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Celebrate Terrorism!
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Who is he?i read the article...just never heard of him before?
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Paul Hill - An anti-abortion activist and a terrorist connected to the Army of God, who was convicted of the murders of physician John Britton and his clinic escort, James Barrett, outside a Pensacola, Florida abortion clinic on July 29, 1994. In addition to the two murders, Hill seriously wounded Barrett's wife. Sentenced to the death penalty under Florida law, Hill died by lethal injection, making him the first person to be executed in the U.S. for killing an abortion provider, though several others were imprisoned on similar charges at the time.
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Eh..... On some levels I think calling this terrorism goes too far.
Unjust? certainly. Wrong? absolutely! terrorism?... I hesitate to call it that.
I think if anything.. it hurts those who are against abortion...
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Why would you hesitate? Terrorism is the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce. Hill used his violence, and created the threat of more violence, to stop abortions. He was, by definition, a terrorist.
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I think its because I live in a different world with my head up my ass >.<
But, I define terrorism as more of a "we are going to skin your children alive, poor salt on their testicles and eyes.. and then send them back to you for their dying breathes"
I view murder/violence as the intent to kill and hurt in general.
I view terrorism as torture use of deceptive means to hurt.
Erm. The best way to explain it I guess.. Is that since the beginning of time people have been willing to die to kill others. Me going out.. and risking my own life for my beliefs and what I believe in is one thing.
While on the other terrorism is aiming at people who can't fight back.. More torture type stuff.
Would I say what was done is wrong? absolutely. On every level..
however, I also have to point out the doctor had a body gaurd. He knew the risk. The body gaurd knew if he was being hired there was most likely a reason for it.
Would I say this celebrates wrongful murder? yes. Would I say this celebrates hipocrisy? yep. Terrorism? no...
I am not promoting murder but, I do believe this can be looked at from both sides.
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It is being looked at from both sides, and one of the sides is celebrating this man's actions. And not by evil, blood sucking Muslims who hate everyone, its being celebrated by good, wholesome American Christians.
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I am not saying christians are wholesome. Infact I can't stand a large majority of them. (despite me being one)All I am saying is that this man knew the risk of his actions. The doctor knew the risk of his actions.(this is apparent because he had a body gaurd).I don't approve of the murder in any way shape or form. can't stress that enough. However, As I have said.. both men knew the risk. I have trouble calling a sitaution where everyone going in knows the risk terrorism.If the doctor just totally wasn't expecting it.. or didn't know there was a chance he was going to be murder then.. yes I would call this terrorism. However, he had a body gaurd he knew something was going to happen or at leas tthere was a chance it would.9/11 no one knew or expected there was any chance of getting killed on thier way to work in that mannar.Even in the camps where the muslims were mistreated they didn't expect to be tortured. I would call that terrorism on americas part.However, in the case of this doctor being murdered he knew there was a chance and a good one.Don't get me mistaken.. I am not so narrow minded as to believe christians can do nothing wrong. Christians have done some pretty horrible things.I am in complete agreement that it is total hipocrisy. But, I do think "terrorism" just doesn't suit it.
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But its not just the doctor and the bodyguard who were effected. There was always the chance that any patients there could have been killed, which now goes through the mind of every woman who goes to an abortion clinic in the area. Hill's actions incited terror, that's terrorism.
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i would think it does heres a few definitions from google Quote: Definitions of terrorism on the Web:is defined by the US Department of Defense as "the unlawful use of -- or threatened use of -- force or violence against individuals or property to coerce or intimidate governments or societies, often to achieve political, religious, or ideological objectives."http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/teach/alqaeda/glossary.htmlThe FBI defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives.http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/apps/nl/content2.aspThe systematic use of violence to achieve political ends is not new – among many other examples, it featured during The Troubles in Ireland before its independence in 1922. In recent decades, it has become a common tactic among a wide variety of groups, from independence movements to the secret services of various countries. ...http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/H/history/browse/glossary.htmluse of terror, especially the systematic use of terror by the government or other authority against particular persons or groups; a method of opposing a government internally or externally through the use of terror and from dictionary dot com, Quote: ter·ror·ism /ˈtɛrəˌrɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ter-uh-riz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political purposes. 2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization. 3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government. ter·ror·ism (těr'ə-rĭz'əm) Pronunciation Key n. The unlawful use or threatened use of force or violence by a person or an organized group against people or property with the intention of intimidating or coercing societies or governments, often for ideological or political reasons.so i would consider it terrorism, he used violence and threats of violence in order to acheive his radical religious objectives,emphasis on radical EDIT:damn you bob said the same damn thing only without definitions!
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Well, I'm just great, haven't you heard?
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ah yes sorry, hail to the mighty coconut god, or was that Steve?
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No that was me, he was my bitch.
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oo i see, so god is just "dog" backwards, except thatd make Steve a female dog..so can i be the pistachio god? maybe then i can find some shelled pistachios those shells are a bitch to get off...
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Quote:But its not just the doctor and the bodyguard who were effected. There was always the chance that any patients there could have been killed, which now goes through the mind of every woman who goes to an abortion clinic in the area. Hill's actions incited terror, that's terrorism. Good enough. I can agree with that.
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Originally Posted By: bobaliciousIt is being looked at from both sides, and one of the sides is celebrating this man's actions. And not by evil, blood sucking Muslims who hate everyone, its being celebrated by good, wholesome American Christians. That is such a typical statement on the board of A2A.
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the docs risks because of his actions??the fucking guy is performing legal LEGAL shit at a LEGAL clinic.where does his actions dictate hes doing something that he could be killed for?he has a body guard because of FUCKING TERRORISTS like the other bastard.bobbo has the correct version of a terrorists.its not just muslim extremists that are terorists. and being a muslim doesnt make you an auto terrorists.its the tactics used and yes indeed this prick is a terrorist
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Legal shit is still shit. I'll agree with you on that call. But terrorist? Gimme a break. It's like redefining a homosexual to include those who accidently caught a glimpse of homosexual porn while looking for hetero porn. You're just redefining the word "terrorist" out of a personal agenda. Most folks not out to bend the meaning of the word know that murderers are not automatically terrorists. There are, of course, terrorists that are murderers.
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Who the fuck is redefining?? Dictionary definitions were quoted and all support that the guy was a terrorist!! You are an ignorant, hypocritical fuck if you think that we're just trying to twist things around to suit our apparent agenda!The guy is not just a murderer, he used the murders to incite terror. He had an agenda and it was to stop abortions and he chose not to do it with words. He knew that he could not force his beliefs on others, so he gave people a reason to be afraid of going to an abortion clinic. How is that not terrorism?
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Originally Posted By: bobalicious
You are an ignorant, hypocritical fuck if you think that we're just trying to twist things around to suit our apparent agenda!
Stop terrorizing me. :grin: