StillSearching had the idea of having a section of the forum devoted to Drug use/abuse. I think this is a very good idea and I'm surprised that it hasn't already been brought up.Drugs should be treated like sex, you can't just tell people to not do them. But you can educate them so they can make an educated decision and be as safe as possible. I don't believe that drug discussion of this type fits into the Addiction forum where it is most commonly found and I feel that a new section for the forum should be created. We have many retired drug users on this forum whose experience would be invaluable to those seeking help and information.
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Drugs forum
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So why don't you explain the point of the Contraception / Birth Control forum to me.
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Haha, wow, if you weren't such a prick then you'd almost be funny!
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Should this idea not even be considered? Even if a few Mods/Admins all gave their opinion and disapproved of it then at least it'd be better than the opinion of one self-righteous fuckwit.
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Look, I'm not a mod, nor will I probably ever be. But in my views, why would you want to post a forum about drugs? This site is seeked by young teens, not Jay and Silent Bob. Teaching younger people about drugs is not a good decision. On top of that, the ones defending this will probably be the only ones using it. It sounds more like something to be kept under the Addictions forum anyways.
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maybe even a forum on preserving natural gases. How you can cut down on your dependency on gasoline to get where you need to go. Tips on carpooling or other simple things besides gas. Electric motor scooters or bicycles for instance. LOL!
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Or:> Marijuana - Illegal, but relatively safe> Crystal Meth - extremely addicting and unsafeOf course it would be something like this. What the fuck else would it be?> Helms mentioned a "How To"Yes, Helms mentions a lot of things that are complete bullshit.> This all spawned from a topic about salvia that I closed, because it was becomming a thread about "how to", and supporting the use of said dangerous substance.Helms, you do know that people can go back to that thread and still read it and see that it wasn't a "how to" about how to smoke a legal substance, don't you?> It is our responsibility, as responsible as adults, parents and moderators of this site to help steer kids AWAY from drug use. Again, would you then care to explain to me the point of the Contraception / Birth Control forum? You seemed to ignore my question last time I asked that.Shouldn't it be your responsibility, as responsible adults, parents, and moderators to steer kids away from sex and practicing abstinence?
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that would be their parents' job. Apparently these kids parents don't care that they are sexually active, otherwise they wouldn't allow them access to this site. Teaching them safe sex practices is the best that we can do to help them. Also, some of them don't come to the site for sex, but rather depression, cancer, and other reasons. Try reading the forums every once in a while. That might help to let you understand what the site's about.
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> Teaching them safe sex practices is the best that we can do to help them
There we go. So we know they will have sex anyway, so teaching them safe sex practices is the best we can do.
Now replace "have sex" with "do drugs" and all of a sudden that same sentence doesn't apply anymore?
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there is a thing called quoting... it's not that hard to use.Most people won't use drugs. I for one will never touch marijuana or methanphetamines. The fad of drugs isn't as strong as it used to be. I don't think I've ever had a conversation with anyone that had anywhere in it: Dude, let's light up a doobie.You're fighting a losing cause. Not even talking about drugs will tell them that it's not a very safe decision to make. I come from a large family, and two of my sisters used to have an addiction to it. They were so caught up in their addictions that they couldn't even afford a computer or internet. Keyword in this: addiction. We have a forum for addictions allready. Please just drop the whole drugs forum. It's not happening.
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Even if a few Mods/Admins all gave their opinion and disapproved of it then at least it'd be better than the opinion of one self-righteous fuckwit. No chance in hell I would advocate a forum devoted to safe drug use. Just like the advice people/teens get: You're too young for sex!! Wait... use a condom... Birth Control.. The only good advice for drug use is don't do it.
