Going crazy...hopefully not

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hahahahahahaha.Nostradomaus predicted several end of the world dates, and they all were wrong.The bible says jesus will be with us until the end of the "world" (Which was actually a mis-translated line from the old testament, it actually meant jesus will be with us until the end of the "age", which is 2150. The end of the age in 2150 is the end of Jesus' age, which is the age of Pisces, the fish symbol. You may be familiar with the pisces sign affiliated with christianity, such as the "Jesus Live" avatar. 2150 doesn't signify Jesus' second coming, but the new age of Aquarius. It's in the bible "ye will find the man holding a barrel of water." this is Aquarius, the symbol of the water bearer. The age of Aquarius starts after the age of Pisces, the age of Jesus. We're not dying people.)After researching the Mayans, i'm pretty sure they meant "The world will change forever, including peoples attitudes". Yes it is true, our solar system hits the galactic center in 2012, but it doesnt mean shit in terms of our world ending. I think peoples attitudes will change, whether it means a new government, or people actually doing something about global warming.There will always be a book, or a religion, or a person who doesnt exist anymore who says the end of the world is approaching us, usually in our lifetime. This was done for a simple reason guys, to keep us in check. So we be good people, and repent for our sins, and try to die as holy as we can, so that we go to heaven if this really does happen.However, once you realize that religion was made for the purpose of controlling the masses of people, regardless of age,sex,ethnicity, or location, we can finally see that religion is nothing more then a scapegoat. Bush said god told him to invade Afghanistan.If i told you the world is ending in a week, would you believe me? No. Then why do you believe some mayans who lived centuries ago?and the bible doesn't say the world is ending in 2150 contrary to popular belief.I think a lot of you here need a wake up call, so i'm going to give it to you. I think you'll like this StillSearching.http://www.zeitgeistmovie.comNot the best form of what i'm talking about, but it gets it accross with visuals."The Power of Nightmares" is a good watch too, 3 hours long.Educate yourselves people.

Originally Posted By: AfterhoursThen why do you believe some mayans who lived centuries ago? I think the Mayans had a few greater accomplishments than you have, no offence. More than any person living in the modern world, actually, so don't feel bad. It's easy to discredit them as primitive people, and say things like "Well, they couldn't operate a car." Who the fuck cares, cars just polute the earth anyway.

I think you'll like this StillSearching.Why would I like that? I watched like 4 minutes of it and had no idea what the hell that was supposed to be.> we can finally see that religion is nothing more then a scapegoatThat's what I've been saying for a while now.

Originally Posted By: AfterhoursThere will always be a book, or a religion, or a person who doesnt exist anymore who says the end of the world is approaching us, usually in our lifetime. This was done for a simple reason guys, to keep us in check. So we be good people, and repent for our sins, and try to die as holy as we can, so that we go to heaven if this really does happen.However, once you realize that religion was made for the purpose of controlling the masses of people, regardless of age,sex,ethnicity, or location, we can finally see that religion is nothing more then a scapegoat. Bush said god told him to invade Afghanistan.If you look at the very essence of what religion is, what it is based upon. You should realize that it is actually not such a bad thing. Religion IS a way of controlling people, however the belief's behind religion is a way of GUIDING masses of people. If you are going to take quotes from a village idiot, then that is very unfair to base an entire religion or being upon. I do not believe in any of the current and preivous religions god(s) However, I do think there is a high chance of there being a higher spiritual being . To deny that there may be a possiblity of one, would be insanely ignorant. I hear stories of how people have had 'out of body' experiences, I know a ex-priest who told a story of one, where the person was able to name every single person in the room next to them. I sure hope there is something else after life as we know it.

I hear stories of how people have had 'out of body' experiences, I know a ex-priest who told a story of one, where the person was able to name every single person in the room next to them.You may want to read this article before you claim an OOB experience involves some spiritual higher being. Unless you call your own brain a spiritual higher being.

Wow still searching, your article disproved nothing. This had to do with out of body experiences in the same room. This person actually went to another room that they had not visited once before, and listed the people who were in it. Try that on for size.

I've seen zetigeist, and I think that it makes alot of sense in many ways. However I do not think it disproves the idea of a god. How is it that all of our constellation system align to tell such stories? I think that maybe a presence of a higher being could only create the constellation in such a way that could be manifested in the zodiac. If you call it coincidence then it is like me calling the Jesus story aligning with the zodiac a coincidence.

