Friend zone

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whats the best way to avoid the friend zone? ive been there before and it aint pleasant. but im not great at avoiding it. i dont know the best amount of time to know a girl before you make the move. its complicated really.

theres nothing wrong with being a girls friend, but what if you have feelings for her?

Then ask her out.

i dont get what ive implied here...my question simply wasRHETORICALLY- you meet a new girl right? but it isnt appropriate to ask her out at the time for whatever reason, so you think youll wait until it is appropriate. my question is, while getting to know said girl a little better before asking her out, how do you avoid the friend zone?to be honest i was confused when i posted this. it happens but its been a really emotional time for me lately. please forgive stupid shit like this, wont happen again.

There is no definate way to avoid the friend zone unless you dive directly in at the deep end and ask her out straight away. Otherwise there will always be a chance that you will end up in the friend zone.There are things you can do to help, like letting her know that you are a sexual person. Make raunchy jokes, compliment her waps, say she has nice legs - BUT BE CAREFUL. Too much of this puts you on the total other end of the spectrum as a possible girlfriend for her! You could end up discussing fashion tips with her.Otherwise it's just the age old advice of "be a bit of a dickhead to her" so that she doesn't think you're all wonderful. Give her a rough edge to work on, that way she wont have you making daisy chains and learning knitting patterns etc.

I've gotten pretty good at avoiding the friend zone. When I meet a girl, I do one of two things. I either make it obvious that I'm interested in her romatically or I don't pay much attention to her. Either way, somehow I fall on the dating ladder. In the past, I would always approach in a very friendly way. Keyword of friendly is friend. In many of the observations I have made, this is a common mistake that "nice guys" make.

You should be comfortable with who you are. If you have an opinion then stick to it unless someone brings up a good point that changes your perspective. When one tries to be nice, it is because they have lost genuine kindness. Are you going to try to impress her by lavishing her with gifts, being overly nice, and agreeing with everything she says? My point is if you're being fake (even if it's a nice kind of fake) and not being who you naturally are then people generally know it, even if it is knowing through their subconscious. Generally speaking, people don't want a lasting relationship with someone that is fake.

Quote:Otherwise it's just the age old advice of "be a bit of a dickhead to her" so that she doesn't think you're all wonderful. Hmmm... I have found this to be true among many girls. Women seem to usually be a different story. I usually use age 25 as the distinguishing age between women and girls... but it really just depends on maturity level.

I dont get why people are afraid of becoming frields with girls.Can somone explain this to me?

I had a guy friend tell me that guys don't really have attractive friends because they will always want to have sex with them.Go figure.

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I dont get why people are afraid of becoming frields with girls. Can somone explain this to me?

I had a lot of lady friends... until I fell for my best friend and she "coudln't" feel the same way about me. So, now I just prefer to only date girls that I'm interested in. I actally have 2 friends that are girls. One is married and I'm not interested in her sexually. The other I am interested in sexually but I know our personalities wouldn't mesh well at all.

There are a lot of guys out there who have been burned by being friends with girls. Therefore, it may seem that many guys are afraid of having a friendship with them.

The ladder theory is a way of explaining it.

Quote:I actally have 2 friends that are girls im your third

If distance were not an issue... we wouldn't be "just friends".

see, not paying attention, sounds practical but i cant do that too good. how do you not pay attention to a girl? doesnt that say im not interested, leave me alone?-ak

rawr damn distance!!! still heart you tho

see, another thing to add would be that i think in agendas. i see my hot female friends and think, damn, id like to get with her one day. then i think if we get too close shell just be like 'no, i couldnt go out with him we're too close' and i hate that feeling.

Trying to work out the future possibilities, like you might in chess, doesn't work in real life. It's too complicated, and usually what happens is something completely surprising.

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how do you not pay attention to a girl? doesnt that say im not interested, leave me alone?

You're right.

What I actually said was "I don't pay much attention to her". That doesn't mean ignore her or don't pay any attention. This generally only works for certain kinds of girls. The girls that are used to guys drooling all over them and giving them plenty of attention are the ones that seem to bite the "I'm relaxed, your kind of boring, so what's going on over there" type of attitude.

Visualize yourself with a group of people, a few girls a few guys. One particular girl seems to be the girl that gets all the attention because she's very physically attractive. Listen and chime in when you have an opinion or something of substance to say or add to the conversation. Maybe even pay attention to one of the other girls of the group instead of her. The point is to set yourself out as being different from all the rest. If she sees you as any other guy then she thinks your nothing special and you get dismissed.

Here's an example. My mom and dad met at a ball... yes, a ball where people dance etc. My dad approached my mom, introduced himself, talked for about a minute and then walked away. After a little bit of time he would come back to her, talk a little bit more, and then leave again. He did this again for the third time. On the fourth time, they got into interesting conversation and he stuck around. Weird? I guess he set himself up as being different than the rest. Different in a good way.

You can never control what's going to happen, but it sure does help if you have some ideas before you jump into a situation.

lol. Maybe one day we will meet and it will be the right timing. I can only hope. :wink:

rawr :eyes:

we'll see hey :wink:

helms- it is actually IMPOSSIBLE to be "just friends" with a girl that is at least a bit attractive. you'll always have to voice in the back of ur head that says u should fvck her...this is a fact of the male species.

and to stay outta the friend zone follow these steps:

1. NEVER give her too much attention, like sex for girls, it is ur only currency.

2. DO NOT care too much about her feelings. If she starts whining about something and starts crying to you, say that you understand and WALK THE FVCK AWAY!!! this is a road straight to the friend zone.

3. Flirt with all the girls around you when you are with her, and AGAIN, never give her to much attention, this puts her on a pedestal.

4. Touch her briefly when you are talking, this tells her that you are sexual and basically skips all the BS that talking does.

5. and basically BE AMAZING! :smile: