Unforgiveable sin

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Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfAbsolutely not. Say someone said something incredible cruel about someone you love and you take offense, does that not mean you truly don't love that person?? Same concept applies when it comes to Christians and how they love their God.Wrong. You don't know me well enough to assume how I'd react in that situation. If your going to make comparissons, let's use the EXACT concept. Let's face it, 'Tuna cunt' is hardly a constructive, 'incredibly cruel' insult. Not unless you were raised in Tellytubby land anyway.If someone called someone I love that, it wouldn't "hurt" me in any sense of the word. Chances are, that person would be so irrelevant to me, and the one that I love, that I'd dismiss it completely. I'd accept that there are people that think differently to me, and I'd let them get on with it.My comment certainly wasn't ignorant. I knew full well why I was saying it, and the point I wanted to make. I wouldn't take it back, and I'd say it again.~Jay

Quote:I dont think you should burn in hell..But you just said:Quote:But hey, they deserve to be there.And how did God help you? Were you stuck in a fire and he gave you fire extinguisher? Did you lose your hand in a boating accident and he grew it back for you? Were you feeling really low and he gave you a piece of chocolate? Or did you think to yourself that what happened is God's plan, and that it happened for a good reason that you just don't know about? Because that is not God helping, that is you rationalizing the situation so it doesn't hurt as much. That is you protecting yourself.God has made no physical appearance, made no physical miracles. Out of the millions of people who have gone to Lourdes over the past 100 years, there have only been about 66 miracles. And not a single one of them had diseases that could not already be cured. Not a single one of them had limbs regrown. Not a single act of divinity has ever been proven.

>It pains me inside to know that someday those assholes who speak that way about god are going to be spending the rest of their lives in a place i would never want to see. But hey, they deserve to be there.

I look forward to it. I doubt God would tolerate me listening to Metal. Then again, it needn't "pain" you. Ignorance is bliss. I don't believe in your hell, so leave me to it - you, happy in the knowledge that I shall "burn for all eternity" in payment of my sins.

You have very selfish opinions. You've got a false sense of elitism because you believe in something I've more sense not to. Well if I change my mind when it's too late, I'm sure I'll be content with my VIP pass into Hell. I'll get to burn out with The Big D himself.

>From Damien: I think anyone who actively denies God and chooses to blaspheme Jesus is an arrogant, pretentious, bitter dipshit.

A lovely example of a fascist Christian. Everything you are is repugnant to me. Hurry up and piss off to Heaven then. If there was a God, I'm sure you'd be high on his 'drown list'. Where the arrogant, pretentious and bitter comes from is beyond me.

The dipshit comment, although more subtle, is on level with my Tuna Cunt remark. You're just as bad - "offending" those that don't believe the same as you. Yes, I used blaspheme for effect, but one of your cronistians has told us we deserve to burn in hell which is very much on par. We're all equal now, bitches - it's just I'm not offended by your bullshit.

(Not directed to you Bob, you were just last to post)I have a statement to anyone willing to listen to take the challenge:Prove to me God does not exist and we will talk.I find it disturbing people have this mentality of "Oh well if it offends you, it's your fault". I think it just really shows how horrible humanity is anymore. People are so willing to throw blame on other people when the person they should put blame is on himself or herself.Again my main point that people have over looked though I have stated this many times, people need to have more respect for each other on these forums, regardless if it's religion or another topic. There are REAL PEOPLE behind these screen names and that’s something people here really need to remember. Is it really worth saying something that is going to offend another person just because it doesn't personally offend you?? I am not saying people cannot have their own options, PLEASE DO!! But why resort to childish immature name calling, even if it’s towards a deity you don’t believe in? Especially when you know there will be people who will be hurt and/or take offense to your words? Just seems pointless and immature to me.Sorry that was a slight ramble I suppose, but having one of those days I suppose lol

I think the thread title should be changed to "Unforgiveable Tuna Cunt" for kicks. Angelwitch, you've got a sense of humour....

Originally Posted By: Jay18I think the thread title should be changed to "Unforgiveable Tuna Cunt" for kicks. Angelwitch, you've got a sense of humour.... And I think now you are just looking for responses to your antics. Just my opinion though..

Absolutely. In response to your last post;I find it highly amusing that anyone behind a computer screen would find me calling God a tuna cunt (of all insults!) offensive. If they're that stupid, and sensitive - they deserve to be offended. Get over it.Comments like that don't represent a downfall of humanity, it's a reluctance to communicate on a serious level with imbeciles.

You have seriously missed the point and have shown you have little respect for other people. The fact you use the excuse that it's okay to offend people because it's over the Internet just really rings loud and clear to me.

And I am not trying to be rude it just blows my mind that people have the attitude "If you get offended, it's your fault" when the person who said such a remark knows it's going to offend someone when they said it. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions instead of trying to push it on other people.

