Religion

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Kinda needs to be a religion forum on here
But anyway.
Used to when i was a kid, I beleived in God and Jesus
I never thought much about it though, I just went to church, never did much else or thought about it much else. I was just a kid.
As i got older and my life turned shitty from almost every angle possible, I stopped beleiving there was a god.
Why would God do this to my life if there was one?
Plus religion doesnt make sense at all once you really think about it.
But anyway I stopped beleiving in God for awhile.
And over time my life continued to get worse, and throughout it, i thought things like....maybe God is punishing me for not beleiving in him.
Anyway, after my life got in the lowest hole possible, after my cosmetic nose surgery turned out horrible (pics in another thread), which was something i actully sat down and prayed would work out, after my best freind moved, after i lost most of my freinds in school.
I lost all faith there could be a God.
So anyway, I've prayed various other times after this too.
I've asked god things like....well i told him that I don't have any reason to beleive in him, and I don't know if I want to or not, but that if he really is real, i do want to beleive in him, and i prayed for him to somehow help me out with something in my troubles right now, and that if i seem to get some help, it will help me beleive in him.
And i told him that if he shows me something that could make me beleive in him, and that following him does lead up to a better life, then I'll have no problem beleiving in him.

But its just that, you know, I can't sit around and beleive in God and waste my time in that, if my life on earth is just gonna be hell anyway. I think if there was a god, he would have blessed me with a much better life. He wouldn't have gave me one that made me doubt his existance.

And another thing, I think i would kill myself right now if not for two things:
I want to live a couple more years to see if there's any way possible my life could get better.
I want to somehow find out that God is real, or have a reason to beleive, that way before i die, I won't go to hell, if there is such a thing.

Its just....why would God create a life like mine?
Why is it there are tons of people out there leading great lives, and he chose mine to be hell.

I see you're 15. I'm 14, also a guy, and I'm going through a lot of crap myself right now. I really need there to be a GOd right now too. (I'll write you privately when I can.)Maybe we can help each other. I hope so. I need a friend right now.

You live in America? Dude, you're not living in hell. You wanna see hell? Go live in Somalia, the Sudan, go live in the favelas in Brazil, or the ranchos in Venezuela. You live like a king, but since you're clueless to the world around you, you feel like a slave.The world is not about how narrow your nose is, but if your mind is too narrow then you miss the way of the world.GOD doesnt only help those who are ugly, he helps those who are hungry. I think they DESERVE to be first in line. Praying for better cosmetic surgery? I think about 2099th in line.

Originally Posted By: SexpertGOD doesnt only help those who are ugly, he helps those who are hungry. I think they DESERVE to be first in line. Praying for better cosmetic surgery? I think about 2099th in line. If God is God, then He could help everyone at anytime with anything, God chooses not to help us. Can we ever be happy if we are ever sad? Can we truly love God if we never lived without him? I think pain and suffering are a necessary thing in our world and God allows it all because of our sin. We shall have to live with it until the world ends and sin is destroyed.But thats just my opinion. I loved to hear someone elses.

Quote:I think pain and suffering are a necessary thing in our world and God allows it all because of our sin. We shall have to live with it until the world ends and sin is destroyed.Yes, because this is a fallen world - a good world gone bad. It is not how God intended or wants. But the Christian view is not that a particular person's pain and suffering is the result of his/her particular sin. The book of Job is written against this idea. And see Luke 13:1-5. In Christianity God does not fix everything when asked (because that would make a very different world, one in which people had no real choices); instead God shares the suffering.

Once more, you are somewhat similar to me, SomeoneYoung.

But I won't try to explain in a post, I'll just link to a thread I made a very long time ago. That should explain how I feel about God:
http://www.afraidtoask.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/95147/page/21#Post95147

Well, im 17, i just havent changed my signiture in 2 years.But i do think that God should help out with whatever problem we're going through.Clearly in america people aren't going through the same problems as people in Africa.Personally if it were my choice ide live in a land that wasnt as "appearance-based" as america, but that isnt my fault, so I'm trying to live a happy, normal life that most people live in america.And everyone has their certian-steps to that i think.But Yeah, i could go to africa and live like a king.But here i live like a loner, I'm sure there are people over in Africa happier than me just because of the statuses America has created.Heck, if daily life things like food, clothing, and that stuff could make me truly happy and get me out of depression rather than worrying about my apparance, I'de have rather been born in some other country.But honestly this is America, and no one cares how much food you have.Most people in society HAVE to be social to be happy.It's all a part of finding your soul mate, settling down, and having a normal life.Most really ugly people can't acheive that, and even if they do, usually they still arent happy.Personally I'de have love to be born in England about 1000 years ago or so. No one cared about appearance then, it was just if you were like a brave knight or something.But you know, most societies have always had their veiws on what's good about appearance.1,000 years ago, if you were a knight in shining armor, you were a hottie.200 years ago, if you were a rich man in a tux you were a hottie60 years ago, if you greased your hair back you were a hottie20 years ago, mulletsnow = no one cares what your style is cuz they'rs so many as long as your face is hotNow's the toughest time to live in too. Your job, especially if you want one in music or acting, your gf/bf, your success in school, and how loved you are by people all depends on your looks. And it doesn't take more than a look on your tv or in some high school to tell you that.And with God, i think that God should help you out on what you pray on. I think that if you pray that all turns out well with a major surgery, he shouldn't ruin it by making it go wrong. Why would he want to do that? Maybe if i was truly happy with my life, then i could stop worrying about myself and worry more about others like Africa, wouldn't god want that?So like, you know, one main reason i dont beleive in god is because no matter how many chances and opportunities i have in life, they always fail. God could give me one chance that falls through and life shouldn't be a living hell if you want to beleive in him.Thats probably why some countries are suffering.They don't beleive in god do they?Seems like all the well off countries do.

