Erm. I don't think the kind of stuff I'm screaming for them to do is legal in a match. The stuff I am screaming for them to do would generally result in broken arms.I mean I'm no expert.. nor am I trying to deny the fighters themselves being tough. I give them full respect they can truely take a beating.I realise they are tough. However, my problem is with my experience in the goold ol Jutsu it makes everything in MMA seem really.. less like actual martial arts.. Maybe I'm being overly cynical. However, there are far to many things I don't see used that I think would personally make the experience far more professional.I love Martial Arts. But, alot of the "mixed" stuff I see just looks much like wasted energy.Maybe its just because I think of it in its original context from the japanese word Jutsu.. and I think of it as an "art" which to me it really has to be. If your going to learn to fight and your going to learn a Martial Art then I believe you should learn it as an art.To me... UFC takes away from the "Art" aspect wayy too much. I NEVER (rare exceptions). Truely see someone make a fluent, determined motion where he isn't concerned about "giving up position" where he isn't concerned about "getting hit back" where he isn't concerned with anything else besides the art that is second nature to him.I have met a man who taught self defence to the army. The man has practiced Jujutsu all of his life. He has actually has black belts in multiple martial arts From Karate, Jujutsu, and other things. *Edit.. I gotta give credit to another person. There was an older lady in the class to. She was old however, not over the hill. This lady could beat the shit out of ANYONE I mean she was short and old but, I would put my money on her over almost ANYONE in UFC. This lady was phenominal. when watching him teach I could see it in the way he moved, the way he positioned himself and the way the poor bastard who he was demonstraiting with was writhing in pain and doing his best not to scream out in agony.(To me) Martial Arts should be about the sheer art of it. The ability to use minimal effort to totally dominate your opponent. I acknowledge the toughness of the people who participate in UFC however, only in specific occasions can I truely acknowledge the "art" behind it.I would NEVER take a martial art that didn't focus on the art. It would be a waste of time. Sure you might win fights without the art behind it. But, you will never in your life win against someone who truely focuses on the art aspect.
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It seems you place a lot of emphasis on one aspect of martial arts. When you say "art", are you talking about the physical movements of a style? Many fighters, regardless of style, have lost or have never known the essence of martial arts. In the ancient east, martial arts was practiced for the purpose of mind, body, and spirit. Longevity was important to many eastern cultures. Martial arts helps you become or stay physically and mentally healthy. It was also a way to cultivate the spirit. Some martial arts even included teachings of acupuncture, massage therapy, etc. Quote:The stuff I am screaming for them to do would generally result in broken arms. Quote:The ability to use minimal effort to totally dominate your opponent. Most fighters in the UFC are Brazilian Ju-Jitsu practictioners. Jui-Jitsu or JuJutsu or Jutsu is a Japanese fighting method used to dispatch an enemy using mainly grappling. The difference between the two, from what I understand, is Brazilian Ju-Jitsu was developed to be able to dispatch an enemy with less effort than the original Japanese form. Most brazilians were physically smaller than common Japanese men. So when JuJutsu was taught to them, the art eventually evolved to accomodate their smaller size. This way, a smaller and weaker fighter could still defeat a bigger and stronger opponent.There are many moves that are not used in the UFC, specifically in grappling. I think the main reason for this is the gloves. Grappling in those gloves can be difficult. Even Judo (also known as jutsu at one time) practictioners have a hard time with throws when wearing those gloves and fighting an opponent without a gi on.Even so, there are many grappling moves used in the UFC that will easily break an arm, elbow, shoulder, ankle, knee, etc.
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Maybe I need to start watching in at better times.My understanding of Brazilian jujutsu is that its more ground based techniques while regular jujutsu is more standing techniques.Jujutsu is ALL about being able to take out a large opponent (as martial arts usuaully are)One of the things my instructor taught me in my brief time taking jujutsu was that "the general way to tell if an instructor is good or not is by how much physical force you have to use for techniques".. Most of the fights I have seen are people who are "MMA" and ultimately barrel into a fight punching kicking and trying to flat out over power their opponent.When I refer to the artistic aspect I am refering in part to the movements. My instructor who practiced jujutsu had practiced it for a lifetime so when he made movements you could see a certain grace to them. You could feel it to a point it was unbelieveable.when I refer to the artistic aspect I am refering to the sort of "mind, body, and spirit" aspect. In martial arts the movement is (to me) symbolic of the mind body and spirit aspect because in order to make these movements it takes so long to narrow them down, to perfect them in a stable enviroment. I view martial arts as a life long persuit. It seems to me that many people out there don't look at it from an artistic stand point and I personally feel so long as you don't view it as an art.. well your never going to truely be a martial artist.. your just going to be some jackass that can fight.
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Well its very possible that you just caught a shitty match. I do know where your coming from and i respect your opinion. Everyone has there different views.
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I don't really watch it enough to make alot of claims.. Most of the fights I see are really rather poorly done and seem to be people who try to box and wrestle at the same time.I have seen one or two very good fights. One fighter used. BJJ although his name escapes me.. It was something like "royce gracy" but, it sounded like "Hoyce Gracy" when spoken.I noted that all of his movements and actions were extraordinary. He is one of the few fighters (I have seen) that I could say "this man is good"
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Royce is a major legend. He pretty much dominated the UFC with Jui Jitsu for years, until people stopped being one dimentional fighters and became Mixed Martial Artist. The gracies founded the UFC so yah if ur a fan of jui jitsu then there your people.
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The Gracies are people I have respect for. I have a profound respect for Royce inparticular. His movements are excellent I obsess over them.Unfortunately I'm hopping into Aiki Jutsu.. They don't allow arm bars and all of the things I am so accustomed to using until at least 2 or 3 belts up.Its really weird that in Jujutsu the class I took showed you pretty much everything as soon as you started. In the Aiki Jutsu class they show you a few techniques.. you have to perfect them and then you move up to the next technique.. which REALLY infuriates me. I prefered the teaching style of my older teacher because while its more dangerous to show all the techniques to newbs.. You never know just when you might want to inflict some serious pain on someone.