Global Warming

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Here is a list of scientists who are currently speaking out against the idea that a global climate crisis is looming and that humanity is the cause.  Quote:Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology, Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of OttawaDr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans, former director of Australia's National Tidal Facility and professor of earth sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of OttawaDr. R. Timothy Patterson, professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology), Carleton University, OttawaDr. Fred Michel, director, Institute of Environmental Science and associate professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Carleton University, OttawaDr. Madhav Khandekar, former research scientist, Environment Canada. Member of editorial board of Climate Research and Natural HazardsDr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph, Ont.Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology, University of Winnipeg; environmental consultantDr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa; consultant in statistics and geologyMr. David Nowell, M.Sc. (Meteorology), fellow of the Royal Meteorological Society, Canadian member and past chairman of the NATO Meteorological Group, OttawaDr. Christopher Essex, professor of applied mathematics and associate director of the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.Dr. Gordon E. Swaters, professor of applied mathematics, Dept. of Mathematical Sciences, and member, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University of AlbertaDr. L. Graham Smith, associate professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University of VictoriaDr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University, HalifaxDr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in climatology at University of Exeter, U.K.Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of AlbertaDr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va., and Sioux Lookout, Ont.Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant, Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey, B.C.Dr. Douglas Leahey, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, CalgaryPaavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist, chemist, Cobourg, Ont.Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyDr. Freeman J. Dyson, emeritus professor of physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton, N.J.Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology, Oregon State University; Oregon State climatologist; past president, American Association of State ClimatologistsDr. Ian Plimer, professor of geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences, University of Adelaide; emeritus professor of earth sciences, University of Melbourne, AustraliaDr. R.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University, Townsville, AustraliaMr. William Kininmonth, Australasian Climate Research, former Head National Climate Centre, Australian Bureau of Meteorology; former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology, Scientific and Technical ReviewDr. Hendrik Tennekes, former director of research, Royal Netherlands Meteorological InstituteDr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, geologist/paleoclimatologist, Climate Change Consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New ZealandDr. Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences, University of VirginiaDr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics & geodynamics, Stockholm University, Stockholm, SwedenDr. Gary D. Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas, Calif.Dr. Roy W. Spencer, principal research scientist, Earth System Science Center, The University of Alabama, HuntsvilleDr. Al Pekarek, associate professor of geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences Dept., St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minn.Dr. Marcel Leroux, professor emeritus of climatology, University of Lyon, France; former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRSDr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases, Paris, France. Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, physicist and chairman, Scientific Council of Central Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw, PolandDr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull, U.K.; editor, Energy & EnvironmentDr. Hans H.J. Labohm, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations) and an economist who has focused on climate changeDr. Lee C. Gerhard, senior scientist emeritus, University of Kansas, past director and state geologist, Kansas Geological SurveyDr. Asmunn Moene, past head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, NorwayDr. August H. Auer, past professor of atmospheric science, University of Wyoming; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService) of New ZealandDr. Vincent Gray, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse Delusion: A Critique of 'Climate Change 2001,' Wellington, N.Z.Dr. Howard Hayden, emeritus professor of physics, University of ConnecticutDr Benny Peiser, professor of social anthropology, Faculty of Science, Liverpool John Moores University, U.K.Dr. Jack Barrett, chemist and spectroscopist, formerly with Imperial College London, U.K.Dr. William J.R. Alexander, professor emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Biosystems Engineering, University of Pretoria, South Africa. Member, United Nations Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences, University of Virginia; former director, U.S. Weather Satellite ServiceDr. Harry N.A. Priem, emeritus professor of planetary geology and isotope geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for Isotope Geosciences; past president of the Royal Netherlands Geological & Mining SocietyDr. Robert H. Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey professor of energy conversion, Dept. of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State UniversityDr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston, Mass.Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA, and the World Radiation Center, Davos, SwitzerlandDipl.-Ing. Peter Dietze, independent energy advisor and scientific climate and carbon modeller, official IPCC reviewer, Bavaria, GermanyDr. Boris Winterhalter, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki, FinlandDr. Wibjorn Karlen, emeritus professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University, SwedenDr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory, Calif.; atmospheric consultant.Dr. Art Robinson, founder, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Cave Junction, Ore.Dr. Arthur Rorsch, emeritus professor of molecular genetics, Leiden University, The Netherlands; past board member, Netherlands organization for applied research (TNO) in environmental, food and public healthDr. Alister McFarquhar, Downing College, Cambridge, U.K.; international economistDr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K. This article, by scientists at the Niels Bohr Institute at the University of Copenhagen, shows that even the concept of a "global temperature" is mathematically as well as thermodynamically impossible:  Quote: C. Essex, R. McKitrick, B. Andresen: Does a Global Temperature Exist?; J. Non-Equil. Thermod. vol. 32, p. 1-27 (2007). As for links to the actual journal articles...it's gonna take me a bit to get workable links that are any use to you. I can post links to good articles from reputable journals, but the peer reviewed journals usually require password logins to journal clearinghouses or university libraries (which I no longer have). But I'm working on it.

