Driving Citations

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He anyone here gotten a ticket with you had your permit? My little borther got one today.

haha!!! Really? For what? I never was pulled over with my permit. I thought I was going to during drivers training (Before I got my permit )... The instructor was letting me race people. She was laughing and thought it was cool

Close. When I was taking the road test for my operator's license, I started going the wrong way on a busy road. I had to do a great job parallel parking to make up for that stunt.

In some states, you can lose your license if you're busted for underage drinking. It all depends on which state you're in.

In any case, I'm glad you brother's not on my insurance policy.

Speeding. 60mph in a 45mph zone. My Dad doesn't care though, he found it funny. Do tickets with your permit effect insureance the same way when you have your liscense?

I'm out of my depth here, but I'm pretty sure it's the same whether you have a driver's or operator's permit. In some states (like Massachusetts), if you get more than a certain number of speeding tickets in a certain period (like 4 in 3 years), your license gets suspended, so tell your brother not to get more tickets. If I were him, I'd fight the one that he got...it's not a done deal yet.If he was going more than 20 MPH over the speed limit, it might be a bigger deal. But it depends on your state's laws.

It all depends on the state you live in. My friends have gotten tickets with a permit and their insureance was higher then mine. In MN if you get 3 (moving violations) in a year, your licence is suspended. Same with 5 in 3 years. I have 6 in 5 years 73-55, 72-55 in the same weekend, 84-55 had to go to court for that one, 79-55, 65-55, and a 65-45, All in different countys. My insurance only has one on my record,(the 84-55) I am not sure what happend to the rest. I also got a DWI when I was 18, lost my licence for 6 months. And a seat belt ticket for riding on top of a car when I was 15.

I know a guy who only has his permit and he had it suspended for several reasons 1> drag rasing 2> making an illegal u-turn 3> driving with open containers of alcohol in his car and 4> driving 70 in a 55 mph zoneDid that stop him from driving? No, not at all. Of course a week later he totaled his mustange (he made yet another illegal u-turn in very heavy traffic) so maybe (I hope) he's learned his leason, but probably not.

In reply to:driving with open containers of alcohol in his carIn some states, this alone is enough to get your license suspended if you're under 18 (or 21?).It sounds like your friend's parents are out to lunch.

Its So Cali bro.... They will raise the rates ... My dad also thought it was funny when I got my ticket.

Well in Texas we have a 7 step program before you can actually get your license if you are under the age of 18. Step 1 Completion of Driver Education Course Step 2 Practice for the written test Step 3 Scheduling the appointment with the Texas Driver License Office (Optional) Step 4 What to bring and what to expect at the office Step 5 Upon completion of the written test Step 6 Phase One Provisional License Step 7 Phase Two Provisional License Step 1 - Completion of Driver Education Course You must complete an approved driver education course before being licensed in Texas . All applicants under 18 years of age require driver’s education certificate of completion. Texas has also implemented Parent Taught Driver Education Program. The Parent Taught Driver Education Program requires students to acquire the essential knowledge, skills and experience to perform reduced-risk practices in the total traffic environment. The Parent Taught State-Approved Driver Education Program is available to teenagers between the ages of 14 and 17. However, before the instructor (parent, stepparent, grandparent, step-grandparent, or legal guardian) begins teaching this course, the instructor must have a valid TEXAS driver license. Step 2 - Practice for the written test (optional) Take PRACTICE TESTS online to get used to the language and format of the actual test. To learn the state-specific regulations, please refer to the State Driver's Handbook. Step 3 - Scheduling the appointment with the Texas Driver License Office (Optional) Step 4 - What to bring and what to expect at the office Be at least 15 years old. Bring proof of age and identification. Give your Social Security Number. Pay a fee of $5.00 A person under age 18 must show proof of driver education. You must provide proof that you: Have obtained a high school diploma or its equivalent; or Are a student enrolled in a public or private school who attended school for at least 80 days in the fall or spring semester preceding the date of application; or Have been enrolled for at least 45 days, and are currently enrolled in a program to prepare persons to pass the high school equivalency exam. The Texas Education Agency has developed an attendance certification form that you must obtain from your respective school. Have the school officials complete and sign it, and then present it to the Drivers License personnel when you are applying for or renewing your driver’s license. Pass a vision test. Pass a written road rules and road signs knowledge test Step 5 - Upon completion of the written test You will be issued an Instructional Permit. This is a permit issued without a photograph for the purpose of permitting a student driver to legally practice when accompanied by a licensed driver, who is at least 18 years of age and has had at least one year driving experience and who is occupying the seat beside the driver. Step 6 - Phase One Provisional License You must be sixteen (16) years old with a Driver Education Completion Certificate or 15 with approval of minor’s hardship application. Hold an instruction permit or hardship license for a minimum of six months. The instruction permit must remain valid during the mandatory six-month period to meet this regulation. If an instruction permit is suspended/revoked during this period, upon the completion of the suspension period, the remaining six-month period must be completed to meet the GDL Phase One requirement. All original licenses, issued to persons under 18 years of age will be marked "Provisional." The license will be vertical and will be dated to expire on the applicant's 18th birthday or next birthday occurring after the date of issuance. A fee is required to obtain this license. The renewal fee is required for each one year of renewal period. No renewal notice will be sent as it is the responsibility of the applicant to obtain a verification of enrollment and attendance from their school. If the instruction permit or driver license is not due for renewal, a fee is required for a duplicate instruction permit or duplicate license (i.e. lost license, change of address, removal of GDL restrictions). Step 7 - Phase Two Provisional License Once the applicant has held a valid instruction permit or hardship license for a minimum of six months, has reached the age of 17 years for a Class A or B non-CDL), and has completed both the classroom and laboratory (driving) portions of driver education, they are eligible to "graduate" to Phase Two. Phase Two restricts the driving privileges of persons under 18 years of age during the six-month period following the issuance of an original Class A, B, or C driver license (Provisional License). The restrictions are: May not operate a motor vehicle with more than one passenger in the vehicle under the age of 21 who is not a family member. May not operate a motor vehicle between midnight and 5:00 a.m. unless the operation of the vehicle is necessary for the operator to attend or participate in employment or a school-related activity or because of a medical emergency. The license restriction will state, " TRC 545.424 applies until MM DD YY " and will indicate the date in which the second phase of the graduated driver license expires for the person who holds that license. Upon completion of the six-month period, the above time and/or passenger restrictions no longer apply. The licensee may wish to apply for a duplicate license at a driver license office to remove this restriction. A fee is required to obtain a duplicate license. If not, this restriction will be removed at the time the applicant renews the license on their next birthday, provided the Phase Two six-month time has lapsed.

