he was an incredible leader. Don't put words in his mouth. I would die a happy man if I never heard one more comment defending Hitler or his fans, but there are so many GODDAMN Hitler lovers out there. Here's the proof.

The "Willie Lynch" speech is fake and was written in 1993. See http://www.manuampim.com/lynch_hoax1.html

Settle down dude.. The Germans had 100 Serbs (my ethnicity) publicly hung for every German killed in occupied territory. My mom was strafed by a German soldier when she was trying to get home. The bullets flew over her head as the fence she was hiding behind was splintered. She watched her cousin die when a German Stuka straffed a country village and a bullet went through him and the tree he was hiding behind. I've had other family members captured and imprisoned. Luckily there were no other deaths in the family... So I have no love of Hitler and the Nazi movement.The facts are facts.. he was able to rally an entire nation to his cause even if he was a demagogue.. so don't give me this crap about proof of being a Hilter lover or call me a fan just becasue I confirmed a fact. Take your blinders off before you go into a fucking frenzy.

It's not defense, it's objective reasoning. He was a genius. An evil, murderous genius. Stating a fact isn't defense, it's simply a fact. He was a brilliant economical practitioner and highly charismatic leader. Obviously I don't support him, but that doesn't mean you can simply dismiss the truth. He was a genius, and he also deserved to die a worse death than his pathetic little suicide. If only the Russians had got to him

"...he also deserved to die a worse death than his pathetic little suicide. If only the Russians had got to him"I think, I disagree with that. I think the pinnacle of humanities dignity was the the Nuremberg trials. We set out to show that humanity could never be extinguished even in the face of the inhumane, that principled law and reason could triumph in the face of cruel canon and ignorant prejudice. We showed that we possessed the benevolent magnanimity that those we tried lacked. We showed we were better than they and their kind by staying the sword of vengeance and letting justice set the margins and in so doing exercise the betterment of ourselves.I think maybe the Nuremberg trails where the crowning achievement of a gracious society.

so who was the retarded jackbutt evil enough to write the sick piece of crap?sorry, I still have unwanted images in my head

_WHO WROTE THE LYNCH SPEECH?

It is clear that the "Willie Lynch Speech" is a late 20th century invention because of the numerous reasons outlined in this essay. I would advance that the likely candidate for such a superficial speech is an African American male in the 20s-30s age range, who probably minored in Black Studies in college. He had a limited knowledge of 18th century America, but unfortunately he fooled many uncritical Black people.

Some people argue that it doesn't matter if the speech is fact or fiction, because white people did use tactics to divide us. Of course tactics were used but what advocates of this argument don't understand is that African people will not solve our problems and address the real issues confronting us by adopting half-baked urban myths. If there are people who know that the Lynch speech is fictional, yet continue to promote it in order to "wake us up," then we should be very suspicious of these people, who lack integrity and will openly violate trust and willingly lie to our community.

Even if the Willie Lynch mythology were true, the speech is focused on what white slaveholders were doing, and there is no plan, program, or any agenda items for Black people to implement. It is ludicrous to give god-like powers to one white man who allegedly gave a single speech almost 300 years ago, and claim that this is the main reason why Black people have problems among ourselves today! Unfortunately, too often Black people would rather believe a simple and convenient myth, rather than spend the time studying and understanding a situation. Too many of our people want a one-page, simplified Ripley's Believe It or Not explanation of "what happened."_

Copied from Ineligible's link.

Originally Posted By: sdp about the good you think he did. You're making a stretch here. He NEVER saidf anything to the effect of doing "good". He said he was an incredible leader. Don't put words in his mouth. He was was on par with Stalin. Both excelled as leaders by murdering all their opposition and more of their own people than their enemies ever did in war. Most of Hitler's success as a public leader was due to his minister of propaganda, Goebbels. As a military leader, Hitler was terrible. If his generals had let him do what he wanted, the war would have been over much quicker than it was. If his generals had been allowed to do everything they wanted, the story might have ended much differently. The possibility existed that Germany may have developed the A-bomb before us...and with their V-2 rockets to carry them (something the US didn't have), Germany quite possibly could have conquered the world.

