I never really told anyone about this before, except for here.I've been thinking about suicide for months, I'm losing interest in being with people, I don't really talk with my parents anymore about ANYTHING for fear they may misunderstand me for being a psychotic patient.I feel like my friends are leaving me, I feel like everything around me is slowly falling apart. I'm not trying to be emo, I'm just saying the truth.I've been feeling more depressed each passing day. I'm especially confused about myself and my sexuality which makes me even feel more guilty because of my religion and the people's attitudes at school against gay people and whatnot.Can anyone please, help?.
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Thoughts of suicide
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Well I think this is simply a hard time in your life. Do you honestly think your life is nothing but going down hill? I'm curious how old are you? I have felt similar to what you are going through and I think all that is needed is a positive attitude. This may sound stupid but what if you simply tried making more friends? One good friend or family member can be good enough for anyone going through a rough time. I guarantee you that this is probably just a phase and its something you will learn from. I would try to think of it as something to look back at later and see where you have gotten to. Find a hobby and try to master it to perfection. This can get your mind off of everything while at the same time giving you a huge sense of achievement. Although the first thing I suggest is talking to your parents. If you cant do that I definitely suggest finding a hobby or becoming physically active. I wish you good luck! Stay positive!
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I'm sixteen..and... there is one thing that helps me keep my mind off of other things.. I love to sing.. =/ don't know if that counts as something..
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That certainly counts as something!
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I'm assuming that by you're sexuality and religion, you're implying that you're Christian. I'd suggest watching this video by Ravi Zacharias: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkCkXU0e75k To give a synopsis, marriage between a man and a woman is considered a sacred gift from God. So it's ok for you to be gay, just as long as you aren't practicing it. This is what God wants. He understands some people are naturally attracted to the same sex, but you can ask Jesus for the power to not give in to your emotions. Your reward will be tremendous in heaven for doing such an incredibly difficult thing for the sake of Jesus. The problem is that it takes away from the sanctity of marriage when it is no longer between a man and a woman. Trust me, suicide is not the answer to your problems! You'll find a place you feel you belong soon enough. School and the teenage years are probably the most difficult times you'll go through, but it will seem irrelevant when you are older.
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wait what? :confused:
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ahh yes, sarcasm I take it :D. ...at least i hope so
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You might be referring to Mosaic Law which doesn't really apply to us as much as did back then. Just like how you should be killed for working on the Sabbath, but nowadays some people need to work on Sunday because people can die and the internet can crash if you don't. It should really be the 9 commandments now, but some people whose jobs aren't too too important take Sundays off. Are you also referring to Leviticus and Deuteronomy? Leviticus only applied to the Levites who were priests. So the rules applied to priesthood, but there is some very valuable stuff to be learned from there for anyone else.
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I was just giving him another viewpoint on homosexuality and Christianity. It's not evil to be gay, I just feel God doesn't wish for a man and a man to get married. But I really feel society needs to be more accepting of homosexuals.
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Quote:Totally inappropriate for this thread! Inaccurate in that it is incomplete, as well! Far from inappropriate, it's one person's view, simply stated, in a response to the OP. Why is it that we can't be tolerant of the opinions of others without making a debate out of everything? If posters are only allowed to post certain things that agree with a given point of view, who has been appointed to determine what that is?Just let it go and let people choose to accept or not.
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It's OK when there is a simple discussion. It's not when someone is suicidal. There is a difference.
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Please! Everyone, I'm not offended whatsoever about cooldawg's post, please do not bash him for what he did, I am in no way offended at all.But thank you everyone for responding to me, it makes me feel heard out and understood. That's all that matters...
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Quote:Would it still have been appropriate... if we had come in here telling him what an complete asshole he was instead of offering what we could? I think you're pushing this a little far. Horniboi raised the concept of religion is his original post. Now he didn't indicate if he was Christian, Jewish, Islamic or Buddhist. But what difference would that make anyway? Cooldawg was well within his rights to give a Christian perspective. It was one post--not a rant.
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Your opinion as to what is salt and what is salve, and you're entitled to it. End of discussion.
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It would be my assumption that telling a suicidal person that their orientation forces God to hate them is 100% Salt.The boy can love and fuck whoever he god damn well pleases.
