The Bible Told Me So.

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Originally Posted By: JapanFan14...I've experienced discrimination from other Christians because of my race, ethnicity, language, background, heck even age :coughthorcough:. Get used to it. Folks who are significantly older and who are much more experienced in life will usually consider themselves a bit wiser that folks who are less than half their age and have less experience. It's realistic, and you will most likely feel exactly the same way when you're my age. I'd bet the farm on it. The younger person who is wise would likely spend a bit more time considering the words of somebody older rather than quickly dismissing their ideas simply because they don't jive with what they read on the internet or what they heard in some classroom with a liberal teacher who has an agenda to push.BTW, I don't mean this to sound harsh. Just straight up and to the point. I happen to agree with your attitude about it being centered around a relationship with Christ, and not about what some yahoo in a church tells you to believe.

Complete and utter crap. How in the world do you expect someone to take you seriously?I'm speaking in regards to Christianity.You're so full of it. Please, get your head out of your behind. I don't know your world and you sure as heck don't know mine so please do me a favor and stop acting like you know it all cause you don't.

Originally Posted By: unsupervisedPolitics is the driving force behind all organised religion. All of it, no exceptions.Nope. You are wrong. Dead wrong. It is both a temptation and a trap that there exists this natural tendancy...but if you understood Christianity at all, you'd undestand that part of what it is about is to fight these kind of tendancies. It is true that politics plays a big part in many churches...but it is also true that there are many Christian churches (I can't speak for other kinds) where it plays NO PART AT ALL! You, as an athiest, deny such churches exist...I, as a Christian, tell you that they do. Though we both serve to gain by being correct, I am the only one (between the two of us) who is in a postion to know. You, as an athiest, haven't a clue.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14Complete and utter crap. How in the world do you expect someone to take you seriously?I'm speaking in regards to Christianity.You're so full of it. Please, get your head out of your behind. I don't know your world and you sure as heck don't know mine so please do me a favor and stop acting like you know it all cause you don't. Please go back and read what I wrote...then read what you wrote. I never said I know it all...but it seems that you think you do. Interesting...but not unusual for someone of your age. Same thing's been happening each generation for thousands of years. The latest generation always thinks they're smarter than all the ones before. Then their kids play the same number on them...the cycle repeats. And...each generation, when they get a little older and more experienced, realizes they were full of it when they were younger. As the Bible says, there is nothing new under the sun.

Did a bunch of teenagers pick on you? Did you have some rough years when you were younger? Are your grandchildren or children not communicating with you?
Interesting, my mother knows exactly what I'm talking about and completely knows how to relate. Heck my mother is who I learn from. Are you really this narrow-minded? You sound like you have no idea what I'm talking about.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14Did a bunch of teenagers pick on you? Did you have some rough years when you were younger? Are your grandchildren or children not communicating with you?None of the above. I'm just a very obervant person and remember very well what I and my pears were like when we were kids. I'm also the oldest of the oldest on both sides of the family, so I've had a ringside seat to watch all my cousins grow up. The youngest is the same age as you, believe it or not. Same cycle...over and over again. But each younger generation thinks they're the first ones who "get it all". Then they grow up and find out otherwise. Next generation, same thing...over and over and over again. Nothing new under the sun. Quote:Interesting, my mother knows exactly what I'm talking about and completely knows how to relate. Heck my mother is who I learn from. Are you really this narrow-minded? You sound like you have no idea what I'm talking about. I'm glad you learn from your mother. As a parent (if you go that path some day), you will (hopefully) realize that you must be a parent first...a friend second. But a person doesn't have to be your parent, or even a friend, to be able to understand. Understanding and identifying/empathizing/validating are not the same thing.

Quote:None of the above. I'm just a very obervant person and remember very well what I and my pears were like when we were kids. I'm also the oldest of the oldest on both sides of the family, so I've had a ringside seat as all my cousins grow up. The youngest is the same age as you, believe it or not. Same cycle...over and over again. But each younger generation things they're the first ones who "get it all". Then they grow up and find out otherwise. Next generation, same thing...over and over and over again. Nothing new under the sun.Um.. thor... I can guarantee you that your childhood was NOTHING like mine... please don't even attempt to make a comparison.... Quote:I'm glad you learn from your mother. As a parent (if you go that path some day), you will (hopefully) realize that you must be a parent first...a friend second. But a person doesn't have to be your parent, or even a friend, to be able to understand. Understanding and identifying/empathizing/validating are not the same thing.Funny, because you don't understand me. Not one bit. You know nothing about me and yet you feel the need to criticize merely because of my age. Something wrong there.

