Originally Posted By: OldFolksWell get ready, when the dvd is released it's going to include an extended sex scene... or so I heard this morning. It figures...I'm surprised it wasn't included in the cinema release.But I agree with you that it reminded me VERY much of Dances with Wolves...all except the very ending. But that's the happy-ending of a fairy-tale (Avatar) contrasted with cold reality (Dances with Wolves). In fact, the tribal leader in Avatar is portrayed by the same full-blooded Cherokee that appeared in Dances with Wolves, and who also played "Magua" in "Last of the Mohicans"...can't remember his name off hand.I don't understand, though, what all the religious hype was about. While I see the natives hold a reverence for their planet, it's not really a God...it's a scientifically explainable entity (with a lot of mystery involved). That's what the audience is lead to believe, I think. But the symbiosis is much more direct (and therefor apparent) than what we have in our world. I think the movie makes (or tries to) much more of an environmental statement than a religious one.BTW, I understand that there WILL be a sequal.
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Avatar (there had to be athread about it)
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I just saw it on Saturday.. Pretty cool. It took me a little while to acclimate to the 3-D. The computer graphics/animation is pretty amazing compared to what I've seen when my kids were younger.Knowing what was discussed here, I agree that the religeous hype was over the top.
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Originally Posted By: thorBTW, I understand that there WILL be a sequal. They better not. The story was told, it was fun. Any sequal would just have the humans coming back and being fought off again, which as Scotty said above, wouldn't happen. The humans would probably nuke them from orbit and then take what they want. And Magua was played by Wes Studi. I love that film!
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Originally Posted By: bobalicious Originally Posted By: thorBTW, I understand that there WILL be a sequal. They better not. The story was told, it was fun. Any sequal would just have the humans coming back and being fought off again, which as Scotty said above, wouldn't happen. The humans would probably nuke them from orbit and then take what they want. Actually there will be a Sequel.. actually two. Each one will take off right where the other left off.. Cameron already announced it. http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2010/01/08/ava...ed-like-to-see/
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A sequel.... Ehhhh. I'm more looking forward to the Cohen brothers remake of True Grit starring Jeff Bridges and Mat Damon. It's supposed to be more authentic to the book and remain a story told from Matty Ross's perspective. There was another film I heard about that won't be out for awhile but I'm really looking forward to. I can't think of what it was though.... I was thinking about it when I started this reply.... age....
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Originally Posted By: OldFolksA sequel.... Ehhhh. I'm more looking forward to the Cohen brothers remake of True Grit starring Jeff Bridges and Mat Damon. It's supposed to be more authentic to the book and remain a story told from Matty Ross's perspective. This has the makings of the perfect movie. I can't wait.
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my concern is that Cameron had years to write and refine the first story. Now he wants to bash a couple others out in short order. Could be a recipe for disaster.
Also, remember how the Matrix went down hill with each subsequent chapter.
Now, I'm waiting on the proposed production of F Paul Wilson's "Rakoshi" (aka "The Tomb"). But who the hell could possibly play Repairman Jack and do him any justice!? Possibly one of the best and most beloved, pulp-fiction characters ever :smile:
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Originally Posted By: unsupervisedmy concern is that Cameron had years to write and refine the first story. It took years to write thatstory?!? My 6-year old nephew could've written it in 30 minutes.
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so you've seen it then.I also read that there was significant sections of subplot removed to make it more appealing to the general slack-jawed, mouth-breathing public
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Originally Posted By: unsupervisedI also read that there was significant sections of subplot removed to make it more appealing to the general slack-jawed, mouth-breathing public This is not so unusual with long films. A film has to be considered by the industry execs to be pretty rivetting before they allow it to go on so long...and even then, they consider themselves to be taking a chance that that audiance won't just get up and walk. Gone are the days when you're given a chance to think during a movie...and, as you allude to, for there to be anything there worth thinking about to begin with. This also, indirectly, allows for "Directors cuts" and "extended versions" to be released later, with the added incentive for purchase that you might get something extra. With "The Lord of the Rings", the extended versions are worth picking up, in my opinion. Usually I don't think it's worth it, though.
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Originally Posted By: thor
This also, indirectly, allows for "Directors cuts" and "extended versions" to be released later, with the added incentive for purchase that you might get something extra. With "The Lord of the Rings", the extended versions are worth picking up, in my opinion. Usually I don't think it's worth it, though.
If you like Directors Cuts then you need to find a copy of the Richard Donner cut of Superman II. He originaly filmed both the first and second movie together but delayed Superman II to finish the first movie. But due to disagreements with the producers, he wasn't brought back to finsh it and the story was changed so much by the new director. All that stupid crap at the end with him having weird new powers, not to mention that about 15 minutes of Marlon Brando footage was removed.
Its definitely worth a watch, just to see what the movie should have been like.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superman_II:_The_Richard_Donner_Cut
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Originally Posted By: unsupervisedso you've seen it then.Nope. But I've heard the "plot", read "plot" summaries, read reviews and criticisms of the "plot" - the most frequent being there isn't much of a plot.I could see where it would take years to produce a film like Avatar. But I doubt much time was given to the plot.I will see it in a theater hopefully.