by murdering all their opposition and more of their own people than their enemies ever did in war. Stalin yes....but Hitler killed more of his opposition than were killed during the war? Hmmmm... you got those numbers, where?

actually Id never defend the piece of shit, but I will say that there is alot that can be learned, especially strategy wise (military) from hitler. BTW I do love the Ike Turner reference, I will be stealing that and adding it to my list of shit to say in random conversations.Hitler showed how easy it is to create a movement and even if its 100% wrong gather up the people to support it and let it roll over society.Id never defend him, and Im no fan, the fact remains however that he had alot of shit in his head that can be learned from and used still today.The jews, the gays, the murders, the witch craft and sacret relics and shti he was into are all one thing, but you cant deny he got shit done.A fucking madman, but he found ways to misdirect and still inspire the people of germany, at the time he was MOSTLY loved by the people, even though they had little and sometimes no idea what he was really doing.

Dont misread what I wrote, I never said he did any good, he was bastard, he made the world a shittier place for everyone to live in, Im no fan of hitler or his methods, I simply stated he was an incredible leader, charisma and intelligence. He was a fuck up, the man embodied pure evil.

"Most of Hitler's success as a public leader was due to his minister of propaganda, Goebbels."No not really. Hitlers success was do in most part to his ability to instill national pride back in the German people who were cowed and crushed after the first world war. The populace was so economically impoverished and so bereft of national spirit that they were ripe picking for his style of speaking and his message of the greatness of the "German." The conviction of his character gave a people with noting else something to believe in. Beyond that, Hitlers success in snubbing the Treaty of Versailles and, in large part, thereby getting money and jobs back into the hands of average Germans endeared him to the people, even to those who didn't agree with his antisemitic views.Hitler wrote nearly all of his own speeches and usually the night before they were to be given. At many less formal events his speeches were impromptu. All of this was much to the chagrin of Goebbels, in the function of his office. However, personally Hitler impressed Goebbels even more than most. Hitler was a master in understanding presentation and it's power and he was smart enough to get talented people to carry out his visions, such as Goebbels, and in no small part Spear. Most everything he did was a conscious decision calculated to garner the most loyalty from the people and embolden their German spirit. He often told people that he could never marry because he needed to be seen as available to the German women, so that they could continue their love affair with him. Much like today, were gay actors won't come out of the closet not because they fear reprisal but because it's better for their career to be seen as available to the largest audience.>>>"The possibility existed that Germany may have developed the A-bomb before us...and with their V-2 rockets to carry them (something the US didn't have), Germany quite possibly could have conquered the world."Though it wasn't know at the time, this became impractical and Germanys ability was greatly hampered with the expulsion of many scientist, deemed not German enough or Jewish, in the early thirties. By the time the German "wonder weapons" had come to fruition the war had long been lost and Germany couldn't produce or make substantial use of any of it's innovations, regardless of who was running the war.As a matter of fact, the war was lost long before it was over. There is speculation in some books that when the "final solution" was put into practice Germany had no choice but to fight to it's own death. Somewhere, (I can't remember in which book) Hitler was attributed with saying that "...as we embark on this road there will only be two option to the fatherland, complete victory or complete destruction." That's a paraphrase. Given that the war had been going on for some time many think that the "this" he was referring to was the systematic extermination of the Jewish people, something that didn't take place till later in the war. Whether he was or not, I can only guess but it seems to me that is what he was referring to given other things I have read. The reason many believe the war drug on so long was because the things Germany had done closed the door to any form of surrender.

"... the witch craft and sacret relics and shti he was into are all one thing, but you cant deny he got shit done."Hitler wasn't into that shit. That was Himmler. In private Hitler found it to be an embarrassment and often made fun of Himmler for his relic and "German" quests. Hitler thought that what Himmler was doing was running counter to most everything the Nazi party stood for and everything he had worked to achieve. For whatever reason, that no one knows, he lacked the ability or the will to rein in Himmler.