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Most people won't use drugs. I for one will never touch marijuana or methanphetamines. The fad of drugs isn't as strong as it used to be. I don't think I've ever had a conversation with anyone that had anywhere in it: Dude, let's light up a doobie.First of all, a lot more people use drugs than you think, I guarantee it. Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.Second of all, you ignored the question in my last post. Does the sentence you used not apply all of a sudden when you replace two words?> Not even talking about drugs will tell them that it's not a very safe decision to makeSince you have no idea about drugs or anything: If people want to do it, they will do it, and pretty much everybody knows that it's bad for you to some degree. It's like people trying to smell cig smokers "Those thigns will kill you, you know?" .... I answer that with "Thanks, I had no idea"
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Just like the advice people/teens get: You're too young for sex!! Wait... use a condom... Birth Control.. I don't know what you're trying to say, but if the Contraception / Birth Control forum didn't exist, would you vote to have one or vote against it?> The only good advice for drug use is don't do it. Yeah, how effective is that? 0%
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LOL you think I haven't seen it and yet, I live in Shelby County, Texas, the nation's capitol in Methanphetamine production and distribution. My grandparents buy furniture from the country's biggest drug lord. I know what drugs are and I'm not a fan of them.I used to smoke to a degree. After my grandmother died from lung cancer caused by cigarettes, I quit.The answer to your previous question is no, teaching them to safely use drugs isn't the same. Keeping a person from an unwanted child and keeping someone on the track of future addictions are two different things alltogether.If it's bad for them and they know, and they still do it, that's their business, not someone's business to be telling others, especially teenagers, how to roll the perfect joint or anything else.I'm pretty sure with all the sex related things, it would be a given for the Contraception/ Birth Control forum to exist.And talking to your children about using drugs is actually more effective than 0%. A lot more effective. 60-80% of kids who are considering drug use don't use drugs after talking with an adult about it.
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My grandparents buy furniture from the country's biggest drug lordI'm sure they do.> Keeping a person from an unwanted child and keeping someone on the track of future addictions are two different things alltogether.How is it different? In one situation, you're telling them not to do it, while in the other, you're teaching them how to do it safely. Why?> how to roll the perfect joint or anything elseWho ever said anything about including information like that? > I'm pretty sure with all the sex related things, it would be a given for the Contraception/ Birth Control forum to exist.I'm pretty sure with all the drug related things, it would be a given for a Drug forum to exist.> 60-80% of kids who are considering drug use don't use drugs after talking with an adult about it.Do you have a source for that?
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Sammy Dance: Owns a furniture store in Center, Texas. Private jet was forced to land by FBI some years ago and found aboard were over 80 kilos of marijuana from Colombia.Well you're keeping them from causing this harm on themselves where if they do it, they're going to be hurting themselves. THERE IS NO SAFE WAY TO USE DRUGS.It's being hypothetical. Also a hint of fecisciousness.That's why we have an addiction forum, to help you get over the addictions, and I don't see forums labeled: Crank, Crack, Speed, Marijuana, or Methanphetamines anywhere, so there are really no other drug related forums.Try going to the websites and looking it up. They do have websites on how to talk to your kids. This isn't one of them.
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LOL sorry Radeckl, you have no beef in this soup.personally, I didn't know the other one either...
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You think someone having 80kg of weed makes them the biggest drug lord in the country? Wow, you really have no idea about drugs.> THERE IS NO SAFE WAY TO USE DRUGS.Who ever said there was? There's also no safe way to have sex.> Try going to the websites and looking it up. They do have websites on how to talk to your kids. This isn't one of them.So you don't have a source, which means you just made up your statistic.Just what I expected from someone like you.
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> I'm not a recreational drug use advocate and I don't know enough about this proposed forum to say one way or the other.
I think Helms might've assumed you're a stoner because surely everyone who's not a stoner would immediately disagree with this idea of a forum.
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Look SS. Sammy Dance is not only in the business of marijuana, and that was the only private jet they caught.I'm certain that you have good cause to want to have this forum, but it's not wanted here. SDP allready put in his piece and left. I'm no longer encouraging this battle of words either.In Helms' defense, he wasn't assuming anything, he thought that Radeckl was along with you two, but if you read into his post, he isn't backing it either.With that, I put in my piece.