A question to all.

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Have you ever been judged, wrongly or unfairly because of an action, something you said,or even because of something someone said that about you that wasn't even true?Was it a friend who misjudged you? How did it make you feel? How did you resolve it?

i can remember once being wrongly accused by a friend of stealing something of hers ..yeah i must admit this hurt a lot because up until then i had been always open to her and i thought she knew me better than to know im not like that... the funny thing was we were always borrowing things back and forward but when she accused me of this i was well and truelly shocked !.... this was later made up as i knew that everyone makes mistakes and so this was a mistake she has made i am pleased to say we still lend eachother everything but i cant pretend i wasnt hurt !erm as for being judged by something i said i must admit that is a hard one as people say things they dont mean all the time ( for eg the wrong word may have been used of etc etc or someone may have taken it the wrong way ) this is why i find it hard for someone to judge on barely a few mis placed words (presuming they were) and yes i am sure with a good talk and "talk about it" oh and a little time and space i am sure / hope it will all be finehope i helped :S

Yes. When I helped my bf open a bank account and enroll in school his family absolutely vilified me. All I was trying to do was help him out, but somehow I became a money hungry, son stealing, horrible person. Im like wtf? Yes my name is on the account, but Ive never deposited or withdrew a single cent.I tried and tried to resolve it, but it just didnt work. I explained my motives until the cows came home, but to no avail. Only as time passed and they saw what my true intentions were did I get any resolution. I still get mad just thinking about it.

it seems that the 5000+ posts i have mean nothing, and i am being judged on two posts, I am not the ONLY one who said something. A PM sent to me by Helmsman >>>>>> Please try to be nice, I would rather that the trusted members, the veterans hekp to elevate the status of teh board and it responses, instead of bringing it down.I am going to form a clique of nice people, and we are going to take over. I'm not the only one that thinks you are mean. I know you can be nice and helpful if you so choose. I fully expect this post to be deleted and myself banned for standing up for myself, but I feel i have been judged SO unfairly, and it may not matter to any of you lot out there, but it matters to me.

Yes, I've been judged wrongly or unfairly before. I think everyone has. Odd, because I know I have been but I can't remember what about, besides the fact that people often think I'm sluttier than I really am. My real friends know better though, and I find I don't care as much what strangers or casual acquaintances think of me any more.

Damnit Helms, you closed the other thread but since this is a contuation of it anywys Ill post it here.

Iv seen Angel be mean. its normaly in retaliation to Unfogetto and Whit e Lines. what she did to the other seybunny broad was pretty mild. she stated she thought she was putting us on.
whats so mean about that? she did not even do it very rudely until she told us we called her stupid and that was never true.
If you go read all her posts shes ful of shit, first 12 then 10 now shes a virgen and wants to knw how to masturbate then shes finger fucking her hand to this site and her snatch is dripping then suddenly shes asking abut using a pen on herself since shes not happy with her finger.
The damned girl was here to get a laugh and giggle to her self over toilet humor.
The only thing I think you can accuse Angel ove is speaking her mind and maybe on acting like a mod with out being one.
SDP said to reply for ignore it and let time tell if its a troll or a fae or not. I can agfree with that but when its 10 posts made that cose together and all of them are simple shit ?
Iv been her since October and I have no clue what I have for a post count 1300 ? something near that I think, this girl used more emotes in 10 posts then I have in all of mine. It was simple minded and fake, least in my opinion.

last, that in crowd you spoke of ?
I think its safe to say that everyone here has agreed with me at one time and wanted my balls another. its not right to always agree with each other on every point so apparently Im not in that crowd even though I defended Angel.
You an I have agreed before an alot of stuff and disagreed mor then once, I bet we disagree over this post as well.
what crowd does that put me into?
If we actually have in crowds and nice cliques then I think this site is in real trouble. there is a group of us that post more often then others but thats the closest I can see to a gang of posters trying to rule the boards.
I think everyone has really blown this incident way out of porpotion.
I got shit to do so Im outta here, I will however return later today, no run off drama!, just a see ya later I have a personal life a few hours a day :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

hey you know what I seem to remember this happening to me not far back. Funny how it comes back. So how does it feel? Pretty shitty right? That is what I thought.Let me also add it is nott judgement of where your heart is b/c we all know that you are caring. It is in the way that you try and express that into a helpful statement. I mean yes kids may be having sex at a young age, well getting on them over an online forums is not going to help. You really to put a thoughtful answer forward, so that you make them think of what their actions really are. That is how you can get someone to change, by making them think and not be mr. hardass 24/7 ramming home no sex before 17 or whatever your beliefs are....And that is the key to helping people. Leaving your oppionions aside and just helping them to find their own. Because everyone is not you.But this will blow over.

