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((drama, drama, drama))

this might be a bit long, i'll try to cut the excess typing, but...

i guess this goes under relationships with people i suppose.

okay, about a week and a half ago, i lost my digital camera. i'll use their real first names just to make things easier. i had been hanging out with this guy named cory for a while, he's the gay guy who i went to gay pride with in chicago, which i had posted in an earlier post. i like him because he brings no drama with him, but his other friend who i will mention, is another story...

anyway, cory has this other friend who's the biggeset douche bag and manwhore all in one you could ever meet, gene...he's a lunatic!!!

i mean, he's REALLY good-looking, and looks like someone who would have standards, but he got with this (note: i'm not one to judge people because i'm not the hottest looking thing in the world, and i just don't like to judge, but cory and others agree with me on this when i say i know fugly when i see fugly)

and this fugly bitch (yes, i mean fugly, fat emo looking wannabe slut, i'll admit with tits, who always throws herself at every guy she can and i just laugh at the sidelines...and she has a couple of kids too, like her other friend who's the same as her, but isn't as looney) who, get this, calls herself super bitch (and even has a tatoo of it with like the superman symbol, oh lord...) which i think is hilarious because most people when she leaves the room, calls her a stupid psycho bitch and say they wanna punch her behind her back (even guys who said they'd never hit girls wanna hit this bitch), and she is cuckoo. she talked like she was the boss of me once, and owned whoever she wanted to get with (she asked me who i was with one night, and she said if i was with gene, that gene didn't want me), and i was like okay whatever because i didn't want to deal with her, but earlier before her ugly ass arrived, gene said all sorts of "flirtatious" things.

anyway, the night i lost my digital camera (not something that's like $5 or $10 something i wouldn't care about, a digi cam that was a christmas gift), i asked gene where it was because he was the last one to touch it. he told me to search him and nothing turned up.

the next night, i used to not hang out with cory by myself, but the one night i hang out with cory by myself, gene voluntarily tells cory that he has my digi cam...gene took it all the way to his house, which is about 45 minutes from me in a different city, where i could actually get lost going to if i don't know the way.

well cory and i didn't have the time to go get it because we left for chicago that weekend. so the next night i got back from chicago, a few days ago, i confronted gene again, calling him on the phone saying he'd better not be kidding around and to please have my digi cam because i thought someone i didn't know took it and i had been stressing over this ALL WEEK.

he lied to me once again saying it was his friend's girlfriend's disposable camera. funny how whenever i FINALLY confront people about things, they still lie, but i always find out the truth one way or another...

the last time cory had talked to gene, gene told cory to come to his house whenever and get it for me. so i told cory the bullshit story that gene told me, and he went over there to see what was going on. well gene wasn't home, and he got my digi cam in one piece. i finally picked it up today. then, gene, being the crazy douche bag that he is, threatened cory and told cory how it wasn't right for him to just walk into his house and get it without him being there. and that it's not for cory to take. gene and cory's other friend was home so cory didn't just walk in. but the thing is, the last time gene and cory talked, gene was the one who said that would be okay.

so the worst night ever for me about a week and a half ago, was for nothing. and so were the following days after that. gene had found out i gotten a new digi cam since i thought someone i didn't know took it so he decided he was going to make up more lies to try and keep my old one. but my dad was asking for it back. and i am sooooooooooooooo glad i got it back. Oh my God, this is the 2nd time that I lost my digi cam, and both times, I got it back, people have lied about it.

cory told me he's trying not to hang out with gene anymore and the only real reason he talks to him is because they both have a cell phone plan together which kind of sucks.

ok ok, to get to the point: i know i hang out with cory a lot, like one of gene's really good friends, or at least used to be, i don't know if as much anymore...and i'm sure i'll see gene again sometime. what i'm asking is...how should i react when i see gene again? part of me wants to tell him off (let it all out of me, for everyone who's done exactly what gene has done to me) because i always am too nice to people who throw a pile of dog shit my way FOR NO REASON AT ALL. but the other part of me just wants to ignore him. what should i do?

sorry for this long post and thanks for taking the time to read it if you do.

