Kids today, and why they suck

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Yes that is true. But if the kids were given the skills to deal with life when they were younger they wouldn't have the same kinds of problems. Or the very least to the same degree. By the time a kids is 16ish they should be equipped with life skills to deal with most of what comes at them. A parent should only be a basic observer and advisor at that point if they took care of business when the kids were younger. No one thinks you can watch over a teenager 24/7. If you raised a child well you won't have to.

some teenagers need to be watched over

Did anyone stop to think how things are in Western Europe, where, for a long time, kids have been given sex education in school? For a long time they've had nudity on TV, in magazine advertisements, on beaches, all over the place. I'm not sure that European kids have sex at a younger age than American kids do, on the average. Perhaps they do. But they have many fewer unintended teen pregnancies. Basically, the level of hypocrisy is just lower.Unfortunately, some of the same elements who rail against abortion also do everything they can to keep schools from teaching sex ed at an age where it would be more useful. The result is more abortions. Ironic, isn't it?ata7, you can tell as many 14-year-olds as you like not to have sex, and that they're idiot sleaze bag whores. You might as well tell them to go build a nuclear reactor. They need to understand that sex is serious stuff, and it's OK to say no, and that no one should pressure youthem into doing it. But if they are still going to do it, they need to take the following precautions....That would be a lot more constructive than drawing conclusions about the current state of our society, based on your own narrow, jaundiced view.

Are you gonna back up your assertion that more abortions is a result of lack of sex education with research? I dare ya.

I can back up my assertion that the rate of abortions is lower in Western Europe than it is here, and that they get sex education in lower grades then they do here (if in fact they get it at all here).Are you asserting that ignorance of birth control methods doesn't contribute to unwanted pregnancy? On this site, you still regularly get questions of the caliber of "Is it possible to get pregnant the first time I have sex?". Or should we crank up the "Just say no!" campaign again? It didn't seem to do much good last time, according to the statistics.Have you ever searched for statistics or references yourself? Go look for the data on the Promise Keepers. I dare ya.

Most parents are slackers. My standard house rules are: I mean what I say. I'm only telling you once. I am going to be checking on you. If you say you're going to Zach's house, I may pop over and make sure you are at Zach's house. There will be random drug tests while you are growing up. (from 7th grade on) I expect you to do your homework and your chores.And you will need to go to college. If you tow the line you will have more freedom. If you don’t you will have less freedom. If he knows the rules and knows they are enforced he’s more likely to follow them. This son just got back from a cruise to the Caribbean. Summer before last he went to Hawaii. He doesn’t have the new Xbox but he will when he ears it. He has the old one, a PS2, a Gamecube and lots of games for all. He has a 27” tv , PS2 plays DVDs, a VCR and cable. And if he doesn’t earn the right to use them by following the rules he looses them. My son just turned 11. He has straight As and his teacher want to advance him a grade. I get compliments on his behavior where he goes. Even when I’m not there. If he wants to have sex? He needs to watch his little sister some more, and we’ll go buy the condoms. And I’ll be more than happy to take his gf to Planned Parenthood if she’d like. The more birth control the better.

In reply to:I can back up my assertion that the rate of abortions is lower in Western Europe than it is here, and that they get sex education in lower grades then they do here (if in fact they get it at all here) But you can't show that there is a correlation between the two, can you. In reply to: Have you ever searched for statistics or references yourself? I've just completed a huge research project. I've taken several masters level research courses. I would put my ability to do this up against yours or anyone else's on this board any day. In reply to:Go look for the data on the Promise Keepers. I dare ya. And stop acting like such a f*cking ass. This constantly trying to paint me as the worst sort of fundy-neanderthal-homophobic-anti-intellectial-wife-beating-ignoramus is getting old. The bottom line is that you have a huge problem with anyone who disagrees with you on anything. I suggest you grow up and get over it.

