Im ugly and want to have sex/get laid with a girl

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right. im not goin to beat around the bush here. im a guy of 25, and im REALLY ugly as hell. and no i havent ever had a girlfriend, and i was never even close to. i know im ugly because in the past ive had loads and loads of hints and insults from damn uptight shallow btches, in secondary school, college, uni and the public. ive been called it all, examples of painful comments i remember from the girls:- "ergh hes f***** rough"- "no i dont think so" after her bitch friend asked her (taking the p***)- "hahaha him?!! hahaha"- "oh my god" (complete with repulse look)- "e's well mingin!"- repulsed looks- etc etc etcive had many more insults of corse, but i wont be mentioning them (theres too many). so if anyone here wants to say "im sure ur not ugly" then DONT. i AM UGLY.im sick and im f****** tired of it. my mates and i like go out every friday and saturday nights to clubs/bars, and most of the time they manage to pick up girls to take back to our flat to get laid/have sex. of course im always the f****** one who doesnt. and yes im dead jealous and i sometimes want to take some pills and end my sad pathetic life. at clubs my mates get chatted up with pretty girls and they chat girls up, and they always get on well. whenever i try to chat some girls up they either reject me and laugh at me with their btch mates or they give me the repulsed look. so when we all head back to our flat im mainly always the one without a girl, so when they go off into their rooms to f**, im either sittin outside in the living room or in bed on my own getting jealous and depressed. its even worse when i hear the girls moan of sexual pleasure. yes it gets to me, and i just bust out some porn mags and jack myself off. and hell do i feel sad everytime i do that, knowing itll be the closest ill get to havin sex.on an ugly scale meter im about 8 or 9 or 10, so even average lookin or even ugly women aint interested in me. im naturally a really nice person with a good personality and good manners, and is nice to everyone, always smile etc etc. but hey its not much use it if damn women are so f****** up themselves and shallow.it hurts so freakin bad when i look at attractive women in public and clubs, knowin i wont ever get to date them. man not only does that hurt, it f***s me right off.you want know how sad i am? ill tell you. after a friday/saturday night when my mates bring home girls and has sex with them, and after they fall asleep, i sneak into their rooms on all fours (doors has no locks) and i usually try to grab a an item of clothin from the girl theyve picked up from off the floor like stockings, knickers, skirts, dresses and i take it into my room and have a good sniff over them. i even sniff the girls high heel shoes/sandals as well when everyone is asleep because we all leave our shoes near the door. sad and pathetic isnt it? well dont blame me, i dont want to look like this.i hate watching tv shows like The OC or teen films, because they seriouslly annoy the heck outta me, because its always the damn badass pretty boy that gets it, never the ugly geeky dork who offers his love on a plate.seeing as im extremeely ugly, you would think its a stupid question for me to ask for advice. so here goes:JUST WHAT THE HELL CAN I DO TO GET A GIRLFRIEND/GET LAID FOR HEAVENS SAKE? REMEMBER I DONT WANT PLATIC SURGERY AND I DONT WANT ANY PROSTITUTES. THANKS would be much appriciated to hear some honest female views on this as well as from guys.finally i think ive given up on the "its personality that counts" thing. its a load of crap. damn its well unfair.

Change that attitude! Confidence will get you further than you think. I know plenty of ugly guys(and I mean butt ugly) who get girls. Go out and buy a new outfit. Get a fresh haircut. Once you start feeling better about yourself some girls will come around.

ME_MYSELF_AND_I, thanks but its quite difficult to be nice given the situation im in. no offense, but you wouldnt know whats its like. sorry

Well you must realize that at long as you think of yourself as extremely ugly, lonely, sad, depressed, and jealous no female is going to want you. I'm telling you how you feel on the inside shows on the outside.

no, i just make myself look even more of idiot if i act all confidence. tried that before, like i said in my post.and besides if some ugly guy had the balls to try it on with you you wouldnt say yes would you.

If an ugly guy approached me (assuming I wasn't in a relationship) I wouldn't automatically dismiss him just because of how he looks. If he approaches me with confidence, and seems like a cool person, I'll give him a shot. But if an ugly guy approaches me, and I can tell he isn't happy with who he is, then thats an automatic turn off. If you dont like who you are, why would you expect anyone else to?

