I have noticed the price of my food budget going up up and away. As, I am sure, has everyone else. Who else is eating differently now that food is getting so expensive for us?We still have cheap food here in the states compared to elsewhere in the world, it just isn't budgeted for when it doubles in such a short amount of time. Meat is becoming almost unheard of in my house because I can't afford it. Summer should be better because of the garden, but even that became a much larger project in hopes of not having to buy any veggies over the summer, and plans and prep is in the works to preserve as much as I can for next winter...I haven't felt so desperate to cover my ass as far as food goes since I was married and the guy wasn't working...How hard is it for everyone else? Anyone's diet failing because of the cost of food?
How's the food budget?
I'm lucky enough to where food has never been an issue. I really don't look at prices except for the price/oz. I'll buy the size that give me a better deal. But I do understand that it sucks for many other people and is unfortunate.
However, I filled up my car this morning at $4.16/gal... That's starting to affect my discretionary expenses quite a bit. I've seriously started considering getting a motorcycle to go to work.
Gas here is sooo expensive. i just worked it out to gallons and its $5.26 CAD
Yeah, the fuel is biting us in the butt too, but not as hard as it could! My lil car gets 50mpg so its close to a motorcycle...that is what my man drives, and since I don't go too much of anywhere I get the new rig at home...it only gets 17mpg...Urgh!
I hate grocery shopping anymore. It is so expensive. I don't know what's worse, the price of gas or the price of milk.
Tell me about it! I used to keep about $20 cash in my pocket for bread and milk for the week (my oldest has an allergy so she gets special milk) and now it is a JOKE!We still eat well, it just sucks that our grocery bill is close to what we pay for rent. Even with a family of 6 our food was a standard 1/3 of going rent. As a smoker I used to spend more on cigarettes than I did on fuel, and now, I spend about 1/3 to 1/4 of the amount on ciggys compared to gas. I can buy a pack of name brand cigarettes for less than I can buy a gallon of gas!!!I just really started thinking about it when I saw the news blip about the effects it is having on the food banks. I guess there are more people (middle class types) going there for help, and there is less food being donated, because of the expense of groceries.The thing that got me, was the women that the news showed walking out of there needed to lose some 100 lbs each...They definatly weren't hurting for food....
Gotta be critical here.... Meat is becoming almost unheard of in my house because I can't afford it. As a smoker I used to spend more on cigarettes than I did on fuel, and now, I spend about 1/3 to 1/4 of the amount on ciggys compared to gas. Sympathy wanes..... How much per month do you spend on cigarettes?
Less than $100. I wasn't looking for sympathy, lolBUT, for sympathies sake, I used to spend about $150, on cigs, and about $250 on beer...So, for about three months I haven't been drinking, and that has contributed quite nicely to the food budget...Yeah yeah, there is still work to be done, but I'm getting there..
I really noticed it the other day. I stopped to get a doughnut on the way into work. It's the first time in ages that I've stopped to buy a doughnut. I was just stopping cause I was tired and needed to get out of the car didn't really want the damn things. ...anyway I got two doughnuts a chocolate bar and a maple doughnut. I was figuring about 80 cents, less than a dollar anyway. I was blown away when she said, "that'll be $1.89." I couldn't believe it, there ain't no doughnut worth more than two bits. Well it damn sure woke me up for the rest of the drive into work.Something else to ponder. Around here there is no shortage of beef but... A loaf of bread costs more than the highest quality of ground beef (price per pound) you can buy. That's fuckin' nuts.
"Perfect Storm" in Food Prices Caused by Many Factors
It's in the opinion section so take it with a grain of salt.
by Johann Hari
Thursday, 22 May 2008
Below the headlines about rocketing food prices and rocking governments, there lays a largely unnoticed fact: bananas are dying. The foodstuff, more heavily consumed even than rice or potatoes, has its own form of cancer. It is a fungus called Panama Disease, and it turns bananas brick-red and inedible.
There is no cure. They all die as it spreads, and it spreads quickly. Soon -- in five, 10 or 30 years -- the yellow creamy fruit as we know it will not exist. The story of how the banana rose and fell can be seen a strange parable about the corporations that increasingly dominate the world -- and where they are leading us.
Bananas seem at first like a lush product of nature, but this is a sweet illusion. In their current form, bananas were quite consciously created. Until 150 ago, a vast array of bananas grew in the world's jungles and they were invariably consumed nearby. Some were sweet; some were sour. They were green or purple or yellow.
A corporation called United Fruit took one particular type -- the Gros Michael -- out of the jungle and decided to mass produce it on vast plantations, shipping it on refrigerated boats across the globe. The banana was standardised into one friendly model: yellow and creamy and handy for your lunchbox.