Wow...First of all, was there a point to the rant about the woman you called a "fugly bitch"? I read that nasty rant like 3 times to TRY to understand it but I was totally lost. And this piece REALLY confused me... Quote:i mean, he's REALLY good-looking, and looks like someone who would have standards, but he got with this (note: i'm not one to judge people because i'm not the hottest looking thing in the world, and i just don't like to judgeA bit of a contradiction, don't ya think? If you don't like to be judged, then again I ask, why did you go on and on about this woman? Who cares what she does, worry about yourself.And the other thing that bothered me was that, for some reason, you actually care about who Gene gets with. Who cares if he's "good looking" to you and gets with a "fugly" woman. Who are you to say such a judgemental thing?Okay, now to this camera fiasco. Again, I tried to read through it a few times and it's my understanding that there was obviously some sort of miscommunication. Whether he lied about the camera or not, I don't know. And then the drama came with he and your other friend Cory got into the argument of going to Gene's home.After all that drama, all I have to say is be greatful that you did get your camera back in one piece. And now that you have it back, my best advice is to forget all this happened. There's not point is dwelling on it. And when you see Gene, just ignore him.If you do say something, you'll just cause more unnecessary drama. You got your camera back, what else do you want? Plus, I'll point out that whether he lied or not, your camera was indeed at HIS house. If it wasn't for him, you've would've never seen that camera again. The least you should do is say thanks.And one last piece of advice: keep your camera with you at all times!

As for the girl though, I definitely know for a fact, that if you ever met her, you'd say the same exact thing as me (because everyone else has disliked her - people who she didn't want to get with or girls who actually respect themselves) even if I said I don't like to judge. She's just one of those people who likes it when she gets to you is all I'm saying. Not only were her looks fugly, but so was her personality, everything about her was fugly. If she doesn't want to get with you, she'll treat you like you're a nobody - like she treats my friend Cory as well as me, and I'm pretty sure it's because he's gay because she was also getting on my case if I knew he was gay or not, with her probably thinking I wanted to hook up with him, when she doesn't know about our good friendship, because obviously she doesn't know us, she just looks at men as people to get with if they're attractive.and if you're another girl "ruining her game," but not knowing you are, she'll try to start something for NO reason, even if you're just there for a good time and not even care about getting with anyone, but if she wants to get in your pants (guy, i dunno if she's bi), she do anything she can to whore herself around. She is one of the worst people I have ever met I can definitely say in my entire life. I'm glad I don't have to see her for another month. Oh, and I don't ever go up to her either, or start talking to her at all...whenever I'm with guy friends that she knows,(these guys are all good-looking, even cory, I'm just saying) she'll come up and start shit with me just because I'm hanging out with them because they're my friends, too, and not whoring myself around like she does. Quote:If you do say something, you'll just cause more unnecessary drama. You got your camera back, what else do you want? Plus, I'll point out that whether he lied or not, your camera was indeed at HIS house. If it wasn't for him, you've would've never seen that camera again. The least you should do is say thanks. This is true. I was very lucky that he was the one that stole it and not someone I did not know. And I have had bad luck with everything else so far I am really, really, really, glad that SOMETHING finally turned out right. Yeah, other people have told me to ignore him, too, but I just don't feel right without any actual closure about this without saying something to him about it, and not just getting my camera back. I dunno if u know what I'm saying is all.

situation update:so i just got off the phone with cory not too long ago.cory told me that gene landed himself in jail last night for telling a police officer to fuck off or something. this morning, another friend of theirs bailed him out.i guess after gene got out of jail, he STILL went over to cory's and harassed him about taking my camera back for me, acting like it is his belonging. i guess being in jail for one night didn't get to him, huh. that is how lunatic this crazy douche bag is.i really feel like sending his ass back to jail again. he wouldn't stop asking cory to give my camera back to him, even after cory told him i got what rightfully belongs to me back. said there was a video and pics gene wanted, but i deleted it all on my memory. i was thinkin' about bein' nice and keepin' it and giving him his video 'n pics, but i'm tired of being the nice girl so i took some action.is it possible, if i wanted to, that i could send gene back to jail? he acts like it's still his camera and still harasses his friend about it. (they've known each other for life, but i don't know if they're that good of friends anymore)

wow that gene guy is a dumbass stay the hell away from him!! but when u do see him again ignore him. until he says something to you. then just go off on him lol

