Really Weird

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Yes. Short history:When I was 4 I started masturbating, and was caught. I was disciplined for it. Then, I continued on in secrecy until about 14, when we had another talk about it, and I was told it was OK and that they just thought I was too young then, though they failed to tell me that then and it put a lot of stress on me. They told me it was OK, but put alot of emphasis on it being, more or less, something that they would rather I not do but know I have to so I might as well but shouldn't very often.

This is getting stranger and stranger. Maybe it is a coincidence, but I have found out that I have no refactory time. None. I can get hard again without trying within 5 minutes of ejaculating. I hope it's a coincidence, but maybe it means that somehow ejaculation and orgasm have mentally gotten unlinked inside somehow, and I'm reaching ejaculation but need to go longer to actually reach orgasm and tell my brain to start the refactory period... Maybe I'll test it soon. Just an alternate theory.

It's not unusual for refractory time to be only a few minutes in your teens, even with normal orgasms.

Hmm. Odd. In that case, does anyone think it could be the first theory? I mean, I can definitly tell that every time I think about possibly masturbating I tense up and my mind clouds with 'What if I'm caught?' 'What if I make a mess?' 'What will I clean up with?' and so on constantly.

Hey, I just had a thought about your box situation. Ever thought of getting a metal box? I mean like an old cookie tin or something....that way, there'd be no odor and you could use it over and over again without it falling apart. If there's not one lying around your house, you could probably find one at a garage or yard sale for the change in your pocket.Just a thought.

Those sort of anxieties could well be causing the problem, 3DMapper.

Well, that's certainly true, but as he's apparently not interested in rooting them out at the moment, I say let him go until with them until he gets bored with all the effort. I gotta tell ya, if jerking off were that much work for me, I'd probably never do it....

Hey, I most certainly am interested in rooting them out - how can I, though?Yeah, it's almost not worth the trouble... The only reason I do it with any frequency is because I'm supposed to for the epididymitus...

Well, I may be onto something. Last night I tried just laying down and relaxing completely. Then I tried focusing on the feelings, trying to make them stronger, and trying to make them felt through my entire body instead of just that one area. Then, when I finished, I felt more than I remember feeling except for one or two other times in my entire life. I think I might get it yet...

Yeah. You do need to relax. Just realize it's natural and normal and jiz is the result. I usually shoot onto my chest or abs and just rub it in, showering takes care of it.

Yeah, I agree, and thats a very good way of putting it, thanks! Very inspiring. I forgot to mention, I think, that I also made sure that I recognized the fact that I need to stop rushing it and just do it and when I finish, well, thats an added bonus, not the goal.Well, last night complicated things further. I never knew something so simple could be so complex. This time as I started to finish I did something thats hard to explain - I stopped thinking about anything whatsoever and just focused on myself, and I had even less feeling than normal but it came out really, really, REALLY hard and far. Strange, strange science this is... I'll figure it out...

Complicated? Dude, it doesn't sound to me like you're relaxing at all. How complicated could it be? Millions of men around the world jerk off every damn day. You jerk it, you shoot, you either wipe up, rub it in, eat it if you want, but, like, there's nothing to be concerned about.

Nothing to be concerned about? If I don't feel a thing normally when I finish, I think that's something to be concerned about... It makes me very jelous, hearing about how good it feels and how amazing it is, when for me it's like 'Oh, it's over. I hadn't noticed.'Yeah, I wish it weren't complicated, but it is... For me.Sorry if I sounded rude, I'm just getting frustrated. I grew up feeling this way and thinking to myself regularly 'This is that sex thing everyone raves about? It isn't that good, what are they talking about?!'

I didn't mean to sound rude, bro. I guess I don't understand what the problem is, even though I read that other thread too. You have no sensation when you jerk off? That seems like an entirely different issue than what you'd discussed before. As for what you said before, about not shooting much-- well that happens sometimes, some loads arent as big or as powerful as others that's all. If you have no feeling in your penis or somethin, then that's a medical issue and we need to call on the experts.

No, you didn't, I was just afraid I did.Well, it feels normal, very good most of the time or at least 'worth it', until I ejaculate, at which point, just before I ejaculate and throughout, I feel nothing pleasurable. It's so weird.Well, not shooting much happens sometimes, true, but this time I could feel something not right - I somehow actually stopped in the middle. It wasnt one of those things where you didnt have my=uch TO shoot, it was where you had as much as needed for a full ejaculation but it stopped in the middle because I panicked, which I didn't even know was possible. (BTW, it's happened 2 - 3 times since that post - odd.)Yeah, I guess it is...

Well, this is getting weirder. Now I'm feeling less and less during the buildup. I have always been a shooter, and always normally had about a tablespoon or so come out... Now it just oozes, and I get a teaspoon if I'm lucky. I think I'm going to get a doctor's appointment, this just doesn't seem right.

you probley had another post about this but why do you need a box why can you just throw them away i have a trash can in my room thats what i do

Well, just as an update to anyone who might be having the same problem, it is getting better. It certainly is not normal yet, but I've gotten a ton more comfortable about it, just letting it happen pretty much, and it's to the point where I feel something very good every single time. Not excellent, often, but very good. One time it was to the point where it made my physically spasm, which is like nothing I had ever felt before. I think it's curable, and I think relaxing and just letting it happen is the answer. I have found socks to be the perfect 'hiding place' for it, and have gotten very comfortable with that as well. 6 months ago I would never have even thought of doing that - what if someone sees it in the washing machine, or what if it dosent come out, or what if it dosent wash out right in the washer, or what if- and I would think these things far too much, and now I just don't worry about it, because it just isn't a big deal. It used to be, but I realized that that is just silly and it needs to stop, and it is stopping very slowly and as a result I seem to be curing it through that. Needless to say it's very exciting to finally be able to feel something I never could feel.

That's very good to hear!

WOW! I think I figured it out... It seemed to be a combination of a few things, including being afraid of making a mess (now solved almost completely), and - you are not going to believe this one - blocking off the feelings subconciously because they were too intense.I don't know how I didn't notice, but I made an effort to feel everything I could, as well as changing technique to a normal one (was doing some weird one that seemed to feel better but really did not), not care about making a mess, and two times in a row now it's felt... Amazing.Is this what it feels like? I'm going to try to describe it and see if it is - I always thought I knew what it felt like (not much of anything), but now I feel something completely different.It feels a little like losing control, then... Like you would feel if you were to jump out of an airplane skydiving. A rush, losing control, and the feelings were so intense I almost felt like I was going to explode and had to block off some of it it was so strong. (I have gotten to the point where I block off intense emotions automatically as it turns out - I had a very rough past emotionally, and as such I just naturally learned technique for dealing with pain, to the point where I did not even feel it anymore - perhaps that's what I did with this because when I felt it it was so intense my mind mistook it for pain?)I have no clue why it just started happening, but I think I found the right combination of mindset (dont worry about anything, focus on only yourself and feelings and not whats going on around you), and technique to just start having them. I sometimes would get one time that felt good, then try again and nothing, but it has never been like this, always something totally different, and never twice in a row.(By the way, I did see the doctor about it and he said that he did not know, perhaps I was just not old enough yet for the hormones to be correct for me to feel it, perhaps he was right and they just changed these last few days... Either way, I'm happier than heck!)