Love at first sight?

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is it love what changes? we are the ones that change. yet we fail to notice the things and how we change. it is such a fluid thing.

if you delve deep into what a human constitutes, you will simply see ourselves governed by fears, and insecurities. it is deep in our cores. we all have our dark secrets that we don't share because of our pride.

what are your fears? lol

what about the things you do to deal it with it even if you fail to notice it? isn't pain such an umpleasant thing? isn't loneliness such an umpleasant thing? can't help it, can we?

People and emotions change, which is a good thing. The likely hood that you will evolve and change at the same rate and way as another person is a rare thing, but it happens, and its a good thing. I don't really...have any dark secrets that he doesn't already know, or that I'm ashamed to tell him, and it's fine with me if he has secrets. He's still his own person and should be treated and respected as such. Pain unpleasant? You're talking to a former cutter. Lonliness? I comfortable enough with myself to where I don't mind being alone. All things come to an end, but being so cynical and jaded to not enjoy something while you have is just ignorant and stupid.

i know what cynical is, but what is jaded? lol"pain umpleasant? you're talking to a former cutter" ? light up, i am having fun, so should you! have a good laugh!what makes you think i am jaded? lol, so funny! so what degree of intensity in the scale of ignorance and stupidness did i score? good debate, thought.

jaded is...like the attitude you get after a lot of bad experiences. there havent been many good debates around here since steve got banned

actualy jaded is when you are dulled after a lot of repetitive ness and get really worn out and wearied. The other guy is partialy right i think we search for love to fill a void in our lifes, but its not an insecurity, its a want to have someone to help you get through the day. someone you can care about and they can care about you. someone you can share your life with. He is however wrong about us not shareing deep dark secrets out of pride, its out of fear, fear of social regection, I have however told my gf most of my horrible secrets, and she has done the same with me.

it's funny actually. when my sister first saw her now husband at New York University, he told me he was thinking "wow she's so beautiful with a lovely voice" and she told me she was thinking "get this Nazi away from me" lol. my sister used to be USED TO be very paranoid about certain people so you better believe she gave him a run for his money. I think they were friends for 6-8 months before he got serious with her. it may have been "love at first sight" to him but... she's just weird like that. always has been, always will.

What is your definition of love, zell_ditch?

I don't believe in fate. I think we all have free will and therefore we make our own way.Soul mates... I believe there are certain people in this world that work on wavelengths so close to each other that they mesh almost perfectly. Even when they change, they change together elaborately. I've met 1 woman in my life who I mesh with almost perfectly. We've both radically changed over the course of time and yet after all that change we still mesh almost perfectly. The only reason why we're not together because of circumstances. We laugh about it and credit the irony toward God's sense of humor.Love at first sight? My definition of love, it's impossible to love at first sight.

Quote:Fate, soul mates, love at first sight? Anyone ever experience it, know it, believe in it? Do I believe in fate... yes, but I believe that our actions are what leads us to it. Soul mates? Of course I believe in soul mates, I truly believe there is one out there for everyone even if it's not a romantic relationship. Do I believe in love at first sight? I do... but that could be because I'm a sap! lol

"...it's impossible to love at first sight."

thank you.

you can see someone and have them catch your eye, but if you love them it is not because of that. it is the subsequent getting to know them, and being one with them. love has a varying definition from person to person. the only way to figure it out for yourself is to experience it and share it.

heh, i think it has been lost since the very beginning. it is my personal opinion that we as humans don't really love. P.S- just call me zell.

tell me, if there is a soul mate, then that person could be anyone. someone from the same sex, an animal, whatever. just what makes you think you can susentiate if there is truly a soul mate but an illusion from your part and your flawed interpretaion that there is just one soul mate? what makes you think we are supposed to lead monogonous relationships? i'd like for you to answer those few questions. thanks.

It could be someone from the same sex, not an animal because its you can't fall in love with an animal, nor can they give consent. What makes you think that people are incapable of an amazing verb or emotion. Maybe we're not supposed to lead monogamous relationships, but so what? if we choose to, that's great if it's a mutual decision not to, then that's great as well.

why do you think we look to others as a form of solance? as soon as we are born we are introduced to a world where we are a sponge. we as creatures need constant attention. a social world is something that defines us, and it is part of our mental health. why do strangers look to other strangers? because they feel lonely. they feel empty. they even lead successful lives, yet they feel the need to share things.

am i saying to deny ourselves of our nature, to become ourselves spartans? i am saying not to romantize something we all know too well.

yes, people are imcapable of an amazing verb or emotion. there you have summed up my argument. we deceive ourselves to this verb, and to these fantasies, and false sense of securities so that we don't feel lonely, and we can sleep at night. it is part of our desires to bond with other people.

we lead monogonous relationships in part of the way most modern societies have it now. so, what happens if we lead polygonous lifestyles, do we have more than one soul mate?

Well yea, no one said how many soul mates there are, or even if they're romantic or not.

I'm rather curious as to how old you are? You wont convince me or anyone else that we are incapable of love, it is of course not a fixed construct, it has no solid deffinition, but it does exist, I am currently in love with a most beautiful girl, i love my parents, love is different for everyone, to me, love boils down to thoughts and deeds, if you think you love someone, you do

First off, do not put words in my mouth. Did I say that there was only one soul mate for every person? I don't believe that's what I said. I said that I believe that there is one out there for ever person regardless of them being tied to you in the romantic sense; who says they can't be your best friend? I personally believe that when you meet your soul mate(s) that you bond in such a way that can only be described as 'love' and love comes in many forms and shapes. Love isn't always about romance or sex; there is more to it than that and to me it isn't just a 'verb' or simple 'emotion'. Can your soul mate be of the same gender as you or even of the opposite sex? Sure, why can't they be? Who said that there is some guideline? You don't pick and choose who they are; they just are in my personal opinion. Who said anything about thinking 'we' as humans were meant to lead monogamous lives when it comes to romantic relationships? If YOU, as a person, feel the need to have multiple partners in order to have a fulfilling physical relationship then get on with your bad self; I personally prefer monogamy.

i think in this case age isn't much help. and regarless, i will not disclose my age. i was stating my opinion, and my point on this discussion. and well, i just stated my point across, and i feel debating this more than what it is a waste of everyone's time.