lol yeah gene definitely is nuts and i will for sure stay away, even cory says so all the time. so instead of actually saying anything to him in person, i actully remembered i know his myspace so i sent a message over to his myspace -- i'm just glad i didn't add him at all, i've messaged him a few times before, before it was on friendly terms, but not now. and was just wondering what ya'll thought about it. here it is. ((again, sorry for everything being so long, heh)) but knowing gene, i'm sure i'm gonna have to say something to him in person again, if he decides to start talking to me first.ya, i'll definitely ignore him unless he talks to me first, that sounds good.the only bad thing about myspace is, i don't know if he'll read all of it, but i do know if he will have opened the mail because of the thing that says, "sent, read, unread" next to the message in the sent box. i just don't know if he'll actually read it is all.--------------------------------------so here's my closing thoughts to gene:you can stop asking cory to give you MY digi cam to you, he's already told you a million times he gave it back to me, plus, i deleted everything you wanted anyway. i was thinking about being nice and giving the video and pics u wanted, but NO MORE MISS NICE GIRL!what were ya gonna do when the battery ran out? i have all the shit for the digi cam. guess u were SOL, huh?I GAVE YOU YOUR CELL BACK because i was actually playin' around, UNLIKE you...NOW I WISH I HADN'T JUST SO YOU COULD HAVE GONE THROUGH WHAT YOU PUT ME THROUGH THIS WHOLE ENTIRE WEEK AND A HALF.all i wanted was to take some pics of people i've met and have a little fun, but you put me through one of the worst nights of my life.that digi cam was a gift from my dad, and you can't even buy it in stores anymore, i looked. and just b/c i bought a new digi cam, doesn't mean i gave you the right to keep my old one.not only did i have other shit in my life going on, but you added on to the stress. WHAT'S NOT RIGHT IS THE FACT THAT YOU STOLE, YES STOLE! MY DIGI CAM AND LIED TO ME TWICE ABOUT IT, and still act like it belongs to you. it's funny how whenever i finally confront people myself, they always lie to me thinking i'll never find out, but in the end, i ALWAYS DO!i know i can be a brat at times, yes, i know this, but i'm not being the nice girl anymore.first of all, i asked you at rum runner's...where the hell is my camera, this isn't funny. you told me to search you, i found nothing, yet it still befuddles me how you ended up with it. i saw you set it down, and then it just disappeared. but now i am thankful that it was someone i know, namely you, that stole it and i got it back, and NOT someone i didn't know.there's just no point for you to ask cory about MY DIGITAL CAMERA anymore.oh and you can tell ur friend, fuck buddy, whatever the hell she is, the girl that calls herself super bitch, to stop asking me who i'm with, as well as yourself. i'm with whoever i want to be with and all i'm there for is to have a good time.did you know she came up to me and asked me who i was there with that last night? and she said if it was you, "gene don't want you, hunny." i don't care if you don't want me, i can do so much better anyway. she can own you all she wants to.have a great life and see you 'round i'm sure.

good job. hell probably end up back in jail anyway haha

yea, gene is as psycho as the fugly stupid bitch who thought she could talk down to me like that about gene. even after one night in jail for ill mannerisms toward a cop, he still did not think of the fact that he stole my camera so i hope he goes back to jail again.when cory told me that gene went to jail, i was like, well hey, there's another compensation for stealin my cam, not only did i delete his pics but he went to jail for somethin else too! unfortunately he didn't learn but as long as he doesn't mess with my stuff again, i'll be happy.

i didn't think he would respond to my message, but he did and i was surprised to see a new message in my inbox, but it wasn't anything special. and this is what the lunatic wrote back. and i replied...so now i'm thinking that psycho bitch is gonna wanna kick my ass the next time she sees me, but the funny thing is, i had no problem with her before, she just saw me keep on hanging out with guy friends she knew, too. and she decided to start shit probably cuz she thought i was "taking over" or something. but whatever. i really would like to know what they would do to me the next time they see me. i wrote the response in fury, so i dunno...how do ya think this'll turn out?----------------- Original Message -----------------From: geneDate: Jul 3, 2007 5:44 PMfuck off psycho have cory give the camera back to super bitch that he stole. we dont like u so stop talkn ::my response to gene::i don't care if you don't like me. i don't like you either.ah, ok. u can stop treatin' cory like shit cuz he didn't do anything wrong. let me refresh ur fuckin' memory and remind you that you and your nasty, fugly, ass psycho bitch friend stole my expensive shit. and the last time you actually talked to cory, u said it was okay for him to walk in your house and get it. but once i asked you again when he didn't know i did, you lied again, and pinned it on cory. umm the night after u stole it u told cory u had my camera and i could get it that night, i just didn't have time.ya okay, i'm the psycho rolls eyes you're the nut case ((and ya, u are)) lying to everyone, along with super bitch thinking she's hot shit, thinking she can treat anyone she pleases like shit ((u can tell her i said she isn't hot shit, needs a reality check, and i can hang out with whoever i please who enjoys my company and i don't care if you don't, she doesn't own every man there, JUST YOU, hun)), you're both actually pretty fugly, personality wise too, i guess they always stick together.good luck with THAT, lmao.um, ya, it's not her camera either, like cory said he gave it back to me. it's mine you thieves -- and u kno i could have reported you guys to the police, but i'm done dealing with you after this. if you got the camera from her, she stole it from me. good bye nutso.