There is no point of fighting it. It isn't worth my Dad's time no matter how long it takes. Plus, how do you fight a speeding ticket?I know they raise your insurance prices, I was just wondering if it was the same if you had a permit.

In reply to:how do you fight a speeding ticket?Generally, on the ticket, you check the box that says "I request a hearing", rather than the box that says "Please punish me, for I am guilty". You've just bought yourself as many as several months. Then, when the date comes up, you can try to reschedule just before the magistrate hearing, if they'll let you. Now you bought yourself even more time. Then you appear before a magistrate, and, in most locales, a representative of the police department has to show up (not necessarily the officer who wrote the citation). If you show up but they don't, the ticket will be dismissed. If they do, don't say anything stupid. Be nice and, if you perceive that you weren't really speeding, say, "I wasn't speeding", and request a hearing before a judge. Now you've bought yourself a couple more months, and the magistrate may offer you a deal that you may like (I'd be a lot more concerned about the points than the fine). Then the day comes for you to appear before a judge. If the officer who wrote the ticket doesn't show up (day off, illness, scheduling conflict, whatever), the ticket will be dismissed. If he does show up, you're probably screwed. If you act like a jerk, the judge can really hose you. If you're nice, he may reduce the fine. Then you pay it, as if you were going to pay it many months earlier. All you've lost is some time, at the worst.Remember, the longer you drag it out, the more likely the officer won't show up in court.If you really want to win the ticket in court, you'd better study the statues, and what lawyers do, before going. Or even better, bring a lawyer. In places like Texas, it's a big industry. There are lots of lawyers who just deal with traffic court issues, and their fee is much less than the fine plus insurance surcharge.

Sorry not to have answered your real question in that long post.I'd ask someone in the DMV; if they can't help, I'd contact a lawyer and ask if it's worth fighting the ticket; he'll probably tell you for free what the consequences will be if you don't. If you're really ambitious, go to your nearest law library (there are lots of 'em around LA) or major public library, and look up the appropriate statute.Disclaimer: on an Internet forum, I'd be skeptical of medical advice. I'd be even more skeptical of legal advice.

Contacting our family lawyer would cost more than the ticket.

You don't need a high-end 90210 lawyer to fight a traffic ticket. Look in the phone book and see if there's a lawyer in the area who specializes in traffic issues. That's how it works in Texas...not sure about California. But California gives you a lot of flexibility in fighting traffic citations that places like Massachusetts don't.

I wouldn't fight it. I didn't fight mine. My only chance was if the CHP officer didn't show up, and I wasn't going to risk it (Go to court and fight it, you cant take traffic school)

Yup, in Texas you get one shot at driving school...like a get-out-of-jail-free card. Massachusetts isn't quite so enlightened, so I was always in fight mode. Still wound up in bad driver school...couldn't drive 55.