There was an entrepreneurial spark of genius there -- but United Fruit developed a cruel business model to deliver it. As the writer Dan Koeppel explains in his brilliant history Banana: The Fate of the Fruit That Changed the World, it worked like this. Find a poor, weak country. Make sure the government will serve your interests. If it won't, topple it and replace it with one that will.
Burn down its rainforests and build banana plantations. Make the locals dependent on you. Crush any flicker of trade unionism. Then, alas, you may have to watch as the banana fields die from the strange disease that stalks bananas across the globe. If this happens, dump tonnes of chemicals on them to see if it makes a difference. If that doesn't work, move on to the next country. Begin again.
This sounds like hyperbole until you study what actually happened. In 1911, the banana magnate Samuel Zemurray decided to seize the country of Honduras as a private plantation. He gathered together some international gangsters like Guy "Machine Gun" Maloney, drummed up a private army, and invaded, installing an amigo as president.
The term "banana republic" was invented to describe the servile dictatorships that were created to please the banana companies. In the early 1950s, the Guatemalan people elected a science teacher named Jacobo Arbenz, because he promised to redistribute some of the banana companies' land among the millions of landless peasants.
President Eisenhower and the CIA (headed by a former United Fruit employee) issued instructions that these "communists" should be killed, and noted that good methods were "a hammer, axe, wrench, screw driver, fire poker or kitchen knife". The tyranny they replaced it with went on to kill more than 200,000 people.
But how does this relate to the disease now scything through the world's bananas? The evidence suggests even when they peddle something as innocuous as bananas, corporations are structured to do one thing only: maximise their shareholders' profits. As part of a highly regulated mixed economy, that's a good thing, because it helps to generate wealth or churn out ideas. But if the corporations aren't subject to tight regulations, they will do anything to maximise short-term profit. This will lead them to seemingly unhinged behaviour -- like destroying the environment on which they depend.
Not long after Panama Disease first began to kill bananas in the early 20th century, United Fruit's scientists warned the corporation was making two errors. They were building a gigantic monoculture. If every banana is from one homogenous species, a disease entering the chain anywhere on earth will soon spread. The solution? Diversify into a broad range of banana types.
The company's quarantine standards were also dire. Even the people who were supposed to prevent infection were trudging into healthy fields with disease-carrying soil on their boots. But both of these solutions cost money -- and United Front didn't want to pay. They decided to maximise their profit today, reckoning they would get out of the banana business if it all went wrong.
So by the 1960s, the Gros Michel that United Fruit had packaged as The One True Banana was dead. They scrambled to find a replacement that was immune to the fungus, and eventually stumbled upon the Cavendish. It was smaller and less creamy and bruised easily, but it would have to do.
But like in a horror movie sequel, the killer came back. In the 1980s, the Cavendish too became sick. Now it too is dying, its immunity a myth. In many parts of Africa, the crop is down 60 percent. There is a consensus among scientists that the fungus will eventually infect all Cavendish bananas everywhere. There are bananas we could adopt as Banana 3.0 -- but they are so different to the bananas that we know now that they feel like a totally different and far less appetising fruit. The most likely contender is the Goldfinger, which is crunchier and tangier: it is know as "the acid banana".
Thanks to bad corporate behaviour and physical limits, we seem to be at a dead end. The only possible glimmer of hope is a genetically modified banana that can resist Panama Disease. But that is a distant prospect, and it is resisted by many people: would you like a banana split made from a banana split with fish genes?
When we hit up against a natural limit like Panama disease, we are bemused, and then affronted. It seems instinctively bizarre to me that lush yellow bananas could vanish from the global food supply, because I have grown up in a culture without any idea of physical limits to what we can buy and eat.
Is there a parable for our times in this odd milkshake of banana, blood and fungus? For a hundred years, a handful of corporations were given a gorgeous fruit, set free from regulation, and allowed to do what they wanted with it. What happened? They had one good entrepreneurial idea -- and to squeeze every tiny drop of profit from it, they destroyed democracies, burned down rainforests, and ended up killing the fruit itself._
The slant is obvious but, if true, the part about the bananas dieing off is interesting.
God I hope that doesn't happen! Banana's are one of my favorite fruits
giggle I wonder why.
Your so bad...
oh yea. tim hortons is friggin expensive.
Originally Posted By: DxLISHxISx_43giggle I wonder why. Well duh!! Of course I use them for..... EATTING :P heheThough I could tell you what a friend of mine told me he did with them!
Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfThough I could tell you what a friend of mine told me he did with them! Hey I've seen that video!Are we talkin' banana jackin' or insertion? _________________________________________________________________I hope your not talking about me in this thread.Notice I never said I did it... I just know how.
Originally Posted By: OldFolksNotice I never said I did it... I just know how. MMMHMMMMMM!!!!!!