And I suppose you think lucid cdreaming is a higher spiritual being as well? *rolleyes*

I think the Mayans had a few greater accomplishments than you have, no offence. More than any person living in the modern world, actually, so don't feel bad. Ahh... Sexpert... you're a fine example of the ignorant people who pollute the earth to this very day.You just described a vast majority of people, the "Mayans" to have more accomplishments then "me" or most of us.So... you just basically said a few thousand Mayans have accomplished more.. then me and a few other people? Ok... you're smart, clearly.Next time you try to say i'm wrong, use wholesome facts instead of just generalizations.Btw, none of them were smarter then Einstein, a modern-world inhabitant who didnt claim to be a prohpet just because he saw an image of god in his tea.Nice try though. Next...StillSearching..Ill agree the intro to the movie is hella long, 10-15 mins i think. Just skip the intro and get into the religion/astrological part, it's the first chapter of the video, right after the intro.

nothing can disprove the theory that god exists. thats why religion is still in extistence you can only disprove gods intentions why god could existthat is why there is so many religions that fight with one anotherwhich is the perfect oppurtunity for a being of pure evil and deeption to striketo pretend to mend all religions together would bring hope and trust to anyone who can do it as soon as there eating out of the palm of your hands down comes the hammerthe four horse of the apocalypse are let loose and the war of black and white goes up in flames

why the fuck the 21st? 4 days before christmas we'd die fuck it

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• Hope we meet aliens.

You may already have. If people are going to believe in way out shit like that in the bible, nostradamus and all the other stuff, might as well factor in the extreme possibility that either *we are* the aliens (experimantal race inserted to this planet) or they they are here amongst us. To think otherwise would be silly, arrogant human thinking.

Great point. Who is to say that we are not just some science project for some other sentient beings? That could be our "God". :]

If you like reading, look for a book called "Chariots of the gods". It's based along those lines, and very thought provoking.

I LOVE reading, and Im about to start working at Barnes and Noble, so I could find that book easily! Nifty, I will check it out.

Back to my point

>>>If i told you the world is ending in a week, would you believe me? No. Then why do you believe some mayans who lived centuries ago?

Don't be an idiot.

Or at least TRY not to be one.

I think you've read yourself stupid, homie. Books can only get you so far. Drop the attitude and step away from the books.

Why are you comaring yourself to an entire culture? The Egyptians. You want to tell me how much you compare to them too? Spunky.

"Why are you comaring yourself to an entire culture? The Egyptians. You want to tell me how much you compare to them too? Spunky. "
Um excuse me.. it was YOU who compared me to the entire mayan culture, dumbass.
No shit _the entire mayan culture_ has accomplished more then i have, sherlock.
"I think the Mayans had a few greater accomplishments than you have, no offence."
As my point still stands, you're wrong and dont know how to reinforce your ideas properly.
And as for books "getting me so far" Why? Should i drop books and watch TV, where you probably got your "information"?
Again, youre wrong.

Originally Posted By: AfterhoursYes it is true, our solar system hits the galactic center in 2012...I was wondering if you would care to explain what your talking about here. We are no where near the galactic center. We are roughly 26,000 to 28,000 light years from the galactic center and we are not even headed toward it. Beyond that the laws of physics show that there is not way we can cover such a distance in four years. We orbit the galactic center at a rate of once every 200 to 250 million years. Your are here in the Milky Way. And, here is the orbital path of our solar system in the Milky Way. Originally Posted By: Afterhours...but it doesnt mean shit in terms of our world ending.Actually it would. Ignoring for the moment that the super-massive black-hole lays at the galactic center that would gobble us up, the trip alone would more than likely spell the end of life for us. The galactic center is a high star population area. While a coalition with another star or system would be highly unlikely we would more than likely be irradiated into non-existence, if first the interaction of gravity with near stars didn't hurl comets and asteroids, within our own solar system, at us. The galactic center is not a place friendly to our form of existence.

Galactic radiation would not be good. You never know if we could be blasted into oblivion..http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7148671.stm

I read that at LiveScience.com, I think. I found it fascinating. Nothing like sterilizing a whole galaxy.As far as posing any threat to us, as you probably know by reading, there is none. That particular galaxy is to far away to pose any danger to us and the super-massive black-holes (SMB's) in the galaxies around us, much like our own SMB, are not currently feeding and therefore not producing any high energy radiation jets. Not to mention none are in the right orientation to irradiate us. The greater threat to us, as far as high energy irradiation, would be from a relatively nearby supernova. While there is one (100, 150 or so solar mass, can't really remember) star close by that is ready to go supernova sometime in the next couple million years, it's not close enough.

