This debating....

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Listen folks, this debating about circumcision and religion and who does it and why and why it was done and why it should be done and why it should'nt be done and why why why and who thinks what or wants what.....

Its just getting really really old and now people are beginning to attack and irritate with cultural and racial things. I think we need to accept the fact that some of us are cut and others uncut and that is life. There should be no discussion about why...or who... it simply is a fact of life.

I'm getting tired of it...and when racial/cultural things continue getting thrown around..I get really disgusted by it all.

Lets call a truce and move on.....

I fully agree, lance. It achieves nothing, and it makes the place unpleasant.

I 100% agree with you Lance.

So then, are you buying into the anit-Semetic stuff, or are you saying it should just be let go, or do you just feel personally wronged for having your circumcision argument attacked?

LOL! I agree it needs to be let go.. that's what I am agreeing too. Nothing is going to change the fact there are going to be people for and against circumcision.

How about people being for or against anti-Semetic canards? There's been another discussion going on on a circumcision thread. However I may feel about circumcision, I think scapegoating is vile.

i agree, the thread turned into a guy attacking a relgion just to make himself feel better. Blaming men being cut to a relgion.

things are not always black and white.. ever think people are just tired of hearing about the topic?? I think that's more it than anything.Debatting a topic is great and all..but there is a point where it gets old.

Answering bigoted comments never gets old, lest someone who knows no better takes them seriously.Maybe I'm weird, but I think racial bigotry in general is bad. For historcal reasons, anti-Semitism is tantamount to racial bigotry. Some people think it's bad only if a group that they're part of is attacked.And then the thread in question goes quiet for a while, the offending poster puts up another post, I reply to that, and lance gives me crap? What's up with that?Meanwhile, the offending poster, who completely shamed himself, is talking about who has balls and is demanding an apology. I'd say that if he has balls, he'll discuss what he posted with his Jewish friends. If he's afraid to bring it up with them face-to-face, one is left wondering.

Maybe I'm weird, but I think racial bigotry in general is bad. For historcal reasons, anti-Semitism is tantamount to racial bigotry. Some people think it's bad only if a group that they're part of is attacked.I agree its also bad, but the chances of arguing the topic and getting someone to change their mind is slim to none. Most people are raised with these believes from their parents. Trying to tell someone like this they are wrong and blah blah you're going to get a negative if not harsh response back. Only way someone is going to change their view is they have to look within themselves for whats right and whats wrong.

yea but if we dont say anything some ill-minded kid will come along and read it and think hes right.

Point well taken but lets hope their parents taught this child not to believe everything he reads and to make his own judgemets in life.Parents DO play a large role in how children are raised and how they will view aspects of life.

yea, but if you read around here much people are asking advice and seriously listening to other people, and what happens when they take the wrong advice or comments seriously.

In reply to:I agree its also bad, but the chances of arguing the topic and getting someone to change their mind is slim to none.The more important thing, as I've said several times before, is to have people, whether or not they are kids, not take false racial "facts" seriously. If no one challenged the Jewish doctor story, might not even the best-raised kid believe it? And how many sanctimonious complainers were willing to step up?In reply to: lets hope their parents taught this child not to believe everything he reads and to make his own judgemets in life.Parents DO play a large role in how children are raised and how they will view aspects of life.If parents were perfect, everyone who graduates high school would be literate and numerate and qualified for some kind of job; youth detention facilities wouldn't be so full; there wouldnt' be so much cutting; there wouldn't be so much focus on trivial stuff. Meanwhile, a parent can't cover every possilbe aspect of racism, and a lot of parents are themselves racist.Unfortunately, we live in the real world.

Unfortunately, we live in the real world. That was pretty much my point. It is the real world out there and people need to know what advice to accept and which is useless.I guess my parents raised me "right" when it comes to this topic because I was always raised that if I want to know answers to research it myself and not to take peoples person views, because they can, and often are, tainted.

For better or worse, most people who read this board are not you.

agreed.

I simply cannot believe it.....Unable to drop it and none of it has anything to do with the topic of circ or not anymore....come on steve, isn't it time for a vacation man, don't you want to go to the beach or something and relax?

Had to get in the last word on the "It sucks to debate" thread? Well, it's your thread.

That contibuted a lot to the discourse. Very constructive. Would you like me to step aside and allow you to have the last word?