::cough choke spazm die:: What about me? I've kept my legs closed! Except when I excercise.I agree that sadly my generation and those to come are really just bad. Alot of kids are having sex these days and not even caring. There are kids that make out in the closet all the time, in the bathrooms, in the hallway corners. It's disgusting. But some do use protection though. My friend and I found a half filled condomonium outside on the field before Christmas vacation. Yes it was nasty, and yes I lost my appetite. It was my second time seeing one and that... really doesn't look safe but oh well. Parents can't really do much since they're not always there. Most of my friends... few of my friends are still virgins only because their parents would murder them. Sounds familiar. Today's youth could do better.

Steve you need to learn when to just shut the fuck up and stop talking. You are annoying as shit with all ur fucking quotes. You are the type of people i hate in this world. People who research everything before they say it so they sound intelligent. ive said it before and ill say it again....get a fuckin life, grow up, and shut the fuck up

ata7 you shut the fuck up and stop being an asshole. He researches to back things up! Unlike you, all you can say is that you hate him and bad names. Also you hate him because he has references and he quotes? Aren't you kind of a fucking idiot. If you have such a life why are you here?!( no offense, not saying other people here don't have a life)ATA7.Oh yea answer to your question. I think what you feel about kids now, is what your older generation felt about you! I kind of thought we'll go back to being people who only have fig leaves covering our goodies.

I dunno, if its just todays youth that our having unprotected sex. Every generation has people who slept with people at all sorts of ages. Maybe people use to shun it while kids would brag about it now...thats why it seems like our generation has more..sex at a young age.

two wrongs don't make right...

aww whats the matter did i offend ur babycakes steve? you to busy kissing his ass right now? go fuck urself. the guys has over 10000 fucking posts, he must live in front of his fuckin computer researching everything before he posts it. All this so he can look educated in front of people he will never meet in his fuckin life. u have 17 posts so shut ur fucking mouth, u can open it when i say so bitch

Is it wrong to be more educated than you? You don't have to be jealous the fact that Steve is a lot more intelligent than you..You have like almost a thousand posts and you tell Steve to get a life...wow you are so immature, idiotic and seriously pathetic. I think you like getting this attention, don't ya!

well maybe if u were a little better at math ud see the difference. ive been registeres 2 months longer than him, i have nearly one thousand, he has over 10000. thats a big difference. i could give two shits if hes better educated than me, i hope he is since hes older than me. you can be as smart as u want, but if u dont do nething with ur life then it doesnt mean anything. and why the fuck are u even talking, this had nothing to do with you so maybe you should start minding your own fucking business. if you have such an important life then get off the computer and quit arguing in things that dont concern you. o and yes i love the attention from people over the internet, oooooooo its fuel for me.

Yawn. Meow. Frilly pillows turn me on. Well, either way you still post a lot...way more than me. Doesn't matter how long you were on...you're still a borderline retard.I'm just annoyed that you like to provoke people. He likes to know facts...big fucking deal. I'm defending him because I find what you are saying is ridiculous and I'm just proving to you how stupid you are. You need to see that. I hope I'm guiding you toward the light, my child. pet pet

haha thanks for making me laugh tonight. the fact that you got so angry is what realy makes me laugh. whether you want to admit it or not you got pissed. and that is all i needed to show that you are a big hypocrite. and i have no respect for hypocrites, nor do i listen to them. Vafanculo tua puttana bacci mio culo.....fica

This has gone off topic. I know I got you mad too I'm satisfied to know that I've shut you up. If you were intelligent, you could back up what you just said. But you're not so, well all you can do is talk.

"Steve you need to learn when to just shut the fuck up and stop talking. You are annoying as shit with all ur fucking quotes. You are the type of people i hate in this world. People who research everything before they say it so they sound intelligent. ive said it before and ill say it again....get a fuckin life, grow up, and shut the fuck up."Firstly from this quote, all Steve did was use quotes and facts to support his idea. Ata7 states the fact that he is trying to sound intelligent, and therefore should shut up and get a life. He does sound jealous because of what he just said. He says he hates him because Steve's done research and tries to sound intelligent. Does that prove my point?

You want my SAT scores? Maybe we can just see who can pee the furthest. :wink: Maybe you can start a new thread and set up a poll. :grin: Jeez, how come you never ask anyone else to back things up and provide evidence?

damien> I beleive it is happening more these days.

