Pedophile / pervs…

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I think it's a sad fact of life, that maybe kids aren't keenly aware of, that people are going to use them. Friendships end over it, businesses end over it, marriages end over it. Maybe it just hurts more because at young age it's not yet been experienced enough.It's gonna happen, your gonna get used in the course of your life, some motivations are going to be more nefarious than others, so maybe the important thing is to be able to pull the plug on 'em as soon as it's recognized. ...to have the confidence, as you did, to report them or tell 'em fuck off, or I don't care to stay in contact or just get on with your life. The real danger is for the ones who don't know how or don't have the means within themselves to do that.

Quote:what are your thoughts. confused and scared and everythign in between.told u about jack ^ (posts above)a state potroler my dad knew is in jail now for this shit (not internet but really fucking kids) i don't even want to talk about the real reason... 1.it hurts too much 2. i really don't think it's whats going on and 3. at the same time i i'm scared it is. ...the sad part is.... i don't care i just want him back.  Quote:Your right, till he shows to your door with a valid photo ID you best stop all fantasy's, and cyber sex stuff with him. whiel i dk if ur picking at her or not... even if ur pickign it's very true. i mean.. the show ID and stuff. but i have never done nothing like cybering with her.

I think these are good principles.Although there are certainly times when it becomes obvious someone is not good, and there are other people I would stake my life they are genuine, I think it's very often difficult or impossible to be sure. We can't see the person behind the keyboard, and we can't read his mind. Is someone steering conversation to sex because he is an old perv, or a horny teen? There are some people on the site I am far from totally sure about, but I don't think being quick to accuse is helpful, because I think people who believe they can always spot a perv often in fact get it wrong and make false accusations, and a false accusation is a terrible blow to the person accused, and poisons the atmosphere generally. For A2A to work, it has to have a welcoming and accepting atmosphere, rather than one heavy with suspicion. But at the same time it is important for everyone to remember that other people may not be as they seem, and it's right to take reasonable precautions.(BTW, I hope that the difference between good talk and bad talk isn't taken as whether attention is given to a person and not just the problems, because I have been guilty of that. There are people here that I consider as friends, and the arm's-length rule, while very much safer, is not one I can follow myself. It is too cold for me.)The biggest problem, it seems to me, is not physical danger of someone tracking you down - this is extremely rare - but the emotional trauma of finding out that someone you thought you knew, a friend to whom you told your intimate details, was someone else, playing a false game for his own sexual stimulation. That's a horrible thing, but though sdp and I and the mods will do our best, I can see no way we can be sure it will never happen. Everyone needs to bear that in mind.We do stress that anyone who feels another poster is acting suspiciously, or in a way that makes them uncomfortable, should contact an admin or mod. sdp and I can read PMs. We don't do that without reason, but will if necessary to check on anyone suspicious.

Quote: I don't mind your vents. I think of you like one of my kids or something. Don't you have homework you should be doing right now? mom look u miss that mom look smilie don;t u lMAO..no homework.. i skipped school today i had to "work" and i;m suposed to be workign now... i should be in the barn clippign and bathing two horses for tomorrow.... crap! i am suposed to have them ready by 5:30..... i got to get my butt in gear!

but...I was speaking about MR U, not you!

One thing I hate seeing is lots of PM's going on but little to no posting on the boards. I saw that going on between some guy and a girl a couple of years back. I checked out his PM's and it turns out they were deep into talking about masturbation. In the end he was he was coaching her on how and what to do with her fingers etc... I did some research and found out that he was some 40-ish yr old guy with a family etc.. on Myspace. I think he had a picture of his truck with a license plate visible Can't remember if his picture was there too.. probably was. Got his town and everything. I sent him a PM with the info and said I downloaded his pics and was going to send them to the local Police Dept.. Oh shit..... he started begging and pleading and apologizing...You just never know...I also hate people soliciting members to chat via IM... with IM's you are now into the realm of webcams etc.. and that is totally out of our hands. I hate thinking that they come here as a source for young kids...

