So yesterday in my town it was about 95 - 100 degrees, pretty damn hot for Santa Cruz, or just pretty hot period. So me and two other friends (Ralph and Eric) had just gotten home from the beach and we were at my house looking for some money so we could go down to Longs Drug Store and get some drinks. So we find some change and head down to the store. We all 3 were in board shorts and had no shirts on because it was extremely hot. So we were walking through the park that leads to the store and we get to the bottom of the trail and just entered the parking lot when we see this cop car going 40mph through the parking lot atleast charging towards us. So i make a joke and say "Ralph, run the cops are here for you!" and we laughed. So we realize the cop is obviously going to go past us through the park or something because he was going super fast so we all jog to the side about 5 feet.So the cop car stops about 10-15 feet away from us and the cop gets out of his car, pulls out his tazer gun points it at us and tells us to get on the ground. So in my head (keep in mind i had just made that joke) im thinking "Really?, is this actually happening haha" and then i start thinking about what we could have possibly done wrong that day. So we are all 3 on the ground (Shirtless remember) and the cop goes "Wheres everyone else?" and none of us say anything for a second and then i proceed to say "I have no idea what you are talking about", he talks on his radio thing and says he has the suspects and what not and then he proceeds to handcuff all 3 of us and put us on the curb. He then tells us there was just a 15 man brawl in the parking lot about 2 minutes before hand and that we were apart of it. He accuses us of being in the fight and we deny it, and he goes "If you werent in a fight why are your shirts off?" Eric says "Because its hot" and i say "Yeah and we were just at the beach" and the cop says "Dont bullshit me". You know because being a 100 degree day and us living 10 feet from the beach, it would just be completely far fetched if we were at the beach right? Not to mention we are all 3 in BOARD shorts.So he takes down our info and what not and continues to ask us more questions about the fight we were apparently in and we all deny everything. So the sergeant rolls up in his car ask us a bunch more questions and also accuses us of being in the fight and at this point im just starting to get pissed. The Sgt goes on to say "Oh dont bullshit us, look at you, you are all dirty blah blah, something something about accusing us of being in the fight" What he failed to realize is that they just laid us all 3 on the fucking pavement without shirts, that is why we were dirty.So at this point im pissed and i start to speak (with a slight tone) "Ok you know what, call my house ask my mom where i was 2 minutes ago and she will tell you i was at home, im really not worried about this because i KNOW i didnt do anything wrong, and the reason im dirty is because...." and before i could finish the Sgt tells me to "SHUT UP". He didnt say be quiet, he didnt say anything else he said "SHUT UP" I dont remember the rest of the conversation but i remember them finding two skateboards and asked them if they were ours and we said no. And i remember they asked Ralph his name and he gave it and they couldn't find him in there little computer thing so they threatened to take him to jail because they thought he was lying about his name. Another squad car rolls up and goes to the other side of the building where they found all the kids that were in the fight, and the sergeant un-cuffed us and went over there also. The original cop got a call about a stolen vehicle and tells us "Your lucky we got a call, get out of here" and he lets us go.So what was supposed to be a trip to the market turns into us getting a tazer pulled on us and dealing with 2 really dick cops. The cop acted like he was doing us a favor by letting us ago. The whole thing was just ridiculous. I understand them stopping us and doing the procedure and questioning us and what not, because it was a case of "Wrong place, wrong time" but the whole thing really could have been handled more professionally. It just left a sour taste in my mouth about the cops and just really pissed me off to be honest. Anyway thats all i have to say.
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First Encounter with the Cops
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I have a lengthy history with the local cops here, so I have better grounds to claim harassment, but if it were me in your situation, Id bitch, Id cry, Id write the news paper opinions page, Id call the fucking local news channel, Id complain and and cry till someone offered me some cheese with my wine. Then Id see an attorney.
But then again I fucking hate cops, 6 of my arrests have been for fucking up cops, and several now have an offer for an ass beating anytime they care to drop the badge and swing by my house.
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but if it were me in your situation, Id bitch, Id cry, Id write the news paper opinions page, Id call the fucking local news channel, Id complain and and cry till someone offered me some cheese with my wine. Then Id see an attorney. Over what? For being detained and questioned?
