What the fuck imaginary world do you live in?"Christians will certainly try to spread the word of God, but they largely don't cause death and destruction over it."I thought you were a history buff? do not cause death over it, holy fucking christ."The Muslims believe (and behave) differently...they will do more than simply "spread their word". They will eventually try and force it on everyone; violently, if necessary."you even know any fucking muslims?you even udnerstand any of the muslims beliefs?they denounce the radicals, allah is the msulim word for god, not a new god, teh same fucking god the christians think exists.they believe in jesus, they think that he, much like mohammad is a profit (like that spelling? I know bobbo and mr U will)They do not advocate violence in any form, nor do they do fucking missionary work trying to recruit.a true muslim, fuck we should be so lucky if the christians acted the same way.I have a very good friend,f rom Jordan, a msulim, my kids call him unle Riyadh, his sister and mother are here visiting now for a month so far and 2 more months before they head home. his wife came from Jordan a year ago, they were at my sosn birthday on teh fourth of july, did fireworks with us, helped at the BBQ, brought presents, shit they send me stuff for presents for him and my wife from jordan all teh time, they know my mom, email her all the time to bullshit and talk, one of hsi brothers will be here next week for 2 weeks, another lives in virginia, another did hsi school here and went back home to make more omney, he is on his way to the states to carry out some experiment at a college university where he got his degree, as an honoured guest, I have spent numerous times with them, another of his brothers came here to hang out for 3 days while on leave from the UN army in fucking hondorous, he stayed at my house because my buddy had no room at his, slept in my house, was around my kids. I will take the muslims over the christians any fucking day.They care about how it effects them, if you are not one of them, they leave you alone, they let you believe all the shit you want to so long as you do not tell them what they have to do.Just so ya know, my buddy, he is in the fed gov, takes care of a military base near us, has a secret cleanance, did 10 years in the army, was in korea and then saudi then iraq, as a soldier.They are not anti american, they are a bit culture shocked when they wear the entire outfit and my wife sits in a pair of shorty shorts and a tank top having a smoke. aside from them thinking dogs are bad and should never be in the home or even owned, great people, unlike yourself you narrow minded toad humping bowel slurper You print this out and save it for 40 or 50 years from now, that would make me 88 and I sure as fuck do not intend to be around 50 years from now to remind you that your a paranoid sheep of the church and right wing asshole agenda.
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The world is changing...
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The Catholic church had a sordid past, but that's not all Christians and it happened a long time ago. I'm talking about here and now.Concerning Islam, you seem to have skipped a few things over...or at least the site you trust to tell you the truth skipped over them for you. Either way, you need to do some more studying to speak intelligently on it.
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So do Catholics need to be wiped off the face of earth along with the Muslims?
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Originally Posted By: OldFolksSo do Catholics need to be wiped off the face of earth along with the Muslims? Not at this time...though my opinion may change at some point. However, I should make clear that it's not the members themselves, but rather their leaders that started the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. They are the ones who may once again be "called on the carpet" at some point in the future.
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as you proceed to slam Catholics along with the Muslims, I can't help but hear this, though I were actually hearing your voice in my mind...Brothers! Oh, brothers! We have all gathered here, to preserve our hallowed culture and heritage! We aim to pull evil up by the root, before it chokes out the flower of our culture and heritage! And our women, let's not forget those ladies, y'all. Looking to us for protection! From darkies, from Jews, from papists, and from all those smart-ass folks say we come descended from monkeys!
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Originally Posted By: thor
Not at this time...though my opinion may change at some point. *hear an audience applauding*
Good to see that you're flexible.
On the matter of another Crusade or Inquisition, wouldn't the Pope (I would think), and the "UN" (Heh heh...united nations) not allow that? Seeing as there ARE indeed those international laws now?
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Originally Posted By: unsupervisedBrothers! Oh, brothers! We have all gathered here, to preserve our hallowed culture and heritage! We aim to pull evil up by the root, before it chokes out the flower of our culture and heritage! And our women, let's not forget those ladies, y'all. Looking to us for protection! From darkies, from Jews, from papists, and from all those smart-ass folks say we come descended from monkeys! O, DeathO, DeathWon't you spare me over til another yearWell what is this that I can't seeWith ice cold hands takin' hold of meWell I am death, none can excelI'll open the door to heaven or hellWhoa, death someone would prayCould you wait to call me another dayThe children prayed, the preacher preachedTime and mercy is out of your reachI'll fix your feet til you cant walkI'll lock your jaw til you cant talkI'll close your eyes so you can't seeThis very air, come and go with meI'm death I come to take the soulLeave the body and leave it coldTo draw up the flesh off of the frameDirt and worm both have a claimO, DeathO, DeathWon't you spare me over til another yearMy mother came to my bedPlaced a cold towel upon my headMy head is warm my feet are coldDeath is a-movin upon my soulOh, death how you're treatin' meYou've close my eyes so I can't seeWell you're hurtin' my bodyYou make me coldYou run my life right outta my soulOh death please consider my agePlease don't take me at this stageMy wealth is all at your commandIf you will move your icy handOh the young, the rich or poorHunger like me you knowNo wealth, no ruin, no silver no goldNothing satisfies me but your soulO, deathO, deathWont you spare me over til another yearWont you spare me over til another yearWont you spare me over til another year
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What about the Church of England and Anglicanism do we need to rid ourselves of those people as well? The killed and tortured thousands who refused to give up Catholicism. Oh, oh, then there's the Jews the tortured and murdered your messiah shouldn't they be held to account for that?Just so I know, which is the pure religion free of evil and prejudice?
