Makes one wonder when Obama

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is going to get off his ass.

I'm moving to Nebraska!!

I said the same thing about Bush.....But with Obama I have hope and with enough time (it hasn't even been a year yet for heaven sake!!) he'll follow through.

singingPessimistic..... REALISTS, as you claim to be, would realize that change on such a scale takes quite an amount of time. I have hope too, and it seems to be better than the 10-xx (double digits) it was at a couple months ago, yes? But no, we can't see the good in it. That'd be TERRIBLE. AHA! But wait, that's SEPETEMBER's data. I think a bit has changed since then...just letting you know. It's much better to use current data to make a point. And welcome back. Missed you. ♥

You know what makes me wonder?When conservative republicans stir shit that they don't even know a fuck about!!!

I wondered where you had got to, thor!Unemployment figures usually lag well behind other indicators like stock market indices. Employers are slow to let people go until it is clear the downturn is not a blip; they then are slow to take them up again until it is quite clear the pick-up will be sustained.Their caution is justified, because most previous recessions have been slow to recover: the fall is steep, but the rise is very slow and uncertain. That this one has not become a Great Depression scenario I ascribe to world leaders' readiness this time for stimulus measures (not always well-planned, but that is difficult to do in haste, and haste was required). It is now standard economics that governments should act counter-cyclically, but the US had the added difficulty that previous administrations had run up large deficits in boom times, when they should have been saving.I am however not optimistic about the future. China and India are developing rapidly, and the issue of oil supplies has not been solved. The GFC gave a temporary respite, but it is going to return. It looks like we are now close to peak oil. 'Developing' countries are now responsible for over half of world GDP, so the old order of an economic world dominated by North America and Europe is changing.That map was interesting, though. Why is unemployment so low in the great plains? It is because everyone is farming, which continues regardless? Why are people not moving there?

Whoa, what an educated, much-sense-making idea...I refuse to believe it, because it must be the work of brainwashing that makes you think so.

Originally Posted By: IneligibleThat map was interesting, though. Why is unemployment so low in the great plains? It is because everyone is farming, which continues regardless? Why are people not moving there? LOL why not? Becasue it a desolate unpopulated area... with lots of farming as you said. I'll pass on moving there.

Originally Posted By: IneligibleWhy is unemployment so low in the great plains? It is because everyone is farming, which continues regardless? Why are people not moving there? Speaking for Oklahoma and this greater region, first and for most it's because there was never a run up in real estate value that allowed people to borrow against the equity they had built up. There simply was no housing bubble here. The growth in home values has remained relatively steady throughout the downturn in the economy. Second and probably of equal importances the economies here are commodity based. Relative to the rest of the economy, oil, grain and feeder cattle have not crashed. Understand, that's not to say they haven't slumped but rather the bottom hasn't fallen out or if it fell out at all it was only temporary and reactionary. Things being stable here is not always the case. In the late 90s when the rest of country was raking in profits during the dot com boom this region was on the edge of bankruptcy. Commodity prices where so low oil companies and cow men all over where going bankrupt and shutting down. The state governments where even furloughing and cutting back on service many smaller county and city governments shut down all together and have never reopened.Now, none of that made the news but the important parts of the country had it good so none of it mattered anyway. As of August the last time I saw any numbers the unemployment in Oklahoma was 5.1%. I believe it's now somewhere in the upper 6's.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself

I said the same thing about Bush.....

But with Obama I have hope and with enough time (it hasn't even been a year yet for heaven sake!!) he'll follow through.

Sorry, but it seems that he's decided to spend what little time he's had so far by pushing a health bill that the public doesn't want through congress. That, and pushing taxpayer-funded corporate welfare through there as well...almost a trillion dollars of it. Seems that "the people" just aren't high enough on his priority list...for some strange reason. I guess some things are more important than others. But you keep hoping. :wink:

Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfI said the same thing about Bush.....But with Obama I have hope and with enough time (it hasn't even been a year yet for heaven sake!!) he'll follow through. Sorry, but it seems that he's decided to spend what little time he's had so far by pushing a health bill that the public doesn't want through congress. That, and pushing taxpayer-funded corporate welfare through there as well...almost a trillion dollars of it. Seems that "the people" just aren't high enough on his priority list...for some strange reason. I guess some things are more important than others. But you keep hoping. I think its a bit extreme to say the public doesn't want health care. There are quite a few people who would more than welcome health care. Health Care reform has been long over due in this country.