Oh yeah.. no doubt we're safe but it's just amazing seeing the dynamics going on in the universe.

Heres a good illustration of were we are. Hell, if nothing else I think it' just kinda cool.This is what you'll see once it loads.View the Milky Way at 10 million light years from the Earth. Then move through space towards the Earth in successive orders of magnitude until you reach a tall oak tree just outside the buildings of the National High Magnetic Field Laboratory in Tallahassee, Florida. After that, begin to move from the actual size of a leaf into a microscopic world that reveals leaf cell walls, the cell nucleus, chromatin, DNA and finally, into the subatomic universe of electrons and protons.

When you think of how complex "life" is on this earth and how insignificant we are in the grand scheme of this universe, it's difficult to not imagine that there are countless other sources of "life" out there.

Here's a post I made about that subject quite some time ago. Originally Posted By: OldFolks 12/19/05As for life elsewhere in the universe, I would think it improbable that there aren't at least billions of advanced civilizations out there. Especially considering that there are estimated to be some 50 billion galaxies in the visible universe with an estimated 70 sextillion "visible" stars. To give 70 sextillion a point of reference, that is 10 times the estimated number of grains of sand in all the desserts and on all the beaches on Earth.As for how advanced life elsewhere would be, depends on seemingly endless list of variables. The most important of these variable is the avalibilty of time to develop. The universe, as we know it, is estimated to be between 12 and 14 billion years old. While at least one planet has been found that is estimated to be around 10 billion years old it is the exception, it is huge, gaseous, and more likely a failed star than a true planet. Life as we know it, most likely, requires a terrestrial planet which puts a much greater restriction on time to develop. All heavy elements are forged in the depth of stars and then broadcast into space in giant supernova. Even given that large stars live short lives, it is estimated that there were not enough heavy elements, yet forged, to make non-gaseous objects anything other than rare, until around 8.5 to 9.5 billion years ago. This means that, most likely, any intelligence out there is only 2 or 3 billion years older than us (the age of our solar system). Neglecting all limiting factors, within a solar system, to uninterrupted development, the question then becomes, how does intelligence evolve. Does intelligence grow exponentially, does it grow in spurts with long plateaus in between, does it take one great leap forward then only have low steady growth thereafter. Lastly assuming intelligence grows exponentially, can intelligence ever overcome distance, even for communication, without regard for travel. The speed of light is horribly slow given the scale of space and therefor makes communication between civilizations impractical. In a universe where it will take 1000 years to ask the question and another 1000 years to get the answer(assuming there is somebody reasonably close), with at least one of the parties (us) living only around 100 years, can that communication be, in any real terms, productive and advance both or one of the civilizations. Travel become nearly out of the question, in terms of physics as we understand them. While opening a wormhole is mathematically possible, intelligence still has some major hurtles to cope with. For instance, how do you come up with the practically infinite power needed to keep a wormhole open for longer than a millisecond and big enough to allow passage to anything bigger than a particle, how do you make sure the wormhole dumps you where you wanted to go, once your there how do you get back. There are many other mathematical methods for traversing space but all have their limitations. Chief among those limitations, are, that the results achieved are the results of the laws of physics and not necessarily the results the traveler desires.Now having listed why interaction between civilized societies is at best highly unlikely, the caveat must be applied that all these arguments are based only on physics as we understand in our visible universe. Furthermore our understanding of the true nature of physics is lacking at best and what we observe in physics, with regard to gravitation, electromagnetism and quantum mechanics, is often contradictory and only seems to further obfuscate the finale unifying theory and there-in a complete understanding of the cosmos and all of its variables. Thus leaving open the possibility that, being that, there are many things we do not understand and have yet to discover in just the realm of physics, it is entirely possible that some galactic civilization has conquered all these hurtles and is able to pop in and out of our realm of understanding.The long and short of this is that, while science can say galactic communication between civilizations is unlikely based on our understanding of the universe, science must also add, that given our incomplete understanding of all of the factors and the variables of physics any answer we give is incomplete and therefor invalid, as far as being a matter of fact. So, all in all, all we know is that we don't know enough to give any definitive answer on whether any alien is capable of visiting us. In ending, the door for alien visitation is neither anymore closed or anymore open than it was at the beginning of the exploration of this question.