But honestly this is America, and no one cares how much food you have.I'm an american citizen, and I care how much food I have. Maybe once you go hungry for a few days because you can't afford food, you'll agree with me. You never know what you have until it's gone.> Most people in society HAVE to be social to be happy.I don't know if it's a requirment, but it certainly helps. Now who said you had to be hot to be social?> It's all a part of finding your soul mate, settling down, and having a normal life.Says who?> Most really ugly people can't acheive that, and even if they do, usually they still arent happy.Now that's just a generalization. You're saying that in order to be happy, you have to good looking. You really think all happy people are good looking? I'd say about 75% of America is unahppy if that were true.> And it doesn't take more than a look on your tv or in some high school to tell you that.Those are THE two worst examples you could've given. EVERYTHING in high school is about being accepted and fitting in. TV is fake, period. Trust me, once you're out of high school, you'll actually start seeing MATURE people who won't care how you look.> Why would he want to do that?Maybe God is trying to tell you that your nose is fine, and you shouldn't try to change your nose?> They don't beleive in god do they?Are you kidding me? EVERY country, no matter how rich or poor, has their own God they worship. Even Africa (which is a continent, but you know what I mean).

Whats up dude? I am about 10 years older than you, but I know where your comming from. You are in one of the hardest times of your life psychologically. I haven't signed on here in a VERY long time, but I am trying to bring myself out of a slump myself, so I figured I would see whats going on in here. There is probably a reason why there isnt a religious forum. I think it might have something to do with the large amounts of extremely insane people following one of the abrahamic religions. They tend to get verbally and physically violent. NOT ALL OF THEM, but enough. I saw a really funny shirt that said "organised religion, the first weapon of mass destruction!" First off, I don't believe in God. I use to pray ALLLLLL the time and amazingly things actually happened for me, not all of them, but some. Trust me your life will get better, as long as you make good decisions and take care of yourself.I don't believe in hell either. That is just a stigma branded into the human thought process long ago to stop us from doing bad. I don't really think organised religions are a bad thing because they influence a lot of people to do good too!Alright, well one thing I have noticed is this. Did you ever notice that most of the time the people that are for the most part perfect physically have the personality of a gerbal? Now, all those people who are socially the coolest things since sliced bread, will most the time turn out to be complete failures. What doesn't kill you will only make you stronger!

Quote:And over time my life continued to get worse, and throughout it, i thought things like....maybe God is punishing me for not beleiving in him. And people wonder why I hate the entire concept of gods...

Quote:> And it doesn't take more than a look on your tv or in some high school to tell you that.Those are THE two worst examples you could've given. EVERYTHING in high school is about being accepted and fitting in. TV is fake, period. Trust me, once you're out of high school, you'll actually start seeing MATURE people who won't care how you look. And also, many people in high school get their beliefs about social structures and general life from TV. So you've basically got bullshit being fuelled by bullshit.

Well still, after i get uot of high school, i still wanna look more like how i wanna look.No one gets that.I could be the only person left on earth, and if i still think im ugly, ill be depressed about it.Yes, i do want the benefits that come along with being beautiful, but thats no where near the reason i want to look beautiful/hot whatever.I just want to have a good time with my life.And i feel like looking good is the only way im going to do that.Cuz no matter what i do, i feel like im ugly and i look stupid.And I just want to be comfortable with my looks so that i can be proud, hold my head up high, and do life.I just explain all the "everyone else judges me" thing becuase it's a reason that i know im ugly.Being or not being around people isnt gonna change how i think of my looks.But beleive me though, i'll be around people my whole life.I'm going to sing when i get out of high school, and i'll be living on the streets before i give that up.Im going to do whatever it takes to make that dream come true because its all i have.But with that, getting up on stage, and pictures and stuff like that ill need to be comfortable in my own skin, and thats not going to happen till my nose doesn't look so much like a fucking santa nose.Because if my singing dream comes true, it's gonna require good looks.Especially for the type of music im going to sing.It's just, looking ugly as fuck, and looking normally attractive means the difference for me between sitting back hating life and never experiancing anything or going out there, being happy, making my dreams come true, and accepting that my life was good when i die.I've been trying to get over my looks my entire life but with my parents beleiving depression meds are drugs, its kinda hard. (Even my best freind talked to my mom about letting me have depression meds and she said "oh i dont think my son needs to be doped up on drugs")So you know people, im done arguing with everyone, and im pissy tonight. im TIRED of seeing beautiful people, and me looking like shit, and its even tougher on me because im BI and i have that thing where guys can be hot to me, and when i see a guy that i think is hot, and i look like shit compared to him, it makes me feel like SHIT. Just imagine guys or girls, if you felt you looked worse THAN your bf/gf. It would suck.And for my life, I plan on being with a GUY, so to really do that, i need to look good where i wont feel like shit compared to my bf. I've had chances with guys before and they all failed because i felt i was so ugly compared to them that everytime ide talk to them ide cry. JUST IM SICK OF IT.I Want to feel normal for a change.....I want to feel confident, and i just want to find someone to be with, and is that so much to ask? everyone in the world wants the same, but my standards are too high to be with some ugly fat guy. I want to be with someone hot and exiting, and beleive me my standards arent that high, but i just want someone hot in their own way, and always feel like shit cuz i just dont think im hot even in a small way.