Oh geez,Honey, what did I tell you in my last post? If you say or do something with this person, you'll just cause more unnecessary drama. And now its transformed into something really ugly for something as silly as a camera.What I don't understand is why didn't you just dropped it when you got your camera back. Who cares if he's being pissy about it or lied. Just move on with your life. You can easily avoid all this by simply removing this person from you life by cutting off all contact. And that includes the stupid myspace.I also don't understand why you bothered bringing your myspace drama here. What do you want to prove? If you don't like this person, you could have simply deleted the message and not responded. All this drama is not worth it.I have no idea what's going to happen next except for more bitchy messages and such. So, just bail out now and let this die. Cut off all contact with this person and just be happy that you have your camera and move on.

lol yeah, I was going to ignore him when you told me to, but every time I talk to Cory about whatever or whenever we call each other and hang out, Cory always tells me that gene still asks for "his" digi cam back, and still says cory wasn't right to take it, when he was right in every way to take it back. cory told me that gene is one of the biggest thieves around. and i was just tired of hearing about gene treatin' cory like shit for no reason, and still asking him for the cam back to this day. and every time when gene would ask that, cory would always tell him he gave it back to me.i just thought i'd send that message to him to stop harassing cory about my camera and to stop treating him like shit. i know cory can back himself up, actually he just ignores gene, too, which yeah, i probably should have done, but i was just fed up with gene and him still harassing cory about my camera non stop.so i thought, if i said straight to him to stop asking cory about my camera, maybe he would do so. i guess i didn't know gene would still be a looney even when everyone has told him it is mine and he is not getting it back is all i'm saying.sigh...i don't know what i'm trying to prove with these myspace messages, heh. just venting a lil....err...a lot sorry. this has been goin' on for a while and it's been getting on my nerves quite a bit is all, and gene's still all about it. i don't know when he'll get over it. i mean, i would get over it even tho i did get my cam back, if he'd just stop harassing cory about my camera and saying cory stole from him, when cory didn't do anything at all.

Originally Posted By: indygirllol yeah, I was going to ignore him when you told me to, but every time I talk to Cory about whatever or whenever we call each other and hang out, Cory always tells me that gene still asks for "his" digi cam back, and still says cory wasn't right to take it, when he was right in every way to take it back. cory told me that gene is one of the biggest thieves around. and i was just tired of hearing about gene treatin' cory like shit for no reason, and still asking him for the cam back to this day. and every time when gene would ask that, cory would always tell him he gave it back to me.From what you said, I'm sure that your friend Cory understands that this Gene person is being toxic in your friendship with him. I'm sure he's getting annoyed by what Gene is doing as well. Have you guys talked about the possiblity of dropping this guy from your lives and find better friends? I don't know how long these guys been friends but when someone is being toxic like this, it isn't worth having it in both your lives. It's also kind of unfair because now you and Cory can't enjoy your time with each other without mentioning this guy and his problems.

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Have you guys talked about the possiblity of dropping this guy from your lives and find better friends?

Yeah, we have. Cory's told me that he's trying less and less to hang out with Gene. He also said that he would probably have all together stopped talking to gene, but it is still because of having a cell phone plan together that he keeps in contact with him, which kinda blows because Gene can turn off Cory's phone whenever he wants to, and it's been done before.

I told cory to start lookin' for a new person to share a plan with, lol.

I think they are childhood friends, probably lived in the same neighborhood or something. They both went to the same high school, but I don't know how they knew each other because Cory's actually like 6 years older than Gene. So it was probably livin' in the same neighborhood.

I was definitely glad that just because they both used to or still kind of do hang out with each other a lot, Gene's bad ways did not rub off on Cory.

I kind of feel bad if Gene & Cory's friendship is becoming less and less because of me and I wonder if Cory would still tolerate Gene if it weren't for the digi cam situation. But from what Cory's told me, Gene's been a lunatic all his life so I guess this current situation persuaded Cory more to stop talking to Gene. I dunno. :confused:

Originally Posted By: indygirlYeah, we have. Cory's told me that he's trying less and less to hang out with Gene. He also said that he would probably have all together stopped talking to gene, but it is still because of having a cell phone plan together that he keeps in contact with him, which kinda blows because Gene can turn off Cory's phone whenever he wants to, and it's been done before.I told cory to start lookin' for a new person to share a plan with, lol.Lol, that's what I was just thinking. But anyway, if he has talked about dropping this dude, then you guys should start doing so. Unless Gene can prove himself worthy of your guys' friendship (which seems bad right now), I think it's time to give this drama queen the boot.I guess time will tell what's going to happen next but if this guy doesn't change his attitude, then he isn't worth your time.But don't feel bad. For some reason, Gene decided to harass your friend and send you nasty messages and he doesn't have the right to do that. Maybe Gene will realize what he's doing now later down the road, and he and Cory can be friends again. But right now, he needs to be on his own to chill out.