Right. Cause who wants health care? pssht. I sure don't.Get off your asses, you poor people, who cares if you can't afford your damn medical bills! Suck it up! STDs ain't real. And AIDs sure as heck ain't real either. It's all a figment of your imagination.What the heck is Obama thinking?

Very nice post abs, very nice indeed.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself

Health Care reform has been long over due in this country.

So is the small-pox, but I'm not wishing that one on us either.

This kind of health care puts the decision in the hands of the government...and if you trust them to handle it with efficiency and integrity, you are as blind as a bat. Things will get worse...not better.

Interesting how people all loosing their jobs, something he helped cause to happen, plays into his agenda of pushing socialized medicine onto the populace. I don't believe in coincidences like that.

Quote:I don't believe in coincidences like that. Of course you don't.. because everything is a conspiracy.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14

Right. Cause who wants health care? pssht. I sure don't.

What the heck is Obama thinking?
Your post made me think of this...

_Like Hell I'm Going To Let Some Black President Help Me Pay For Dialysis

By Dan Laird
November 24, 2009 | Issue 45•48

I take pride in who I am. Always have, always will. I've worked hard my whole life and have never taken anyone's charity, and I'm not about to start now, no matter what. I'm telling you, there's no way I'm going to sit back and let some black president of the United States try to devise a structure to help me pay for the dialysis treatment I so desperately need to survive.

Not over my dead body.

Just who does this Afro-American occupant of the highest office in the land think he is, anyway? Look, I've got nothing against black people, but some of them act like the whole world owes them something. For example, important government subsidies on my dialysis.

You know, I don't recall asking for some black commander in chief to embrace protections that would prohibit insurance companies from dropping my coverage on a whim and operating as if my continued existence on earth were nothing more than a strategic liability. Plus, if I go along with this progressive health-benefits scheme, he'll probably hold it over my head every time I receive vital care with the aid of the government to which I already pay taxes.

Sorry. I've got too much self-respect for that.

Obama needs to know that there's still one American willing to watch his body drown in its own deadly internal toxins rather than have long-overdue reform crammed down his throat.

Fact is, nobody wants some too-big-for-his-britches black president butting in to suggest that everyone, including me, needs to be treated with dignity. Yet this Obama thinks he can just waltz in and and tinker with a health care system that destroys people like myself every single day.

Can you imagine what'd it be like if he weren't just half black?

Seriously, when Obama's done drumming up support for legislation that might allow me to see my daughter graduate from college and prevent me from dying before my 50th birthday, what's next on the agenda? Will he try to keep my life's savings from evaporating in a stock market that operates free of serious governmental oversight? Is there any aspect of capitalism run amok that this guy won't tamper with? Really, Obama, thanks but no thanks. The last person I need help from is some black leader of the federal government in a position to perhaps improve my quality of life.

The worst part is that I'll have to put up with this guy being a black president for at least three more years. I guess all I can do is try to hold out for the 2012 election. Maybe then we'll get a white president back in office. Maybe he'll have the common decency to let me suffer in peace._

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself... because everything is a comspiracy. Comspiracy. Freudian slip?

Originally Posted By: OldFolks Originally Posted By: JapanFan14Right. Cause who wants health care? pssht. I sure don't.What the heck is Obama thinking? Your post made me think of this...Like Hell I'm Going To Let Some Black President Help Me Pay For Dialysis I wondered how long it would take for somebody to try and play the race card.

Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself... because everything is a comspiracy. Comspiracy. Freudian slip? Nope just one of my famous typos... coNspiracy..

Hmm, the people don't want it, yet polls are split down the middle? The governments going to completely run it, when the bill says one will get the OPTION, not mandate, to switch to fed. care after a certain benchmark in salaries.

Someone needs to read more, and watch less commun--er, Fox News.