Im ugly and want to have sex/get laid with a girl

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I knew what she meant, and i think you took it very literally, and i wasn't on about that hon i would on about the 'tone' of your post thats all......its not like you to be like that to a woman on here - just my observation.

sigh i wish i was a beautiful woman...i can just lay on the bed in front of a huge mirror and have 24/7 hours of fun with a vibrator....no need to try and date women anymore!

I don't think he's going to get any useful help from you on this issue.Person asks what to do about tight foreskin: he gets lots of good advice.Person asks about hemorrhoids: he gets lots of good advice.Person asks about a potentially serious psychological issue: we advise him to get professional help. Plastic surgeons evaluate prospective patients, and if they present with psychological issues, they recommend counseling before considering surgery. It probably makes more sense to just go for counseling first.I didn't tell Minger to just go get surgery. I wanted to know why he wouldn't consider it under any circumstances; that it shouldn't just be written off. I'm sure you're ravishing, but not everyone is fortunate enough to inherit genes like yours.Does any of that make sense to you, or are you just going to call me an asshole again?

SteveA it doesn't matter mate, I know you were trying to help.

There really anything else that any one of us can tell you. Take what we said into consideration. You can ask a million people and they're still going to tell you the same things...

UM, the fact that you don't want plastic surgery makes me wonder if, deep down, you feel more comfortable having the "ugly guy" role. Perhaps it's the only one you know, so anything else is frighteningly new. Now, I wouldn't in fact suggest plastic surgery, but what I suggest is just as difficult: when people want to change their sex, they have to live as the other sex for some time before anyone considers operating - I suggest that you should live as if you were an OK-looking person. Change your mental attitude first . . . and you may find nothing else needs doing.

dude, there's someone for everyone. Are you setting your sights outrageously high? I'm sure a lot of guys would like to date the most beautiful person in the world, but that's all subjective, what I think is extremely hot (Halle Berry) someone might think is ugly, or mediocre. I know you've probably heard that before, but it's true. Do you think it's also possible that you see women as objects? hence you wanna get laid so badly. You say you're smooth, but your definition of smooth, may vastly differ from female's idea of it. Maybe you're over compensating for what you believe is a big "defect" in personal appearance, and that may be a turn off to the women you talk to. Just some thoughts, I'm probably way off on 99% of them.

well no i dont see women as objects, if anythin they see guys/me as objects....as for gettin laid, almost every young person is doing it nowadays in places like ibiza, tenerife its ok to do that now in this day and agei just pissed off cause my mates take women home and shag theyve been doin it for years and im still fuckin stuck with 0 notches on me bedpostcall me sick or whatever but almost every young person nowadays does it

Do you want to get laid just because it's the thing to do and you're jealous of your friends? Are you just looking for a quick fix? Because prostitution is the only easy answer. Other solutions might take some work. Are you willing to spend some time and effort in fixing your issue with women before worrying about getting laid?You say you don't see women as objects, but everything you say contradicts that. Do you have any female friends?

Do you refer to women as "bitches" when you're in front of them??I agree with the women here. Your attitude about yourself really stinks. I don't want to baby anybody all the time. I want a man. You're not acting like one at the moment. Best advice for this is counseling. You may not be that attractive but dude, there is someone for everyone. Period. So you're not hot or even cute. So what? Think about the other things about yourself that you think are important that a girl would like about you. Just because you have a handicap in one area doesn't mean you're handicapped in others. Get a grip and take a deep breath and then find a counselor who can help you rebuild your self-esteem. Would you date someone who sounds like you do right now? Of course not. Why do you expect us women to fall all over ourselves to come busting down your door when you sound that way?

I agree with everything you said, but I'm not sure that Minger is looking for a relationship or just a lay. Or maybe he'd like a relationship, but doesn't think it's cool to talk about it.Minger, you sound like you're angry about the unfairness of your situation, but anger is not a good place to start if you're trying to meet someone. You really need to get to the bottom of your feelings. It's just very hard to believe that "ugliness" is the whole story.Counseling might not be the only answer, but it will probably be quicker than the alternative of doing nothing.

it is about the ugliness, if i was some fit handsome guy theres a good chance i wouldnt be complaining on these boards. because i would probably be too busy fighting off the girls - and you all know it.

its funny how everyone makes themselves out to be a saint, but when it comes down to it no girls would want to date an ugly guy and vice versa. its all well giving out advice which i appreciate, but advice coming from people who wont date uglys anyway is kind of ironic.

course i dont refer to them as 'bitches' when im in front of them. only a fit/hot/buff/gorgeous/etc guy would be able to get away with that.my attitude about myself stinks?? well what do expect after being rejected, laughed at, called 'disgusting' by shallow bitches all my fucking life? and when you say "why us women to fall all over ourselves to come busting down your door" well lets face it, even if i had brilliant personality/attitude you still wouldnt come busting my door down ANYWAY, know what i'm sayin? no, instead you would be rushing to bust down chad michael murray's door wouldnt you, despite not knowing what hes like in real life!!im bottling it all up and very hard and i act nice and cool, but there sometimes come a time when the lid gets looser and looser.

I'm not arguing with you about your attractiveness, but the problem is that it's not always easy to be objective about yourself. Everyone's perception about themselves is distorted. An objective outsider might be a help.I'll tell you one thing: There's no way you can be uglier than some rock stars who have groupies breaking down their dressing room doors.If you say "I'm ugly as hell, and I want to get laid, dammit, and women are a bunch of buggers, so tell me how to get laid!", what kind of response do you think you'll get? Your first post was lengthy, but it contained more about your theories on women than information about yourself. It sounds like you're resentful toward women, but we don't know how that affects your approach to them.Among others, I think what Ineleigible makes a lot of sense. But we're guys, so that figures. But you're asking for help with a problem that's not easy to address from the other side of a computer screen.So what's your next step?

these are the kind of bitches i mean, this bitch is a good example of the kind of girls i hate right down to the ground, notice how she has ">>-("v")->luvin all da buff bois 4va Please do not post links, unless they are of a medical nature.~Diver~]/b]

Dude, are you crazy, posting a link to some person's picture? You can find as much stuff as you like to confirm your distorted view of the world. In fact, it's a lot harder for an "ugly" woman to find a guy than the reverse.If you don't get some help, you are truly fucked. But it sounds like you're more into the anger than any kind of solution.

no but apart from pic have you studied the info she has put on that site? sounds fucking shallow to me.and dont say fucked if i dont get any help, im just telling the truth.

So there are women who are shallow! Damn, you sound exactly like a racist talking about why he doesn't like [fill in the blank]s. There are men who are jerks, there are women who are jerks, there are a lot of people who are jerks. What are you going to do, shoot them all?In fact, the person you mentioned may be marrying a plain guy. Who the hell knows? Young girls are shallower than women. Young guys want Britney Spears. But you're taking your own experiences and assuming that you have an accurate model of the world. You don't.

those are the kind of shits that take the piss, something i have endured A LOT. here in the England the country is infested with them. or as we call them, 'chavs'

any members from england here should know the 'chavs' they just hang around the estate/towns judging guys as they walk past