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jelqing works almost the same as a cock ring, and people dont call that abuse....AND I SUGGESTED IT TO HIM AFTER HE CALLED ME A LIAR! AS PROOF!i had no intention of him to try it, and u cant develop ED from one rigorous session of "jelqing" and also there is definite proof that "jelqing" increases the strength of your erections, http://www.pegym.com/frequently-asked-questions/more-penis-enlargement-exercise-faqthats a site with alot of FAQ's eat your heart out...

Sigh, there you go again. Defending something you and I both know is wrong.  Quote:AND I SUGGESTED IT TO HIM AFTER HE CALLED ME A LIAR! AS PROOF!Again, there's no definite proof that jelqing works. Your results is not proof nor is it a definite guarantee it'll work. Experience doesn't equal as fact.  Quote:i had no intention of him to try it, and u cant develop ED from one rigorous session of "jelqing" Wow, even after I gave you those links, you still say no? You don't like reading, do you? So much for being an eager student willing to learn.  Quote:and also there is definite proof that "jelqing" increases the strength of your erections, http://www.pegym.com/frequently-asked-questions/more-penis-enlargement-exercise-faqLOL! Congrats on giving me a link to a bias site. It's a PE website, of course they are going to tell you the "positives" about penis enlargements!Like I said, continue if you wish. But please don't encourage others to do the same.-----ADDED: Yeah I don't trust that site. There's no link to a page or anything about what the dangers are about jelqing. They say it's "dangerous" but never explain how or why. What's even more amusing is that I found an article on that site, stating they have "proof" that penis enlargement works. They introduce the idea of stretching the penis and use the "Giraffe Women" as proof. I already proved this wrong in another thread. Stretching the neck will cause paralysis or death and the long necks are nothing more than a visual illusion.I give that site my official flag of bullshit.

ill be honest, ive never even been there, only read about 4 paragraphs, and decided to let u have at it...virtual PLEASE pay attention to what i write, and understand it before u make ur response, u misunderstanding what i write is gettin on my nerves,  Quote: Sigh, there you go again. Defending something you and I both know is wrong. Quote:AND I SUGGESTED IT TO HIM AFTER HE CALLED ME A LIAR! AS PROOF!Again, there's no definite proof that jelqing works. Your results is not proof nor is it a definite guarantee it'll work. Experience doesn't equal as fact. not proof that it works to increase strength in an erection, proof that it will pop ur blood vessels!!!  Quote: i had no intention of him to try it, and u cant develop ED from one rigorous session of "jelqing"Wow, even after I gave you those links, you still say no? You don't like reading, do you? So much for being an eager student willing to learn. you cannot develop ed from one session of jelqing thats impossible... only way to do that, would be to damage and abuse urself past rigorous and past insane. i GUESS u CAN develop it, but it would be extremely difficult and painful to do, you could only do that to yourself if thats what your goal was, to develop ED.the site thing ill admit u got me, i juss didnt feel like reading that all over again. i think that if you do the penile exercises CORRECTLY and SAFELY, you might see results, because the penis is like any other part of your body, muscles, that can be trained and such.

Quote:not proof that it works to increase strength in an erection, proof that it will pop ur blood vessels!!!Again, I must've missed it because not one of Rad's posts called you liar. Either you misundertsood him or he edited his posts before I came along.ADDED: Oh and the reason why I thought you were trying to prove that jelquing does increase strength is because of this: Originally Posted By: GrownPastMyYearsits an exercise for your penis, to increase erection strength, but u have to do it correctly for it to be effective, ill admit tho that myself got a bit carried away and i went to hard to fast, and thats when i made that discovery, and asked members of another forum why it is that happened. Sorry, but I'm a horrible reader, lol.  Quote:you cannot develop ed from one session of jelqing thats impossibleWho said in one session? I sure didn't. All I said it may cause ED.  Quote:the site thing ill admit u got me, i juss didnt feel like reading that all over again. i think that if you do the penile exercises CORRECTLY and SAFELY, you might see results, because the penis is like any other part of your body, muscles, that can be trained and such. Two things:1) If you don't know what you're posting, then don't post. I thought we went over this. If you didn't read the site itself, then why bother posting it?2) Very wrong. The penis isn't a muscle. It's erectile tissue, an organ. And once you've fucked up a organ, oh well.

if its tissue then it can be stretched... as we both have gone over this already, you can stretch tissues, not bone, as you explained with the "giraffe neck" women...all in all, i did it, it got my erections harder than steel, so ill say "Do jelqing at your own risk, im not responsible for the loss of penile strength, penile erectionicity, or penis." there... and the site i didnt read through because i've already read through sites like that.

i don't want to jump into the flaimes but.... why would a guy need a steel hard erection. IF it's hard and it works why does it need to be harder? i don't understand.

Quote:if its tissue then it can be stretched... as we both have gone over this already, you can stretch tissues, not bone, as you explained with the "giraffe neck" women...Eh, I suppose. Probably certain tissue (like skin) and probably to a certain extent. But the penis itself? Doubt it. Maybe a quarter of an inch, tops. I don't think you can get an extra inch or so.But why even bother? With the risks involved, it doesn't seem worth it. Every guy should just learn to accept himself and use what he has. I'm a girl and I'll tell you now bigger is never better.  Quote:and the site i didnt read through because i've already read through sites like that.That explains a lot, lol!  Originally Posted By: CR125IF it's hard and it works why does it need to be harder? i don't understand. I don't get it either. Low self-esteem, perhaps?

ill explain it, when i was on another forum for PE, there were guys that were 4 inchs long, 4 around, and about 26-29 years old, having a small penis does hurt peoples self esteem, because of some people now a days, including how i USED to be.they feel that they dont measure (no pun intended) up to other males, and there not "manly" enough...me personally i just wanted to get harder so i could retain an erection longer, since there was more blood in that area. i stopped PE after a few months, ill admit i had gains, but it was too time consuming, and i had reached my goals...I personally, feel sometimes that i'd like my penis to be smaller, it does get annoying sometimes. but i guess i like hurting the girl im with slightly when i want too.

Originally Posted By: GrownPastMyYears but i guess i like hurting the girl im with slightly when i want too. I hope that was a terrible joke...

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Originally Posted By: Virtual_Star
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but from my experience, i dont think you can pop your veins on your penis

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from what ive experienced myself through popped blood vessels

Can you please clear that up? Contradictions are confusing.

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Originally Posted By: GrownPastMyYears
im guessing is how i should put it

i juss took when u said "heres the proof" and then quoted me "im guessing is how i should put it" as sarcasm, which in turn would be like claiming what i said is bull...

when i said im guessin is how i should put it, i was talking about something different, and when u quoted me and to me at least, made it seem like u were talking my words out of context...

my apologies if i wasnt right, and i know i shouldnt assume things like that...

lol i like how u worded that, i dont like how its been worded towards me... but, the whole,  Quote: you say such stupid things so intelligently