Originally Posted By: CR125but it has happend... i forgot his sn but his name was jack (if it's a no no to put his name admins / mod can edit it out).they don't do it open forums... it's done in private. threw msn (yahoo / aol) jack was a friend to me for alomost 2 years b4 he got busted. When i told diver and fwd him what was sent to me he was outraged. i dk if diver took it on himself or told other admin / mods here. But jack was turned in. oh man. the irony. I'm pretty good friends with a guy, though his name isn't jack, [well, it's his middle name] and i talk to him on msn. and, i've known him for almost two years now. and, I'm pretty sure he's not a pedophile or anything, because sexual topics rarely come up. he's only supposedly a year and a half older than me. i trust him well enough, but i'm still not a hundred percent sure about him. but yeah. I agree with a lot of things you guys have addressed. it's pretty sad how you can't really trust anyone on here to the fullest extent, because of how many pedophiles there are. i'm generally a suspicious person anyways, because if anyone is TOO nice, or whatever, or trying to be all, hey sweetie, insta-block.

i'm sorry... she told me you meant Mr U. sorry for the miss understanding. still was a good point tho.

Just didnt want ya to think I was picking on you because of no one really knowing who anyone on here is, just taking a slight cheap shot to kick mr U figuratively in the nuts.

There are none, which is why it pays to be vigilant. Well... Actually there are. Quite Simply; if they ask to meet you or if they start illiciting personal information out of you. They could be regular people just wanting to know about other people, but never give any information that might enable someone to track you down. Trust me, Yahoo mail doesn't care if you are actually located on 2253 gingerbread lane, in whooville transivannia, or in the middle of outer space, With the exception of highly secure 'Family' Screenames [Like Aol or something] Do not give real private information out on your user nor to any individual you meet on the internet. Go around telling people you are Darth Vader from the planet Vulcan, it's safer [And a hell of alot funnier]

Originally Posted By: CR125

what are some signs of online Pedophiles?
Doesn't answer the question but is related to the issue.

_Study Debunks Web Predator Myths

By Benjamin Radford, LiveScience's Bad Science Columnist

posted: 06 March 2008 07:35 am ET

Don't believe the hype.

It's not just Flavor Flav's catchphrase, it's good advice for parents, teachers, police, and anyone else concerned about the threat of Internet predators.

According to a new study by researchers at the University of New Hampshire's Crimes Against Children Research Center, most of what you think about Web-based sex predators is probably wrong.

The study, published in the February/March issue of the journal American Psychologist and titled, "Online 'Predators' and Their Victims: Myths, Realities and Implications for Prevention," was based on three surveys: two of teen Internet users, and one involving hundreds of interviews with law enforcement officials. The results reveal that "the stereotype of the Internet 'predator' who uses trickery and violence to assault children is largely inaccurate."

Much of the public's concern comes from fear-mongering journalism. While TV shows like NBC's "To Catch a Predator" and the "Today Show" gain high ratings scaring parents into thinking that threats to children lurk around every corner and abound on the Web, the reality is quite the opposite.

Among the study's findings:

Myth# 1: The sexual abuse of children has jumped, largely because of the surge in Internet predators.

Despite popular belief (and a fact-challenged 2001 "Newsweek" magazine headline that claimed that the Internet has created a "shocking increase in childhood exploitation of children"), sex assaults on teens dropped significantly (more than 50 percent) between 1990 and 2005. Ironically, it is the alarmist news coverage of sex offenses that has jumped dramatically over the past decade---not the attacks themselves.

Myth #2: Internet predators are a new threat to children.

In fact, the largest threat to children always has been, and remains, the child's parents and caregivers. Children are in far more danger of being abused, kidnapped, or killed by their parents than any stranger on the street or on the Web. While the Internet is a new way for some predators to find victims, if the Internet had not been invented they would have found victims in other ways---at home, school, or church, for example.