Originally Posted By: JapanFan14 Quote:None of the above. I'm just a very obervant person and remember very well what I and my pears were like when we were kids. I'm also the oldest of the oldest on both sides of the family, so I've had a ringside seat as all my cousins grow up. The youngest is the same age as you, believe it or not. Same cycle...over and over again. But each younger generation things they're the first ones who "get it all". Then they grow up and find out otherwise. Next generation, same thing...over and over and over again. Nothing new under the sun.Um.. thor... I can guarantee you that your childhood was NOTHING like mine... please don't even attempt to make a comparison....I wasn't comparing your childhood to mine...if you understood what I was talking about, you'd understand that already. My point was that this phenomenon I refer to is across all generations, walks of life and cultures. It's universal. Sorry, but this is one aspect of your youth that is not unique. And just in case you're still too focussed on yourself and what makes you so different, THE SAME CONCEPT APPLIED TO ME WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE!..as it does for most likely everyone on this board. It has nothing to do with you personally or what situation you're born into.

Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: unsupervisedPolitics is the driving force behind all organised religion. All of it, no exceptions.Nope. You are wrong. Dead wrong. It is both a temptation and a trap that there exists this natural tendancy...but if you understood Christianity at all, you'd undestand that part of what it is about is to fight these kind of tendancies. It is true that politics plays a big part in many churches...but it is also true that there are many Christian churches (I can't speak for other kinds) where it plays NO PART AT ALL! You, as an athiest, deny such churches exist...I, as a Christian, tell you that they do. Though we both serve to gain by being correct, I am the only one (between the two of us) who is in a postion to know. You, as an athiest, haven't a clue. in your own statements, you prove my point!"I can't speak for other kinds""I, as a Christian,""I am the only one"are you so blind?

Originally Posted By: unsupervised Originally Posted By: thor Originally Posted By: unsupervisedPolitics is the driving force behind all organised religion. All of it, no exceptions.Nope. You are wrong. Dead wrong. It is both a temptation and a trap that there exists this natural tendancy...but if you understood Christianity at all, you'd undestand that part of what it is about is to fight these kind of tendancies. It is true that politics plays a big part in many churches...but it is also true that there are many Christian churches (I can't speak for other kinds) where it plays NO PART AT ALL! You, as an athiest, deny such churches exist...I, as a Christian, tell you that they do. Though we both serve to gain by being correct, I am the only one (between the two of us) who is in a postion to know. You, as an athiest, haven't a clue. in your own statements, you prove my point!"I can't speak for other kinds""I, as a Christian,""I am the only one"are you so blind? So...how does this equate to there being politics in ALL churches again?

If you really believed, thor, that folks who are significantly older and more experienced in life are wiser and should be listened to, you would do so yourself. You don't. Since you don't do it yourself, it's hypocritical humbug to expect others to do it to you.

HEY, who are you calling old there grampa?!

Originally Posted By: IneligibleIf you really believed, thor, that folks who are significantly older and more experienced in life are wiser and should be listened to, you would do so yourself. You don't. Since you don't do it yourself, it's hypocritical humbug to expect others to do it to you. I believe (not sure) you're the only one who might be older than me, for starters. But if you read what I wrote instead of creating a strawman arguement, I said it bears serious consideration (or words to that effect). I also did not say that older folks couldn't learn anything from younger folks, or that it's always true, all the time. I spoke in general...you speak in specifics. What I said is generally correct. What you said is of dubious value.

I'd just like to say that I do listen to others and make my own opinions. You will most likely say that I don't but I do. I had somthing else I was going to say but I forgot. LOL

Just perhaps, thor, those you chide for not respecting their elders and betters might, after serious consideration, have also made a specific exception.

Originally Posted By: IneligibleJust perhaps, thor, those you chide for not respecting their elders and betters might, after serious consideration, have also made a specific exception. Could be. The real question is not if, but why.