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Site?so you can not read eh Thor, god of blunder?I have my information from true muslims, very close friends of mine.Being a Muslim is not being a radical or terrorist. Unless of course, your a republican. Even Muhammad Ali is a good Muslim, I do not see you crying for his head.Now, stuff your conversation up your ass. Your a brainwashed turd that needs to be flushed.Oh dear oh fuck oh my, the Muslims are ruining the world, those fucking terrorist, and the liberals too! got to stop thso fags from being married so that they have the same benefits I do!Go wretch up your propaganda on someone who is like minded and cares to hear it.
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...just means you'll go away kicking and screaming when they come for you. You'll learn....the hard way.
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I think the "they" that are coming for us are more likely to be wearing white hoods.so, are you going to answer the question? What is the one an true religion, bereft of evil?
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The sad thing is that you and your kind never will learn, you always think your right, there can be no way but yours, what you say is true and everyone else on the planet is wrong.You stir hate and discontent where it was never intended.You still think bush and chaney did a good job, that they upheld the laws despite all the evidence that they are crooked bastard who lined the wallets they own with the blood of the nations youth.You will never see anything but what you want to see.The ones I fear, the ones i fight and rally against, those ones are your kind. the ones that know they are doing gods wills, fuck the laws and our ideals, its for the greater good and under gods command.Your kind, just like the radical muslim, are nothing but terrorists.
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At Thor, Originally Posted By: OldFolksJust so I know, which is the pure religion free of evil and prejudice?Still wondering...
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Originally Posted By: unsupervised
I think the "they" that are coming for us are more likely to be wearing white hoods.
so, are you going to answer the question? What is the one an true religion, bereft of evil?
funny how he avoids the question.
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Originally Posted By: thorThe Catholic church had a sordid past, but that's not all Christians and it happened a long time ago. I'm talking about here and now.This is great, all we have to do is wait 50 years and then the Islamification of the world will be all history and then there will be nothing wrong with it!The past is completely relevant because its how the religion was spread. Its what we're discussing now and its what people were discussing a few hundred years ago. Christianity was spread throughout the world by the sword, the beginning of Christianity was a bloodbath, so you can't say that your Christianity never did it.But I have to say that we're getting a little off-topic, this isn't about Christianity's past atrocities, but what we have done here is eliminate your ridiculous argument that extremist Christians would never do what the extremist Muslims are doing. Its always a tiny percentage that do the most horrible things and they never represent the group at large.
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Originally Posted By: OldFolksAt Thor, Originally Posted By: OldFolksJust so I know, which is the pure religion free of evil and prejudice?Still wondering... None. It's a path, not a destination. The evil, in this case, is when greedy men decide to pervert the purpose of it and turn it to their own selfish desires...kind of like what would happen if you put a liberal at the head of the Catholic church. During medievil times, the Catholic church owned 1/3 of all the land in europe. God has no need for all that land, in my book. It's mens greed...not God that created the Crusades.The Muslim faith, on the other hand, instructs them to kill or convert all others that are not Muslim. It's in their book. So the religion itself is evil, in this case. There are many Muslims that are not that "into it", and so things could be a lot worse than they are. But the number of strict adherants is growing daily.
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Originally Posted By: thor
The Muslim faith, on the other hand, instructs them to kill or convert all others that are not Muslim.
I don't know that that is entirely true as I have never read the Koran (nor do I intend to), but I've read that the Koran speaks of peace. However, I have also heard that there are statements of which you speak which some take to heart literally. Something akin to the wacky snake handlers where there is a passage about taking hold of the snake.
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my Qur'an is in front of me, can you please direct me to the passage in question?
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I appears both books spout violence, it's a matter of who acts upon it.http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/03/08/dark_passages/?page=1http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.htmlhttp://www.ebonmusings.org/atheism/guestessays/islam_peace.html
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thanks. I've only read the first article so far but it kind of helps explains how the seeds of thor's hatred are to be found in his bible.