Originally Posted By: OldFolksFor instance, in my step-mothers family it was the oldest daughter that become a nun and the youngest daughter that became the hooker who got beat to death. That is at least what I would expect from your theory and I think what common sense would expect. But with the boy's it was the oldest boy, and oldest of all the siblings, that became the vagabond, drifter and petty criminal. It was, I think, second to the youngest that became the CEO and upstanding member of New Mexico society.It's more complex than I initially made it out to be...trying to keep it simple, but you're not helping. The younger ones actually evaluate the older ones and decide who to follow. Normally, they follow the next oldest one of their own gender...unless they come to the conclusion, at some point, that they're not worthy of being followed. In that case, they can end up following a different sibling, or even the parent of the same gender. That's why it can get to be such a mess trying to figure out. And if the parents and/or siblings aren't around much, it can even get more complicated...as folks outside the family can become the "role model" of choice.
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Some things should be done.
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Originally Posted By: OldFolks Originally Posted By: thorSome of the other things they shared were probably a common sense of right and wrong.One being a nun and one a hooker one a petty thief and one a successful business and family man. I have my doubts about that. Knowing right from wrong, and doing it, are two different things. A person can do something wrong while understanding that it is something wrong to do. Again, it can get to be a very complex issue.
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While I and my oldest brother are close, I am the criminal, I am the only one of the 4 thats been to jail or prison. I am the only oen that never got past the drug phase, I am also the only one that does not drink. As for drugs, pt, thats it, thats the only thing I do. We all had our days of wild drinking and random sex (not hte youngest, not the sex part anyways) I am the only one that stuck with the pot though.3 of us adopted kids that are not ours biologically.Odd thing there, all 4 of us have a child that is not ours, 3 of us have no contact with the biological father. 2 are just pieces of shit that disappeared or signed off all rights to stop child support, the other one did sign off rights, but died soon after anyways.All 4 of us have a temper and I would hate to be the fucker that pissed the four of us off as we are all adept at fighting.all of the otehr 3 are bald, have been since early 20's and the youngest had less hair at 19 than a guy that just came from the barber on day one of boot camp.number 1 and 3 tend to be laid back most the time but always willing to knock some assholes head in, number 2 seeks out confrontation daily, when he was in the air force fun time was him and his buddies heading to the bars to see how many people they could knock the dog shit out of in a single night before closing time. #4 is always willing to fight, loves to show off boxing abilities, but does not seek it out, as much as he watches for a chance to do it.I have never had a single fight with number 1, but fought daily through my mid 20s with number 2, excluding his time in the air force when he was gone.Me and number 1 go backpacking together, hiking, cross country skiing and till utah ran the game to shit and destroyed it, hunted together and still fish together when possible.with my own kids the oldest is the best kid a parent could ask for, always anxious to help, always trying to avoid conflict, happy and fun to be around.THe youngest, more like me.Iv been called to school many times because he fucked someone up. He knows the rules, I do not care if you get in a fight so long as you did not start it. Iv gotten in to many arguments with cops and parents because he put kids in the hospital with concussions and broken jaws, all the way back to grade school.Now in sophomore year of high school, I still go to school because he broke someones arm or leg. to date its alwasy been a bully, last 2 years its been some punk ass little jugalo gang bangers, 3 times 3 or more of them jumped him and he left missing teeth and broken bones in them. Each time has led to parents coming after me, and me having to knock the shit out of them. He is outgoing, loves drama (acting class, not the drama in his life) has worked for 2 years now as a clown in the haunted house, played Bball for years, now in to wrestling, and made varsity team in his 2nd year, youngest kid on the school team. Difference between these 2 is night and day.THe youngest is 6. Wants to be like the middle kid, imitates him and loads his ipod with the same music my older one has, wants teh same clothes and shoes and hair. If he says something the youngest takes it as word form god and imitates it till the end.The older two have been aroudn to see me knock the shit out of people, see dad so drunk he had to crawl to the bathroom to piss, and so far, or at least to the best of my knowledge, have avoided booze in any form, and drugs as well, but know my stance on MJ. We recently had a big problem with the school as the one in high school wrote a research paper on why its illegal and how the DARE program has lied to kids about its dangers and why it should be legal. THe assignment was to write a story about how the media portrays things wrong and misleads the public, little bastard made me proud. They also know that I do not support them using it as they are too young to use, and it is illegal and the penalties are stiff. They also know that once they grow up and the bullshit ends, I have no problem smoking a fat one with them.parents and siblings have a great effect on childrens outcomes, so do peers. 2 people can have the same parents and the same experiences and how they perceive it makes them both take away different things from it.Nurture has a great deal to do with the final outcome but not 100%
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For one, I think most if not all censoring should be gotten rid of.
hmm... beg to differ. I knew curse words when I was younger but my mom would beat the hell out of me for saying it. So I stuck with cartoons cause the more I heard the word the more I was prone to saying it based off of what I watched. Also, I was abrasive when I was younger. I used to tell my friends "DON'T CURSE!" like... all the time. But we called each other "negro" more than we actually said our names.
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And you can't argue about the context the words being used in because you can say that about anything. Being rude is being rude regardless of what words you use. Saying you're a poo face you're going to heck and your parents smell like a donkey is going to be insulting even without your precious censor words.
Eh. I definitely fine more enjoyment and humor in calling my friend's poo face than I do sh*t face. But wes jus sillies lyk dat...
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I've never once heard fuck on the radio. But I've heard, Ass, Bitch, Shit, Damn. Why censor one but not the rest? But then again why censor any, why not just teach your kids to be polite. Instead of saying you can say frick but not fuck and heck but not hell, just don't have them say anything like that or let them say the damn word instead of a bastardized version of it that technically defeats the purpose.
You sound like it personally offends you lol. Don't go to college campuses then. They jack up the entire dictionary and those words that have yet to come into existence... O_o
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Another issue that needs to be dealt with is Teenaged sex. Being a teenager I can tell you. If I want to fuck your daughter, and she wants it, It will happen. Sorry but there's not a damn thing you can do about it. There never was and there never will be.
Um right. Except she'll get the crap beat out of her (or in my case "I'm gonna beat the blackness off you!") and you'll be beat to a bloody pulp... well I guess depending on the family. You're never too old for a beat down. So.. temporary pleasure.... hot leather marking up your skin...pass lol.
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I mean personally, If I had a daughter, I'd much rather buy her some B.C and some condoms than have to give her extra support as well as support her child and possibly find a way to pay hospital bills because she caught something because she snuck off and had unprotected sex. (which some girls have tried to do with me but I refused.)
So THIS is why the teen pregnancy rate is off the charts...
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Even if you were to keep sensory, there's not reason for Hell to be a censored word. There's no reason to Bleep out one curse word in a song if you're going to keep the other 9000.
Personally, I appreciate sensory in many songs because when I listen to a song that I know I'm gonna perform to or just bump at a party or friends house, I'd rather not have all the unnecessary cursing. In many songs the cursing is really just unnecessary and they pretty much say it to say it. It's stupid, imo. Even though I was raised not to curse aka under the belt, even on my own and just with friends, hearing someone curse especially excessively just sounds really obnoxious and even makes them sound pretty stupid... that's just me though.