Myth #3: Children should not interact with strangers online because of the potential for abuse.

If there is one thing that the Internet does better than anything else, it is connecting people who don't know each other. That's the magic of the World Wide Web; it's just as easy to communicate online with someone around the block as around the world. Of course everyone (including kids and teens) should be careful about divulging personal information, but in virtual life, just as in real life, the vast majority of strangers are not a threat.

Myth #4: Most Internet predators are pedophiles.

The public largely assumes that people looking for sex online are targeting young children, but that's not true. In fact, most predators seek relationships and sex from teens and adolescents, not from younger children.

Myth #5: Internet predators often use deception to abduct and forcibly rape their victims.

The reality is that Web predators rarely use deception; most victims are well aware that the person they are communicating with online is an adult interested in sex. The predators rarely trick or force their victims into sex; they don't need to because the victims often voluntarily meet with them, intending to have sex. Most Web predators are guilty of statutory---not forcible---rape because the victim is under the age of consent.

Misplaced concern

There is no doubt that Internet predators are real, and do pose a threat. But the real danger is the public's deeply flawed understanding of the problem.

"To prevent these crimes, we need accurate information about their true dynamics," said Janis Wolak, lead author of the study. "The things that we hear and fear and the things that actually occur may not be the same."

Until the news media start accurately characterizing child sexual abuse and the real dangers of Internet predation, America's children will remain at greater risk._

A very interesting article, and it makes sense.

It does make some sense, but when you watch a show like 'To Catch a Predator' and you see that they arrested 25 people over a weekend who's only purpose was to have sex with a 13/14 year old boy/girl....it's very scary in my opinion.

Yes these are 25 people that at some point in there life may attempt or have attempted to have sex with a teenager. But these are also 25 people that were caught in a matter of a few days. To me it seems the Internet has just sped up the process in finding young victims.

And it really bothers me that this article mentions kids knowing that the other person online is an adult and that they know the adult wants sex....that does NOT make it ok for an adult to have sex with a 14 year old.

Im no pedo, but I am a perv, whats wrong with being a perv? so I enjoy some questionable sexual practices, so what?
Its alwasy been with girls of appropriate age and for 4 years now has only been with a single girl, she doesnt seem to have a problem with it. Scotty, we all know your a perv too as is lil alex,lish, and angel, sexpert..nothing wrong with a bit of perversion :laughing:

"...that they know the adult wants sex....that does NOT make it ok for an adult to have sex with a 14 year old."No it doesn't make it okay but what it does mean is that children are better served by explaining to them the dangers that lie in opening themselves up to such a "relationship", for lack of a better term. I think what there saying is that a child is better equipped when told of the emotional as well as physical hazards of allowing an adult access to them, rather than telling them everybody on line is a perv or a boogie man. The broad blanket statement serve only to handy cap kids, in that, without reason it doesn't mean a whole lot. The conversation that needs to be had is a bit more difficult, that is why getting involved with an older person is detrimental to their well being. Telling kids that everybody they meet on line over the age of 18 is a perv does nothing to protect the ones, who are reported to be the majority, who voluntarily engage in sexual relationships with older people.

I'm offended Chance... you left my name out LoL :wink:

Your not a perv... your just a dirty boy... and I've got the proof. You won't be a perv until after I get a hold of ya.Yeah, Chance I know I'm perv. As a matter of fact I'm not just a member I'm the president.

eddie, look at all the people I know on this site and have come to think of as a buddy, I left alot of them out, yourself included, but it was from not being able to remember all the names at the time i was typing, far to many people sprang to mind and overwhelmed me, it was an accidental slight I swear to you.

I believe Chance forgot you on accident Eddie. He has had alot on his mind. Mixing the soundtrack for the video of Mr. U and myself. That's alot of work you know.

Just wanted to point out that being a perv isnt a bad thing,its the fucking pedos and predators you gotta watch out for, but a standard perv....they can be a good thing to find.