What I find shocking if not a little appalling is this statement: >I am going to form a clique of nice people, and we are going to take over.Who are these "nice people" that you speak of Helms? EVERYONE here is guilty of being "mean" at one time or another... but to form your own "clique" to take over is so over the top. I am sorry but I have noticed lately your attitude on the forum as well. I came with a question a few weeks back about my friends and maybe to you my problem wasn't important and your suggestion was to "Don't worry about". I was pretty upset over your attitude towards my situation, and I wasn’t the only one. A few members made comments to be about your lack of giving real advice. But since Pink and I had our little “battle” you have given me a weird vibe. Hell you even threaten to ban my IP address for LITERALLY no reason at all, but Pink got no reprimand though I was the one being polite and she was the one out of line. (And Pink that was no dig at you, just giving an example hun). So you have your favorites on these boards Helms and it shows.No one here is perfect and should never be judged as being "mean" so freely. Angel has given awesome advice to probably everyone here at one point or another. Not to mention she's damn good about pointing and calling out the trolls here on the site... which Helms you have done as well.So, form your clique and see how well this site does, especially if you. And your clique is going to start the immature name-calling. If you want this site to get back to its helpful nature you have to set an example as well.As Angel said I won’t be surprised if this post is deleted but I am also upset about this calling Angel out on something that wasn’t needed. Evaluate a situation before you send PM’s calling someone mean.

well if we are picking at people let me help out.I personally feel that this board is full of gutless people. I have talked to a few members and they agree. It is either way too damn soft or way too hard on people.Ntroducing, your "group" has a bad attitude towards people, and helms is nto always the best. But see where everyone gets all fucked up (sorry for the language) is that they obscure their help by letting their beliefs get in the way. You cannot do that. you must be understanding to everyone and give neutral advice. SO I suggest you all grow up and just help people and stop judging b/c you are all very good at it. I suggest you all quit your whining b/c you do this to new members and so now see how they feel. Jesus.....grow up people.If you flame me, you will have proved my point

...so, who likes pie? :grin:
Anyone?

Eddie is right. I have seen Helms and other mods rip apart someone they believe to be a troll or simply someone posting a 'stupid' question. And this is no dig at you Helms. You are definately an expert in certain areas and give great advice, but you have stepped over the line a few times. I think this is really unfair to Angel especially in the thread that Chance is talking about, Angel was not the only one to say something. In fact, she was probably the nicest out of the list of people talking shit.

Every one of us in this thread is guilty of saying something 'mean'. But you cannot even compare Angel to someone like Unforgetto or White_Lines. I am so disgusted with this place anymore.

And Walken, you have a point, but you are guilty of these things too. Don't throw stones.

Every thing you say is an opinion. opinions are based on your life experience and your beliefs. its impossible to talk to anyone wiht out letting your belife affect what you say.I can see no way to ever get away from that.and people always have bigger balls on a computer then in person, noone can reach thru a computer and touch them when they type something nasty, I doubt many people would do this in person. That type of shit is never going to go way Walken, its here to stay, I suggest you find a way to get over it, it sucks but its part of the electronic life and age we live in.I am assuming that its what you meant?gutless being the people who talk mad shit online but do not back it up in life ?or you mean the people that give partial truths based on thier belifes because its easier then giving an whole answer that coflicts wiht what they happen to think?or thta if someone else jumps on someone then they wil pile on so long as they are not the ony ones? flame this asshole here and go along with the group but not this guy because they are friends with the MODs ?thats calle peer pressure and we have been trying ot figure out how to deal with and eliminat that since it was first realized to exist.I understand what your saying but there is no easy answer to it, no way to make it stop and nothing you, I, or a MOD says will ever correct it.

I just don't get it guys!Everyone here has done something someone else doesn't like. Some do it ALL the time, and NO one likes it, but we all know who they are.One of my biggest things lately (ask Walken) is that "everyone comes from a different experience, therefore has a different perspective".Can't we all just realize that and get on with it?P.S. Every one here who has posted in this thread has helped me on this board..not always directly, but still has helped. Sometimes, it is just a well needed laugh, but helped just the same.

This isn't a flame but who are you to judge me?? I do not have a "group" here; I talked to just about everyone and for the most part like all the regulars here. I do my best to give the best advice I can and I think I separate my beliefs just fine.As for my "group" having a bad attitude.... they do?? Angel has given awesome advice to so many people here. Let's see whom else you're classing as immature and needing to grow up. Well Katie is just an awesome awesome person who I am glad to call a close friend now. OldFolk (Scotty) is probably the smartest most intellectual person I have met in a long time and is just an awesome person to talk to. Roc is always a great resource for good information and great advice. Amy is just a silly and fun person who has done a great job as a mod... gee Jon should I continue to list more people? Yeah guess we all need to grow up sarcasmAm I guilty of having fun on this board... yup damned skippy. But you cannot say I don’t give good advice where I can. Same with my “group” (So childish), they have ALL given awesome advice. I am not perfect or have I ever said I was nor am I saying Helms or anyone else are not good people, but instead I am saying I think they need to judge the situation before calling names and hurting peoples feelings.

well I suppose it a combination of them. I mean people do not flame on others unless they know someone will join in.

I mean people can give help with leaving a bul of their beliefs out. I mean it is an understanding factor that i think has been lost. I just seems the attitude of the boards over the years has gone down. I mean Afaid to asknow means that more people are afraid to b/c of the flaming. I mean I always expect better from us.

Anyway I am not devoting anymore energy to this post b/c at one time or another everyone has felt like this Angel. So I am sorr but it is nothing new, but something we have had to deal with eher on these boards. I mean you can stay and deal with it or take the easy way out and leave. But I do not want you to leave.

I do not want to be included in the regs....There is a level of miscommunication between what i am trying to say and the message i am saying. What i was trying to post is i am not sure...loss of words...just this is something very common here, lately.

come on guys, everyone has been mean on here at one time or another, Sometimes its really necesarry, other times not so much. No one is going to get along all the time so fighting about it now won't help.

(No one even replied as to whether or not they like pie. I feel so invisible)hobbles back to bell tower

I love pie :P Especially pumpkin pie

well in all honesty i am finding this thread funny. I mean angel did this exact thing to me not to long ago. So it is Karma of sorts, lol.