okay i found a site that explains why and when circumcision became a commonly practiced medical procedure in the united states but it is very long so i won't put it up here but you can go to the site and read it for yourself (most of the info is on page two of the report) this is the address of which to go (listen carefully) http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/1998/10/26feature.html yup that's it. sorry about the other story.
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How many people are cut and uncut?
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I posted, in this thread (above), a link to another Salon article, and a footnoted article from the Journal of Social History that backs it up.Thank you for your clarification. Unfortunately, focus swallowed the funky story hook, line, and sinker, and he won't be disabused of the idea.
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Steve - your obnoxious post has really managed to piss me off. You're lucky you're hiding begind the security of a keyboard - somehow I don't think you would have the balls to say that crap to my face.
I'm here to help people with their questions. You apparently are here to attack people and their opinions, while providing absolutely no value to this forum. You're a very negative, bitter person. I feel sorry for you.
I can't believe you have nearly 4,000 posts here - of WHAT??
I told you to drop it, and you didn't. Why? Are you that immature and insecure that you always have to get the last word in? Grow up.
I'm extremely offended that you called me a neo-nazi, and an apology is certainly in order. But I'm not expecting one from you since you don't have the tact to apologize.
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somehow I don't think you would have the balls to say that crap to my face.Extrapolating people's personalities from their posting is a no-op. I can guarantee you one thing: there is nothing I have posted here that I wouldn't say to someone's face, and that is absolutely true for anything I said to you. Believe it. What are you going to do, slug me?> I'm here to help people with their questions.And you do a fantastic job in the penis department. When you drift to other topics, it gets a little weird, and when you pontificate on the Jewish Problem, it gets outrageous. Have you read what you typed?> You're a very negative, bitter person. I feel sorry for you.Thank you for your concern, but the thing I feel most bitter about is bigotry and prejudice.> I told you to drop it, and you didn't. Why? Are you that immature and insecure that you always have to get the last word in? Grow up.And was your last outburst/posting a demonstration of your maturity and superiority? You just keep getting in deeper with the neo-nazi stuff. I can't for the life of me understand it.> I'm extremely offended that you called me a neo-nazi, and an apology is certainly in order. But I'm not expecting one from you since you don't have the tact to apologize.Go re-read the definition of anti-Semite. You are one. I called you on it. There's nothing for me to apologize for. You should be ashamed of yourself. Absolutely ashamed. You're not a Jew hater like Soviet_Guy; you're far worse: someone who for all intents and purposes seems like a normal person, but tosses off racist nonsense, as if you're talking about interests rates.Your Jewish doctor story has no basis in reality, but you believe it because it lines up with your bigoted views:In reply to:I accept it because its true - Jews have control or tremendous influence and power in the U.S. government, legal system, Hollywood & the media, and medical practice.I show you information to the contrary, you can't back up the canard, but you still won't back down. And then you add more obnoxious stuff. I didn't tell you I believe you're an anti-Semite "because it's true". I explained why you're an anti-Semite. Actually, you did, yourself.How do you look your Jewish friends in the eye?
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Uncut... i love my skin... is just... my skin.... i can't imagine myself without it..
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SteveA - If you've got any balls, then lets take this elsewhere and discuss this further. PM me or e-mail me. I can shred you there. I don't want to get banned from this site from arguing with you. You're not even close to worth it. Let's just say when it comes to message board debating, you're an amateur and out of your league here. And for the record, before we take this off line, let it be known that you have thus far called me:- Anti-semtic- A Neo Nazi- A bigot- A Jew hater- A racistYou called me all that after the only things I said were:- The Jewish doctor thing with circumcision in America may have some truth to it (I never said it was the ONLY influence, but it may be one of many).- I stated the fact that Jewish people control most of the media, the legal system, the medical system, and have strong influence in the U.S. government. That's a fact, not an opinion. And I didn't say anything bad about it, I just stated the fact. You don't like those facts?? So, when you're ready, lets continue this debate via chat or e-mail.
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If you don't see any issue at all with what you said, then I don't think there's any point to it. Having balls has nothing to do with it. This is not a wrestling match.I recommend that you discuss it with others, who might be better than I am at pointing out why what you said raises such a big, red flag.You can argue about whether this is or that belongs on this forum, but I don't think bigotry has any place here. That's why my hair's on fire. If someone posted something offensive about blacks or gays or Moslems, I'd feel exactly the same way. Even if you don't think what you said is bigoted, I hope you understand why I'm all bent out of shape. This discussion gives me no pleasure at all.
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In reply to:
This discussion gives me no pleasure at all.
Then why the hell do you insist, once again, upon dragging it out till kingdom come?
Sheesh...
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Then why the hell do you insist, once again, upon dragging it out till kingdom come?You've been jumping in a lot lately with behavior critiques. Are you the new conscience of the forum?I don't enjoy washing the dishes either, know what I mean?
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In reply to: You've been jumping in a lot lately with behavior critiques. Are you the new conscience of the forum? Yes, I am. I was wondering if my badge was big enough to be seen.
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I'll join in. Steve man just stop it. I've suggested that this rant and rave and endless debate about stuff needs to stop. Just seems like you've got to get the last word in on everything....its a waste of time and good space on the site. There is simply no need in continuing the endless debate about things you disagree with. Just let things go and don't get Focus all worked up...he's been around here a long long time and knows what he's talking about. You're the one that raised all the neo-natzi stuff. Geez man, just let it go.
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I was cut at birth because I was born with a twisted foreskin. Most of my friends are uncut although I know several other blokes (a couple of moslems and a jew, amongst them) who are also cut.In response to the cleanliness issue, having a foreskin should not make it any more difficult to keep your penis clean yet many thousands of males (usually preteen) are admitted to hospital every year across the UK and the USA precisely because they haven't cleaned their penis carefully enough. If you have a foreskin, you do need to make very slightly more of an effort although many hundreds of millions of males don't seem to have any problem doing that.
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he's been around here a long long time and knows what he's talking about. You're the one that raised all the neo-natzi stuff. Geez man, just let it go.Are you nuts? He knows what he's talking about when discussing foreskins, or he knows what he's talking about when he dicusses the "problem with Jews"? Does being around here for a long time give one licenses to post bigoted nonsense as fact, and go unchallenged? Longevity does not equal correctness. In a civilized place, bigotry cannot go unchallenged. Are people only sensitive when their own ox is being gored?And why does everyone who complains about people getting in the last word always have to get in the last word?
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What is a twisted foreskin? Does that mean that it looked like there was no way it would ever retract?
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> And getting the last word isn't the most important thing.
Well, then, it's a good thing you didn't just post! :wink:
I knew you couldn't resist adding to the general noise level. :wink: He was pulling rank, you know. :wink:
OK, go ahead, have the last word! :wink:
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Thanks for the vote there...actually, I was a moderartor on this site a while back. I resigned for lots of reasons, got too busy..and because of something just like whats going on now. I'll just be a member!
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Just a mod
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how do u become a mod or an administrator?
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I was asked.
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In the U.S. the majority of boys born are still cut. I know when I was in high school, it was tough being the only uncut guy, but now in my 20's I am thankful for the intact forskin. I have yet to have a partner that has ever been with another uncut guy, so a few times it has been funny to see the facial expression. One of my first girlfriends thought there was something wrong with me, since she knew nothing about circumcision at the time. I got a big laugh out of that.