Yeah, I hope they don't hang out anymore. Gene's just a bad apple. I also sent him one last message, and I told him it would be last time I ever messaged/talked to him again and that he won't have to look for any more messages from me, I promised.

This is the last thing I sent him and I'm never talking to him again even if he messages back. Unless I hear Cory tell me he's still bothering him about it, I'm not gonna pay Gene anymore attention. I'll just have to get the authorities involved.

I can't believe this douche told Cory's parents that Cory stole from him when he did say it was okay to get it back for me. Ya, I set it straight with Cory's parents.

Thanks for talking with me about this. I'm not sure how he'll take this last message. lol.

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yeah, thieves don't go far in life...i hope you've read my other two messages, don't worry this will be my last words to you, I PROMISE!

honestly, u call me the psycho? Bitch, please.

like i have said before. i do not give a flying fuck if you and your FUGLY bitch friend don't like me. i actually feel sorry for the people who actually continue to put up with you and your lying and stealing ways.

what i DO give a fuck about is the fact that you attempted to steal my digi cam twice and still claim it as hers or yours even after what i have told u. u can tell her and urself to back the fuck off my bubble, too. i can hang out with whoever i want. she or you don't like it? she can leave or find another guy to whore herself with, same goes for you, girl-wise.

GET THIS THROUGH THAT THICK STEALIN' BRAIN OF YOURS THAT YOU ARE NOT GETTING MY DIGI CAM BACK, what rightfully belongs to me, UNLESS I HAPPEN TO BE AROUND YOU FOR SOME ODD REASON AND YOU TRY TO STEAL IT AGAIN!

Get the fuck over the fact that Cory took it back for me and stop bugging him about it. And it is DEFINITELY not right the way you have been treating Cory about this whole situation. I don't know how many times I've had to tell you that Cory did nothing wrong.

Even his parents told me that you told them Cory took a camera. Oh yeah, I told them you STOLE mine which is the truth. and i'm trying so hard not to get other authorities involved, but if you and fugly bitch think you're getting MY digi cam back...you're not.

why don't you try and find someone else's property to steal because u'd rather not use ur own money to buy ur own shit? i heard u're good at that. but judging at ur attempts to steal my shit, i don't know if u were actually successful in keeping things you've stolen from other people. i'm sure you could be, though. i'm just not gonna risk it again. i'll just have sympathy for the next person's belongings u steal and they never see it again.

I WAS JUST LUCKY ENOUGH TO GET IT BACK BEFORE YOU SOLD IT OR SOME OTHER SHIT. I definitely wouldn't have put it past you.

~*I hope you live a happy life of stealing other people's shit.*~

oh yeah, and happy 4th of july, too you lunatic. hope you had a blast.

I hope what I say to him knocks some sense into him, but judging by his response, I doubt it, but I could try...lol...Now that you mention Jerry Springer, it does kind of sound a little like that, haha. Oh, don't worry, after that last message I sent him, I'm definitely not talking to his triflin' ass anymore.Just when this drama rama's about to end...another one pops up for me, which I'll post in another thread because it's not related to this. Sort of need advice on that, too. Sorry

Originally Posted By: indygirlJust when this drama rama's about to end...another one pops up for me, which I'll post in another thread because it's not related to this. Sort of need advice on that, too. Sorry No need to be sorry, honey. That's what this board if for.

lol, thanks for understanding and reading and giving inputs about everything. i'm just like, wanting to say fuck everyone who's been throwin' shit my way and not deal with it anymore, even if some people are friends causing drama, heh.

omg he SERIOUSLY calls her super bitch? i thought it was kind just a joke but he used it there like it was her name haha

lmfao yeah, she calls herself that, too, and she even has a tatoo that's a superman symbol on her fat upper right shoulder arm, but it says "super bitch" i told one of my friends that the tatoo place made a mistake and it should have been a big F for fugly bitch or they wrote super wrong and it should have been stupid bitch, haha.seriously, this girl thinks she can run the place and everyone that's in it. i just hope that someone punches her one of these days if that hasn't been done already. her friend that lives with her was like, "if you want to hit a girl, then she's the girl to hit," lmao. i didn't have a problem with her friend, just her, haha.