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ok well i was the same way a litle while ago and just TALK to your DR. and theyll prob put u on zoloft or somtin like that
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Are you suicidal because of the "I might be gay" thing or are there other contributing factors to those feelings? Talk more about those.As for your sexuality, your still young (as far as I know) and sexuality is still highly fluid at your age. So, don't read to much into feelings that you aren't really sure about. Then even if you are sure about how you feel and you know you like guys you shouldn't feel the need to deal with it right now. Remember, there is no need to come out to your friends, family or school right now. As a matter of fact I would advice against that.Deal with all this when your better able to take care of yourself when your out on your own and away from your school and in an environment where you are more in control and independent. College is a different world and is a place that is generally far more open to people and who they are. If you don't go to college your still out on your own and away from that high school setting that is so judgemental. Now understand if you do feel that you may be gay I'm not telling you to deny who you are to yourself. I'm simply saying it's not something that you have to advertise. No one needs to know, it's not any of their business. Just don't feel that you have to inform everyone about this. In other words don't get overly stressed about it now.I felt a lot the same way as you when I came to my realizations at 28 and while being married. I felt like everything was falling a part and that I didn't want to talk to anyone and if I did they wouldn't understand. For a very long time it just got worse. Each day was a fresh hell in a pit that was a little deeper. I thought earnestly about offing myself, I'm glad I didn't. I was one click away.I was brought up Catholic, still go to mass on the rare occasion. All I can say with regard to any religions thoughts about my sexuality is that I think man got this one wrong. I just don't buy that God would condemn anyone for who they love. I just don't think that makes any sense and don't buy it.Don't despair things will change and if you need someone to talk to we're all hear and feel free to PM me if you want to talk but don't want to talk to any and every reader of this forum.
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Scotty is right on!You are still young and last thing you should be worrying about right now is labeling yourself. But just because you are young doesn’t mean you don’t know who you are sexually. As long as you can come to terms and accept yourself for who you are, that’s all that matters; everyone else is secondary. High School is a trying time for everyone as everyone is trying to figure how and what they are. I might get slack for saying this, but homosexual kids in school have it 10 times harder because we cannot be who we are without being treated cruelly, and let be honest high school kids are the cruelest. So it adds a lot of stress and pressure, which mounts to depression, and thoughts of suicide. I’ve been there, and it’s hard! But one thing to remember, it’s just High School. There is so much more to life after High School where you will be accepted, so don’t let the pressure and stress over whelm you. Have fun in High School; there is no rule or hidden law that states you need to wear your sexuality on your sleeve for everyone to know. And even if you wanted to, like Scotty said, I would advise that you didn’t. School isn’t a place to express your sexuality; it’s for education. You have PLENTY of time after graduation to express your sexuality.As for the whole religious aspect, I’m a gay Christian. It’s easy for people who are not gay to simply say “just pray to God he’ll make it better”, well guess what? There is nothing TO make better. You are as God intended. As a wise man told me once “God makes no mistakes. You are how god intended, it’s up to you how you decide to play the role”. You can decide to play the role denying who you are and live a miserable life or you can play the role of a person who simply loves another man and be happy and loved. Which one do you think God would want you to live? Answer is simple; he wants you to be happy and loved just as he loves you. I know it’s easy for me to say that as I have come to grips with God and my sexuality, and I know you are still searching for that enlightenment. It takes time, but know it’s there. Than there is family, which depending on certain factors can be rough, but in the end you are their son, and they’ll always love you unconditionally. My suggestion to you is to wait before telling them until you are able to support yourself and even better/easier if you are already living on your own. Just understand that when you finally do tell them they might need some space or might take it hard. My parents took it hard like most I’m sure do, but after a few weeks they realized I was still the same person and who I love in life is not going to change that. Now my mother is a huge supporter of the gay community, so things do get better, they just take time. Just remember your parents come from a different generation where homosexuality wasn’t really discussed, and when it was discussed it was in a negative view. So respect their feelings, just as they need to respect yours. I know I made a huge post, and might be a lot of info to take in. Main point I want you to understand is that it’s okay to be whom you are RIGHT NOW without having to tell the world. You are in a critical stage in your development and that’s your own personal business, no one else’s. You don’t need anyone else’s approval for your sexuality other than your own. As long as you accept yourself, does it matter if others accept you? Be happy, enjoy High School and leave all these added stress come later in life when you’ll be able to handle them better and have people to support you. I hope I helped, even if it was a little. Feel free to PM if you have any other questions.
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That was a great post Eddie. And 91 take to heart what he said. Remember we're all here for ya if you need us.