Well, i have never really been involved with politics to a high degree despite being a leader in the Model United Nations class at my school and often debating international issues lol However, i just had to write a paper for my next debate conference on "extraordinary rendition" and i must say, that i am ashamed of what our of the United States has been conducting. ill just give a sentence summary: Extraordinary rendition is the highly secretive and illegal program where suspected terrorists are extradited (transported to, taken to) another state where they are interrogated. They are interrogated outside of the U.S. because extremely inhumane torture methods are used. The problem is, countless innocent people have been suspected, kidnapped, tortured, physically and emotionally beat by our country. I was never for Obama, however im starting to see hope in him with his recent announcement of temporarily closing guantanamo bay prison. If you have the time, i urge you to watch this video about extraordinary rendition, its only 25 minutes long or something.http://hub.witness.org/node/8109-A once extremely naive teenager woken up by our corrupt nation.a.k.a= questions67 lol
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Extraordinary rendition=terrible
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Originally Posted By: questions67
Well, i have never really been involved with politics to a high degree despite being a leader in the Model United Nations class at my school and often debating international issues lol However, i just had to write a paper for my next debate conference on "extraordinary rendition" and i must say, that i am ashamed of what our of the United States has been conducting. ill just give a sentence summary: Extraordinary rendition is the highly secretive and illegal program where suspected terrorists are extradited (transported to, taken to) another state where they are interrogated. They are interrogated outside of the U.S. because extremely inhumane torture methods are used. The problem is, countless innocent people have been suspected, kidnapped, tortured, physically and emotionally beat by our country. I was never for Obama, however im starting to see hope in him with his recent announcement of temporarily closing guantanamo bay prison. If you have the time, i urge you to watch this video about extraordinary rendition, its only 25 minutes long or something.
http://hub.witness.org/node/8109
-A once extremely naive teenager woken up by our corrupt nation.
a.k.a= questions67 lol
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here lemme give u some websites. it will shock you. ill start wit this one. An entire documentary performed by Frontline/broadcasted on PBS:
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/stories/rendition701/
Here are some sites i used for my paper. Read the cases
http://www.aclu.org/safefree/extraordinaryrendition/22203res20051206.html
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2005/02/14/050214fa_fact6
http://www.fpif.org/fpiftxt/5502
http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3499/extraordinary_rendition_on_trial/
And then here is one of the many United Nations documents that deems it a violation of law.
http://www.un.org/documents/ga/res/39/a39r046.htm
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Make sure to read the newyorker one, the Fpif one, which stands for "Freign Policy In Focus". these are all for the most part valid websites. I STRONGLY reccomend you read all of these articles, dont just browse them. its time well worth spent. Just look at this: • Robert Bair, a retired CIA agent, displays the cruelty of extraordinary rendition through his harsh words, "If you want a serious interrogation, you send a prisoner to Jordan. If you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want someone to disappear -- never to see them again -- you send them to Egypt".[b] -
Hi there.I'd just like to say, be careful what sites you go onto, the government can and do track this. For example if you went onto say a KKK site, even if it was for educational/work purposes you get noted by the government. Then in the future if there are any racist attacks in your area you might just get a knock on your door. Believe me its not just the US government that does this, it happens in the UK and many others too.Be careful.Da Hawk
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I don't doubt you're digging at all. I've just gotten to the point that I'm never satisfied with someone saying something happened. Follow the sources and get to the primary source. Anything you read you should ask "how do I know this is true?" and "what motive would they have for wanting me to believe this is true?". I would also encourage you to take the effort to seek out dissenting views. And most of all, don't be afraid of that dark place in the middle where most truth lies. One of the biggest favors I ever did for myself was to learn to live with mystery and contradiction! :wink:
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That is good advice, no matter the subject.
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yes, this has happened... to CANANDIAN CITIZENS
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Yes, and a bunch of other places. In England it created a big stink when it was learned that rendition flights were landing and refueling on British soil. In Italy a group of CIA agents have been indicted for kidnapping an Egyptian cleric in Milan and bringing him to Egypt. And the Canadian case you mentionned has received a huge amount of publicity and is being pursued in a law suit.I've been biting my tongue on this one. It is remarkable to me how some people will choose to not believe something simply because they'd prefer not to believe it, even after Bush himself acknowledged the program and publicly defended it.
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hell yeahbut they still would rather hide their heads in th sand