A relationship isn't a competition about looks, Someone young. How could a relationship thrive like that? All looks fade.

Its not a competition, but i want to feel somewhat equal to who I'm with, I don't want to be in a relationship where my bf's really hot and im really ugly. It would make me feel bad.That's like my favorite comedian Sharolaid. He's like this drag queen or whatever but he does it for comedy for his videos, but in real life he is gay, and he has a ugly, fat, 30 or 40 year old bf, and he's 22, and hot ide say. It's worked out for them since they've been together, but Sharolaid always gets alotta comments on why he has such a ugly boyfreind. And personally I think that'd happen to me, and I can't put up with something like that.I had a guy once who lived out of state that i got close to and he told me that "he didnt think most people would think im hot but he thought i was really hot in my own way"I just can't stand comments like thatI want to be a general standard of hot that would attract alot of people. I want to look good where at least someone would randomly see me and be like "dang he's cute i wanna talk to him"And there's alotta competition in the gay world, cuz there's not alot of gays in one town, and gays have a habit of being ugly, (at least thats how it is around here) so its pretty tough getting with someone who is decent if your not. And the reason why i want a hot guy is cuz at least around here, the hot gays/bis are the only ones that act decently normal like me, and all the ugly ones act like fagots and thats not my thing.

Well I dunno what else to tell you. I hope someday you get over this need to be "hot". I understand you want it for yourself, but it seems obvious to me that you want it more for other people. There's other ways to be accepted than just being hot.So I hope one day you realize that looks don't make or break your life.

Originally Posted By: Someone youngAnd there's alotta competition in the gay world, cuz there's not alot of gays in one town, and gays have a habit of being ugly, (at least thats how it is around here) so its pretty tough getting with someone who is decent if your not. And the reason why i want a hot guy is cuz at least around here, the hot gays/bis are the only ones that act decently normal like me, and all the ugly ones act like fagots and thats not my thing. SOO much wrong with that paragraph lol. "gays" have a habit of being ugly? You're right might just be in your area, but homosexuals are like straight people, they are a mix of good looking and ugly.And the hot ones are the only ones that act normal?? Wow... in my experience the overly attractive ones are usually the ones who are stuck on themselves. Those are the ones I cannot stand to be around because it's always "me, me, me"... gets old fast. Personally give me a grounded person regardless of looks and you'll win me over a hell of a lot faster.And how do "Faggots" act? LoL. That's just silly coming from a gay/bi person like yourself. Classing the people you identify yourself with, with homophobic stereotyping probably isn't in your best interest. Now if you mean you prefer men who are more straight acting, than I can relate. Men who are on the feminine side don't do anything for me sexually, but I can certainly be friends with them.

I mean faggots like gays who cheerlead and not for the reason straight guys do. (if you know what i mean lol)And gays who are like "OMG these shoes are SO fabulous at aeropostle."And there isn't really any other way to get alot of "chances" at finding a bf/gf if your not really attractive, sorry.Everyone says ill "eventually" find someone, but i want to be hot where i have more chances than just "eventually" like waiting till im 25 to find my first real gf/bf. I don't want that.

But you are attractive.

Originally Posted By: Someone youngI mean faggots like gays who cheerlead and not for the reason straight guys do. (if you know what i mean lol)Nope have no clue what you mean, sorry. I would think whether straight or gay you'd be doing cheerleading for the same reasons.  Quote: And gays who are like "OMG these shoes are SO fabulous at aeropostle."Okay so you don't like the more feminine guys, that Ic an understand. Everyone has a different taste in the people they are attracted to.  Quote: And there isn't really any other way to get alot of "chances" at finding a bf/gf if your not really attractive, sorry.First off you are attractive and the sooner you start seeing that the better your chances are for finding a gf/bf. Confidence is important for most people.

Originally Posted By: Someone youngIts just....why would God create a life like mine?Why is it there are tons of people out there leading great lives, and he chose mine to be hell. There's just no intelligent way to respond to this.One day, you will realize these problems of yours are infinitely petty compared to the problems faced by the majority of the world's population.