Quote:I have a statement to anyone willing to listen to take the challenge:Prove to me God does not exist and we will talk.I'm quoting Steve here a bit, but as he has always said, it is near impossible to prove the negative. Prove to me that there is not a tribe of Indians living on Mars. Or prove to me that the jug of milk in my fridge does not answer my prayers. You can't!So it is up to you, or anyone willing, to prove that God does exist!There are many reasons why Religion and Science do not go together, but many people think that they can get along peacefully. Sadly, I am not one of those people. As long as the ignorance that is religious faith continues to create war and reduce our growing civilization into rival clans based on ancient, primitive explanations of the world, we will continue to crawl slowly through the existance of our species until some radical ideal will destroy us all in the name of God.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself(Not directed to you Bob, you were just last to post)I have a statement to anyone willing to listen to take the challenge:Prove to me God does not exist and we will talk.Eddie, prove to me that I can't fly, and that a rainbow doesn't come out everytime I fart.

Bob you beat me to it, I went off to answer a call, came back and hit post - and you had it. Slag.

Originally Posted By: bobalicious You can't!So it is up to you, or anyone willing, to prove that God does exist! Actually the burden of proof, in my opinion, would be on both sides simply because both sides there are people trying to say they are right. Problem is, as you stated, these will never be a time when one or the other will be proven as fact; only personal belief.My point is ideally people just need to respect each other regardless of what they believe. Granted that will never happen 100% of the time. But I think if everyone were more aware and cautious of what they say, thing would have a more harmonious tone.

Originally Posted By: Jay18Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself(Not directed to you Bob, you were just last to post)I have a statement to anyone willing to listen to take the challenge:Prove to me God does not exist and we will talk.Eddie, prove to me that I can't fly, and that a rainbow doesn't come out everytime I fart. Easy.. Jump off a bridge and see if you fly.. and fart and I'll tell you if I can see a rainbow... ready?? Your rebuttal has no relevance as you are talking about something you can physically grasp, but this conversation is about spirituality, something you physically cannot see or touch.

That isn't right at all. There is no proof that I could possibly offer that will be accepted by you. For thousands of years every scientific discovery has been spun into God's great work. The rising Sun was once attributed to gods, but when we discovered how it really worked, the story changed and it again became God's work!Religion offers no proof, no evidence. Only feelings, unsubstantiated claims that can be faked as easily as a fart noise.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfYou have seriously missed the point and have shown you have little respect for other people. The fact you use the excuse that it's okay to offend people because it's over the Internet just really rings loud and clear to me. And I am not trying to be rude it just blows my mind that people have the attitude "If you get offended, it's your fault" when the person who said such a remark knows it's going to offend someone when they said it. People need to start taking responsibility for their actions instead of trying to push it on other people.No, I havent missed your point. You didn't make much of one, and you didn't listen to mine.Since you don't know me, you can't possibly assume I wouldn't voice my opinions offline. Because I do, and I have. People that know and like me, respect me for that. If that makes me an asshole to you, then may I be the best asshole you'll ever come across. No gay pun intended whatsoever.That comment was posted, and respect for other posters ensued when I read their replies. Everyone starts off with a small amount of respect with me, then it rises or falls. "No! God is good" doesn't make me respect someone more, as much as it makes me laugh. Comments such as "Jay, I don't agree with that because [insert non imbecile opinion]" is fine, I'll respect that persons opinion.I stand by what I said. I struggle to imagine how a devout Christian would be offended by THAT remark if they 'knew' otherwise - if someone is offended by me, an anonymous internet user, saying something like tuna cunt - then they ARE some form of imbecile.

Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyselfOriginally Posted By: Jay18Originally Posted By: NtroducingMyself(Not directed to you Bob, you were just last to post)I have a statement to anyone willing to listen to take the challenge:Prove to me God does not exist and we will talk.Eddie, prove to me that I can't fly, and that a rainbow doesn't come out everytime I fart. Easy.. Jump off a bridge and see if you fly.. and fart and I'll tell you if I can see a rainbow... ready?? Your rebuttal has no relevance as you are talking about something you can physically grasp, but this conversation is about spirituality, something you physically cannot see or touch. Maybe my power of flight, and rainbow farts only occur when they want to - just like miracles. Maybe you won't be around when I start flying, or when I have a rainbow fart.

So bob.. when your friend helps you from something tragic in your life.. say your girlfriend broke up with you.. youre friend doesnt go out and kill the bitch.. they are there.. they listen.. and comfort..Just because god isnt physically with me.. doesnt mean hes not there. When I go to my best friends grave.. shes not physically with me.. but I know shes there.. i cant see her.. but i can feel her.

Quote:You have very selfish opinions. You've got a false sense of elitism because you believe in something I've more sense not to. Well if I change my mind when it's too late, I'm sure I'll be content with my VIP pass into Hell. I'll get to burn out with The Big D himself. So my opinions are selfish because i believe in the exact opposite of you? Well, your opinions are very selfish. You have a false sense of believing. I guess I just have more sense to believe.

Well thats completely different. When you break up with your bf, your friend is physically there. They are sitting right beside you, or they are sitting physically on the other end of a physical phone line. They are talking back to you. They are assisting. Whether what they say or do is helpful to you in any way is completely personal to you.When you go visit a friend's grave, again it is in your head that she is there with you. Yes, her physical body is there, 6 feet under your feet. But anything more than that is in your head. Anything you feel is in your head.

hey steph, it's hard for people to understand where you're coming from if they've never experienced it. shoo I wouldn't believe half of the things I've gone through with Him if I hadn't experienced it. just look at my sig lol