You'll have to, because lists of names are scientifically valueless.

Quote:When it comes to global warming I think it's a combination of natural happening and man caused I agree with this statement.

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You'll have to, because lists of names are scientifically valueless.

This discussion is scientifically valueless. We aren't going to discover if global warming is caused by man or not. We are only going to continously debate our sides. Nothing is going to be ultimately resolved here.

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We are only going to continously debate our sides.

That was the point of the post, me thinks. Debating either gets the gears churning in the old noggin' or frustrates people. For me, I'm the churning type.

Anyway what’s your opinions on the whole global warming thing? That was the question presented by the OP for this topic.

I'm also a churner. If someone can teach me something new about a topic, even if it goes against my personal opinion, then I thank them for it. Damien is great for this, he's one of the only people here who puts up a good argument.

What's wrong with discussing our views?

Here's a few I found that don't require a student ID or subscription. Some of them are actually pdf files.Note --->>> My point here is not to convince anyone of anything or to continue the global warming/no global warming debate. My point is merely to counter this statement made by Scotty:  Quote:Global warming is settled science, as settled as science gets anyway. There is practically no debate about it in the scientific community. [/url] [url=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/1131275.stm] [/url] [url=http://www.co2science.org/scripts/CO2ScienceB2C/articles/V10/N34/C2.jsp] [/url] [url=http://www.nature.com/climate/2007/0707/full/climate.2007.22.html] [/url] [url=http://www.climatepolice.com/GlobalTemp.pdf] [/url] [url=http://www.iarc.uaf.edu/highlights/2007/akasofu_3_07/Earth_recovering_from_LIA.pdf] [/url] [url=http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/reference/bibliography/2004/djs0402.pdf] EDIT: Okay, I know that don't look pretty (don't have time to make it so) and everything is duplicated, but it's there.

See, this is why I would make a great Mod! I have so much free time, and I'd just love to clean up that post! I have a fetish for tedious work!

Next time, just do it like this: [ url ] http://www.google.com [ /url ]I think it's messing up because you were supposed to put some text in between the two tags (like how it asks you for that when you hit the button to make the link). It's easier to just do it by hand sometimes.Test: www.google.com

The way it works on this forum is  Code:[url=http://www.google.com]Google[/url] which would make this:GoogleAltho your one works great too.

That's what I meant when I said it expected him to put some text between the two tags.That's what happens when you click on that button in the reply box... it says "Now enter the title of the webpage you are linking too" .. I'm guessing he didn't put anything there and it got messed up.I just think my way is a lot less confusing, but that's just me.

Your way is definitely less complicated, but I like the button version cause I can be a bit of a neat freak sometimes.

In the older version of this board putting simple [url][/url] tags around a URL made it clickable, but now if the software recognises it is a URL it will make it clickable automatically.

Yeah, I'm aware of all that.And I typically do it that way when posting a link.I just really didn't want to take the time to do that for that may posts.Sorry if that's a no-no.