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yes.You have a whole different view than I do.Iv been fucked with by cops, I payed alot of attorneys alot of cash because of the fuckers, I know the laws too well.Stopping you, asking you questions, shit like that is one thing, but they have the burden of proof.If they can not pin point a specific reason why you are being detained, they have no case.No witness, no saw them run form the fight and followed them, not a god damned thing to suspect that they were involved.The attitude is more than half of it.Iv had cops stop me and ask me shit and be decent about it, pulling a weapon on 3 kids in shorts with no shirts and no way to conceal a weapon? thats bullshit. screaming shut up? bullshit.Even people that hate cops know that a good cop listens to the suspect, because 99% of the time the suspect hangs themselves, its the shit they say that is used against them to convict them.Likewise and smart person thats dealt with the cocksuckers before knows you say jack shit.It does not matter what questions they ask me I say nothing, innocent or guilty I saw not a damned thing. Its america, you do not have to say a word, I sit and smile. I have the right to remain silent, nto to mention the constitution protects me from being forced to provide testimony against myself.Just becuase you did not do what your accused of does not mean that you have to say a word.Many innocent people have been locked up because of the shit they said when they had nothing to do with what they were accused of.now that being said, its attitude, no a question, not jack shit, yelling and a statment of me being involved?FUck you, you got to prove it I do not have to prove I was not involved. Be decent and I may answer a question, I might even tell ya if I saw anything, be a dick? Youll fucking pay for it, possibly with your career.Iv ruined many many peoples lives that pissed me off, and just at the local level Iv destroyed 4 police careers and 'helped' them see that law enforcement was not for them.Why? because I do not like cops, there are exceptions of course, some are decent people trying to provide a service and uphold laws, most though are fucking power hungry pricks that think they are the law.If this entire story is to be believed with out question, then Id say these are of the latter variety.Combine that with other cops here who have been fired for testing positive for meth (he was not fired actually he quit after testing positive), 2 more that had to quit after they got caught fucking teen age girls instead of writing them a ticket, THe cop whos wife I used to smoke weed with, that her hubby took off kids, arrested them, kept half the weed and turned in the rest as evidence, The one that pulled out his notebook in court to refer to his notes in a case and dropped a bag of weed on the witness stand. Those are just LOCAL, take it to state level and there are a few in the news right now here for more shit. Cops are people, and most of them are dirty fuckers.If they run with no reign, no leash, they only serve to get further out of control. Someone has to say fuck it enough is enough and fight back.May as well be me, and if the entire story is true, it might as well be him (the OP) too.To lie down and let them shit on you is only to advance the attitude that they are always right, that they have the power, that they can do no wrong even when they are wrong.Always question authority. More and more its a police state and Bush advanced that nationally. Cops lie. Someone needs to fight back. Cops use drugs, someone needs to fight back, cops are not right just because they are cops.There are laws against unlawful detainment and stalling and making unnaturally lengthy detainment when no evidence is found to pursue the truth.Being big and tough with some kids? Fuck em. kick the shit into the street and let public opinion deal with them.There is more power in public opinion and the public is easier to sway to your side than you can ever get in a court.I know this because Iv been using it to my advantage for many years now, time and time again.Ask my local police, they fucking love me :D.WHy the fuck should they go untethered to treat people how they want when there are such a thing as basic human rights?They do what they can get away with, just like every one else, people treat people as shitty as they are allowed to do so, the only way to stop it is to not allow it.
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Being detained and questions is understandable. The manor it was handled in was bullshit. Not to mention the supposed fight was actually in the direction we were walking towards, why would we be walking from the park to the fight? Also when we moved to the side because of the speeding cop car, they told us that was running from the cops in their books and they could have taken us in for that. Its bullshit.
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I didn't read past the first few lines. Too much spouting.15 males fighting in the park and you now want someone to specifically identify these three before they are even stopped? You're absurd.So they didn't have a rosy attitude... Now sue them??.. typical American approach.
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First off, if we are going to argue this point, you will have to read my mad ass rantings in complete.I realize its boring as hell and you do not want to, I do the same thing hit a long post and go fuck it!But we can not continue this argument if you do not.second...Typical american?I fucking wish.If more people were like me then more people would stand up and expect the people we trust to uphold the fucking law they swore to defend and enforce, and to do so with a level of humanity and compassion instead of power hungry ass hole trips, every community would be a better place.
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I'm not fond of cops because many of them are crooked.But I don't hate them. They come in handy sometimes, like when your school breaks out into a big brawl between Jamaicans or Mexicans. Or when a shoot out is going on around the corner from your house.Not that I've ever experienced this or anything...