as of now, i dont have any antivirus/firewall installed. i dont have a broadband connection on. but i had an always-on broadband connection on LAN till lately. i have used a lot of these pc defenders. yea zone alarm pro which has antivirus and firewall is something i definitely recomend. do u really want an antivirus app that takes up so much ram and makes ur comp less stable? this is wat norton does. i have used norton system works, antivirus and the internet security suite. it gives these alerts when a virus/trojan is found but doesnt do anything to delete it and u cant even close the alert window after clicking ok. minimum recomended ram for win xp is 256 megabytes an i hav 640 many and felt it wasnt enough. but i do have sdram but my comp still shouldnt be in this critical situation for memory. many times it hanged and crashed my comp. people tend to say norton is the best when they havent used any other better protection. and for mcafee i like its security center which integrates everything u need to defend ur comp but still is weak on its protection. avg is supposed to be the best virus scanner and blackice the most powerful firewall, but on the complicated side to use. i also like pc-cillin because it has a anti-trojan built in but i couldnt obtain a serial to use it for free. price wasnt a factor for any soft. i used because i downloaded them.antivirus: panda, avg, z.a. suite , trend micro pc-cillin, nod32antispyware: webroot, giant, microsoft antispyware(identical to giant because they bought giant like they do to everything nowadays and made it free, but i prefer using giant anyday because microsoft is gay)firewall: blackice , z.a. suite, kaspersky, kerio
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Does anyone else get pop ups on here?
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not everyone uses one of the two, but a lot of people do because of its reputation and ads, and its because they dont kno any better. every computer nowadays come pre-loaded with one of the two as well with maybe a 90 day subscription. fortunately my next one wont be because i am building it myself. but i personally like za suite because its compact and has lot of features.
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Were you using a recent version of Norton? I've been using their anti-virus s/w for a few years, and I agree it was a pretty unstable mess a few years ago. But the latest version seem unobtrusive (for me), although it does burn a lot of memory, and it can slow things down. I used McAfee a while back, but I like the newer Norton better, which is an unfair comparison.ZoneAlarm worked well, but I kept getting confounded when it quitely didn't allow stuff to go through certain ports....maybe more of a user problem than an application problem....but it did lead to some confusing problems on a corporate network.My Norton Internet Suite expires in a few months, and I should look at other alternatives, but I can get the 2005 version for $4 after rebate....it's just too tempting. My current 2004 version, bought at Costco, cost less than $0 after rebates (even after subtracting for sales tax and postage to mail the rebate forms).
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yea i was using a recent version of norton. i used 2005, 2004, 2003 and whatever came before that and they all seemed to take up more ram than the version before, similar to AOL. i didnt pay for them because i downloaded them. i have never payed for software and it doesnt make sense to. these companies make so much money anyway. i used mcafee back in 1999 and in 2005 and there was a huge difference, well more than u would expect. mcafee has a cool firewall i can see the exact location of the attacker pinpoint on map with their ip to i think. u can also find out ur attacker with blackice, a very powerful firewall, and probably the best firewall there is, but complicated to use. but the reason y i said za is a better antivirus than norton is the fact that when i scanned my comp with both of them norton scanned about 70,000 files while za when beyond 140,000 files. and yea i thought i had probs with configuring ports with za when i wanted to serve files over mIRC. but the problem was with my wired router and that mite have also been ur problem but im not sure. u should probably just download a antivirus and firewall and just use serial and/or crack. if u want a free and legal antivirus look into avg free edition: http://free.grisoft.com/freeweb.phpand the antivirus and firewall(BETA): http://www.grisoft.com/doc/avgplusfw/lng/us/tpl/tpl01
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In reply to:i have never payed for software and it doesnt make sense to. these companies make so much money anyway.Dude, you're talking to someone who has written a lot of software for a living...if I'd given it more thought, I wouldn't have paid for my car (Honda is pretty rich)...but thanks for the firewall/antivirus info.
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[does anyone else get pop ups on here?] Yeah, it pops up now and then.
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the only reason i said that was because i thouht u were taking the price of the antivirus into a lot of consideration. i barely have money to pay for cell phone, internet, etc. i dont kno where i would have the money to buy my antivirus/firewall, windows xp pro, microsoft office, all my games, visual/real basic, and dozens of other softs. and i was talking about software companies who get 50-300 dollars to sell a CD that u put in ur computer just once.
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Not sure about the others, but as I said, Norton usually costs between 0 and a few dollars after dealing with annoying rebate forms; I used the free version of ZoneAlarm (on a trial basis, of course). Not sure about the others.I figure that if you can't afford a piece of software, it doesn't much matter whether you "borrow" it or just don't use it...the vendor hasn't lost any revenue in either case. It's ridiculous when Microsoft states how many billions they're losing to piracy, when they had no hope of selling software to a lot of the free-riders. I hope they're not writing off the imaginary loss on their taxes. But I think it sucks when, for example, the Chinese government is using pirated software.BTW, the problems I had with ZoneAlarm had nothing to do with external firewall/routers. ZA did interfere with some remote network stuff the company was doing. Since I didn't know what resources were being used, I'd keep running into new problems.The company already was firewalled from the Internet (I assume they had the firewall set up properly). But that did nothing to protect my PC from things on the LAN. And when rogue wireless access points popped up, security got pretty shaky.
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microsoft is losing a lot and its not money. they actually think they can beat piracy with their products. its true i wouldnt even be using ms office even it was 20 dollars instead of 300. same with all the other softs. it just wont happen and i heard they r putting some sophistacated anti-piracy in their new longhorn. how did they found out that the chinese govt was usin pirated soft? and zone alarm is something i would think is more made for homes instead of for companies, where u mite need more protection
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ZoneAlarm is free for non-business use; ZoneAlarm Pro costs money. That implies that someone is using it for business purposes. Of course, all businesses (and everyone else) with a broadband connection should have a hardware firewall.
Everyone is China is using pirated software. They haven't been too concerned about copyright protection, although to make the US happy, they will supposedly crack down. I doubt it. Instead, the Chinese government has decided that Linux is the way to go. No licensed software, no software license issues.
I'm not sure that the national government in Beijing is using pirated software (although it probably is), but it's being used everywhere else. In Hong Kong, you can buy CD-ROMs, for a few dollars, that contain all kinds of unlocked high-end software.
Some of the Longhorn security stuff won't make it into the initial Longhorn release. From wat I understand about it, it will put the kibbosh on non-commercial Windows software, at least in the version of Longhorn that Microsoft had hoped to release.
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zonealarm to begin with is not something i would recomend outside the home even though they make different packages. i used the zone alarm suite which had the zone alarm pro firewall/virus.well i kno china is bootleg capital. u walk into chinatown and u see everything from fake jordans to louis vuittons, which r everywhere anyway, but the govt thts different. the only reason i wanted to kno is because i have one of the Longhorns already obviously for 32-bit PC's and i didnt want to be stuck in the middle of nowhere after i back up my hard drives with 160 GB worth of stuff and not have an OS to get onto. i will be able to solve my prob in the end but will waste so much of my time.