But thats just how I think, someone else will be along with their opinions.

no but you'd eventually dismiss him wouldnt you regardless of his confidence and personalitywhen you were single i hope u didnt give ugly guys any hope cause imo thats even worse

and also i thought you women didnt like guys who are too confident or boastful or up themselves

No, I wouldn't waste his time or mine.

you didnt answer this one:
you'd eventually dismiss him anyway wouldnt you regardless of his confidence and personality?
you really dont know what its like do you, just sweep them aside to the gutter dont you

Most women dont like either of the 2 extremes, over confident, or lack of confidence.You wont be too boastful if you think of yourself as good enough....not ugly, not hopeless, not jealous. You make it sound like being ugly is some uncurable disease that women avoid at all costs.

In reply to:You make it sound like being ugly is some uncurable disease that women avoid at all costser it is to everyone isnt it? i think it applies to girls more, cause i seen guys date average and ugly girls before but i never see women dating ugly guys

In reply to: you'd eventually dismiss him anyway wouldnt you regardless of his confidence and personality? No, I wouldn't. If I was shallow enough to be fixiated on looks alone, I wouldn't give him the time of day. If I think he's a cool person, I'm not going to waste both of our time by getting his hopes up just to eventually dump him.No I dont "sweep them aside to the gutter". How do you know I'm not ugly? Lets face it, we are all ugly in someone's eyes.

It is obvious I am not being of any help to you. I mean this in the most compassionate way......, I think you need professional help. You are thinking about killing yourself? You sniff the girls undergarments? You've got some serious issues to deal with, and getting sex is the least of them.

I hope that didn't sound harsh, that wasn't my intent.

In reply to:How do you know I'm not ugly? Lets face it, we are all ugly in someone's eyes.well youve got a boyfriend (you say your not single) so your face must be doing okay.yeah we maybe ugly in someones eyes, but thats were it gets complicated when discussing the matter because it goes into the Ugly Scale Meter Level, and im just too damn depressed to talk about that right now.

In reply to:I think you need professional help. You are thinking about killing yourself? You sniff the girls undergarments? You've got some serious issues to deal with, and getting sex is the least of them.I hope that didn't sound harsh, that wasn't my intent. well not killin myself just a figure of speech i use when depressed...i mean if i did then that means the beautiful people winsyeah i sniff my flatmates girls clothes, shoes etc....BUT before you call me a perve or somethin its the closest ill ever f****** get when i smell the girls smell on them it makes me happy know what im sayin yeah i know its extremely sad and pathetic, but hey like i said i didnt choose this damn face. i would like brad pitt or chad micheal murrays face but hey

oh well thanks for your replies anyway no girl has ever spoke this much to me before

In reply to:no girl has ever spoke this much to me beforeDo you mean that literally? If so, it's like trying to be a guitar virtuoso without ever having picked up a guitar. It's not much easier to pick up a woman if you're not comfortable with women, which you can't be if you've hardly spoken to women. And you're trying to meet women in a bar, which is a very difficult environment (in my experience, anyway).Have you tried to meet women in any other way? I'd try for a face-to-face conversation before I'd worry about getting laid.

Ugly Minger, I agree that looks make a difference and lacking them is a handicap. However, it is far from being a fatal handicap, and the older you get, the less of a handicap it becomes. Teens may insist on a partner who looks hot, but as they get older they start realising the importance of personality. Looks always fade, anyway; personality doesn't.What is fatal is the attitude "I'm doomed to fail". You may think it's a realistic attitude, but it isn't true. Of course you don't want the sort of confidence that says "I'm God's gift to women" - that turns women off whoever has it. What you need is the confidence that says "I'm a worthwhile person". That's true; it's realistic; and if you have that attitude, women will find that they like you, and then they'll grow to love you; and that love, having grown slowly, will be the deeper and more solid.

MM&I is totally right about the confidence thing. I know a hell of a lot of people who are not good looking, and some honestly bad looking, but they have girlfriends, wives and families. The feeling sorry for yourself will put girls off straight away, and Im sorry but your wrong, not all girls just go for looks, the ones that do are sorry bitches anyway and you are better off without em.When you are young, people go for looks, but that kinda mellows as you get older as you realise that you can be some someone who is fucking gorgeous and yet hate every second of the time you spend in his or her company, cos they are so shallow, and about as much fun as a STD! My fiance isn't what you would call a gorgeous man, in fact he thinks hes ugly, and hes a big lad, 6,3 and overweight, so you could say that he isn't exactly gods gift to women, but i love him to bits, cos of who he is - his personality etc.