You keep demanding evidence from me, and you say your a good researcher, but your opinions are apparently self-evidently true. I don't recall many cases where you've backed up anything. Your reference on the Christmas thread contradicted your position, and yet you were upset with me when I questioned the quality of that source.

damien> But you can't show that there is a correlation between the two, can you.

You know, what I said doesn't prove a cause-and-effect, but it clearly implies a correlation. If I go dig up the statistics, will you not return to the thread, address everything else but not that, or just call me an idiot and tell me to shut up?

damien> I've taken several masters level research courses. I would put my ability to do this up against yours or anyone else's on this board any day.

You talk the talk. Let's see you walk the walk. I don't recall seeing anything approaching research here. I suspect on issues of religion, if you feel attacked, you go non-linear, and all that research and such get tossed out the window.

damien> And stop acting like such a f*cking ass.

Great answer. That trumps any and all research.

damien> This constantly trying to paint me as the worst sort of fundy-neanderthal-homophobic-anti-intellectial-wife-beating-ignoramus is getting old.

Dude, you have a persecution complex. You may think that all of my posts are directed at you, but they're really not. By the way, you misspelled "intellectual". :wink:

> The bottom line is that you have a huge problem with anyone who disagrees with you on anything.

So I'm imagining that you're arguing with me in a lot of threads, and that in fact you think it's just dandy when people disagree with you. Go look in the mirror, dude.

ata7> Steve you need to learn when to just shut the fuck up and stop talking. You are annoying as shit with all ur fucking quotes. You are the type of people i hate in this world. People who research everything before they say it so they sound intelligent.

So basically, whatever you spew, off the top of your head, off the cuff, is good enough. You don't need to back up anything that other people might disagree with with no stinking facts, references, or authoritative opinions. It must be really nice to just know it all. The world is your oyster. So kids nowadays just plain suck, and that's the end of the story. Having sex when you're 14 is bad, but busting up relationships is fine. I don't follow your logic. Is it a moral issue or what?

ata7> ive said it before and ill say it again....get a fuckin life, grow up, and shut the fuck up

Well then, why don't you just save the wear and tear on your fingers and stop saying that? Your rate of posting is not much different from mine.

ata7> researching everything before he posts it. All this so he can look educated in front of people he will never meet in his fuckin life.

Do you prefer to sound and act uneducated? The fact that I don't know any of these people in real life should inform you that I'm not trying to impress anyone for any kind of gain. If I wanted to do that, I'd just kiss everyones rear end. If the idea is to help people, then it's better to post verifed facts. From what I've seen, there are occasions that you have posted incorrect or incomplete information. It would be better if you'd do a quick verification before you post. If you can't or won't do that, then the world won't end if you don't post to some thread.

You are utterly obsessed with post count. Each to his own. What I want to do is convey correct information. I don't disagree with most of what I see on this board, and I don't comment on everything I disagree with. But if someone just types something that spurts out of his brain, tarring a whole class of people (whether they're gay, young, whatever), then they had better be able to back up what they say with something more than a stream of obscenities. Attacking someone who disagrees with you just makes your own position look indefensible, and it doesn't make you look very smart.

ata7> you to busy kissing his ass right now?

So if someone agrees with someone who disagrees with you, they must be kissing each other's asses? What are people who agree with you doing?

ata7> if you have such an important life then get off the computer and quit arguing in things that dont concern you

Well, we would want someone who disagrees with us to post to our thread, now do we?

ata7> go fuck urself.

...and a lot more angry ranting, followed by...

ata7> the fact that you got so angry is what realy makes me laugh. whether you want to admit it or not you got pissed. and that is all i needed to show that you are a big hypocrite. and i have no respect for hypocrites, nor do i listen to them.

You seem to have a real issue with anger. I mean, you are really angry a lot. Does that make you a hypocrite as well, or do you revel in your anger?

> Vafanculo tua puttana bacci mio culo.....fica

Do you think you're the only person who understands Italian? Do you think you might get a forced vacation from this site if you had written that in English? That was pretty obscene. Next time you might type your obscenities in Sanskrit. Or, when you're about to spew a string of obscenities, you might just take your own advice and "learn when to just shut the fuck up and stop talking".