This forum has been a pretty crappy place as of late. I think we should be embarassed at the way we've acted, especially those of us who are adults. I'm saying this cause I'm partially responsible. It is so easy to set a disagreement or discussion get out of hand. I know that far too many times Steve and I get caught up in unending pissing contests. He might object to that characterization, but that's how it feels. He says something that I feel is way off base or out of line and I feel like I just can't let it go...so I don't. And then the next thing you know the thread has become this series of long drawn out posts from the two of us. I'm sure they bore folks to death and drive many away. I realize they are probably counterproductive. I dunno...what am I saying...I just feel like people have become very nasty as of late, and although I don't think I've started anything bad, I fear I might have helped to perpetuate it. I hate the thought of some of the folks here seeing me as "that guy who gives Steve what he deserves". That's not my intention at all. Steve is a smart guy. Real smart. I don't always agree with or appreciate what he does with his smarts...but then again, I don't always appreciate everything I do with my own smarts.Okay, I'm ranting. I gues what it boils down to is that I'm sorry if I have been responsible for hijacking threads, scaring others away, dragging something on too damned long, contributing to a hostile milieu...whatever. I'm truly sorry.I shall try to do better.Drinks are on the house!
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Please read
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it seems some can't differentiate between debate and attack
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When you say "this forum", do you mean this Web site? There are a few battle-threads, mainly in the Community Forum, and I would assume that folks with weaker constitutions would steer clear of them. Are there a bunch of flame war thread in the Female Genitalia forum that I'm not aware of?Maybe you should peruse the forums from the "Main Index" view.Frankly, as someone who's so full of opinions, I would have liked to see you chime in with something constructive on the discrimination battle threads. I'm a bit disappointed.
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Sorry to disappoint you Steve.I've said my piece.And yes I did mean web site.
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and im sorry to say hon, that everytime someone posts a thread like this one, it carries on the arguments.
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I really appreciate the spirit in which you posted this, damien.We shouldn't be afraid to disagree. It can be dangerous sometimes to feel so closely bonded that no-one dares challenge something someone else says. It may need challenging. I've heard that there were a number of people in Kennedy's inner circle who knew there would be problems with the Bay of Pigs invasion, but they kept silent to show solidarity and not rock the boat. They should have spoken up.So we should be able to disagree with each other. But let's do it with respect for the other person's right to disagree with us, and let's try to keep cool and having said our piece, leave it at that.
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Damien, you don't have to be so strict to yourself. This is only a forum and it's perfectly natural to argue with someone here. Of course, I don't mean to encourage someone flaming every single thread here. But, we cannot always act like adults and calm. There can be sometimes intense between two people.Anyway, I'd just like to say that both of you are awesome people and this forum would look far more dull without you :P
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I agree. I'm not saying we shouldn't have debates, or that I won't join them. I guess I'm just saying that there is typically a point at which things should be left alone and I've been guilty of helping to drag things way beyond that. ...and I'm also not here to be anyone's hero. That really bothers me.But anyway...bring up a topic, throw in some diverse opinions, foster a healthy, respectful discussion, and I'm in (But my standards for "healthy" and "respectful" will heretofore be pretty high.)
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Henceforth, we should all have high standards. Heretofore, we didn't always.
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Deal.Deal?
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"We" does not equal "me". I've always had high standards, haven't I? I don't think New Years resolutions last very long. We should all do our best, but we will never be perfect.
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SCREW ALL OF YOU!!! IM RIGHT. Just playing. If everyone would do what I do. Just ignore the people who annoy you. This forum would be a better place.
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In reply to: SCREW ALL OF YOU!!! IM RIGHT.Just playing as the one that is always right, I knew you were "just playing"
