Seedless grapes....

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ok, if the grapes r seedless does that its just a product of selective breeding or r they Gm grapes?....yummy etha way...especially as seed creep me out. but i really wanna no

Seedless grapes were created long before genetic engineering. I'm not sure how you make something seedless by selective breeding, since once they are seedless no more breeding is possible - perhaps it's a chance mutation. There are lots of other seedless fruit around, again all before genetic engineering was developed. Garlic is a plant for which, I understand, no seeded variety now exists; and seeded bananas are extremely rare.

seedless grapes still have seeds, theyre just tiny and undeveloped....and maybe since if u cant breed with seeds theyed just take cuttings off one plant maybe? hmm, i will ponder this. one of the great mysteries of life

i dont see that it would b a mutation cuz if it was it wouldnt b suited to any enviroment and would have dies out cuz it couldnt reproduce....maybe its a hybreid?

I have never thought about this. lol. What about seedless watermelon?

They have seedless watermelons. I think what they do is take seedless branches and graft them onto regular bushes/trees/vines. I know they do something like that with olives, for example.

They have seedless watermelons.I know that, silly.

as I like to point out, gm had been around for a very long time. Selective breeding is, infact genetic manipulation. It's only recently thet the prectise has moved under the microscope.Seedless grapes, watermellons, oranges, bananas, etc are a result of selective breading. There is actually talk of the immenent extiction of the banana tree becasue it's been bred to be seedless for so long and unlike the other fruits, the seeded variety has little market appeal. It would apear that we slipped on appeal.

_It would apear that we slipped on appeal. _

Ba rum bum! Pshhh

Vines grown from seeds usually differ markedly from each other and from parent vines. Seeds are not used to propagation because the seedlings are usually of lesser quality than the parent vine in regard to vigor, productivity, quality of fruit, and wine produced form the fruit. However, seeds are valuable in breeding work and development of new varieties. In the past 200 years man has attempted to produce new grapes that better suit his needs. About 25 million acres (10,121,000 hectares) of grapes are grown worldwide. There are around 8,000 varieties of grapes in the world that have been named and described. Grapes are divided into five main classes, depending on their purpose: table, wine, raisin, juice, and canning. Wild and cultivated grapevines belong to the family Vitaceae which includes living and two fossil genera and more than a thousand species. Grapevines are perennials grown from rooted hardwood of softwood cuttings or from grafts of the scion cultivar on a rootstock. In propagation by cuttings, a portion of the cane is cut from the parent plant, and this plant part is then placed under favorable environmental conditions and included to form roots and shoots, which results in the production of a new plant that is usually identical to the parent plant. There are several methods to field budding, or graft fruiting varieties onto rootstocks, and the type used usually depends on the size of the stock. Humans planted V. vinefera as a crop as far back as 5000 B.C. In the Near East and southern Europe, superior types were selected form wild vines and gradually domesticated.http://www.siu.edu/~ebl/leaflets/grapes.htm

I opened this post thinking it was somebody stressing about firing blanks and was wondering why it wasnt on the sexuality forum, ha ha ha. I find that really funny, maybe I just have a dirty mind?! lol

LOL, someone has a one track mind.

LOL...good analogy (seedless grape-shot)...I'll remember that one. :grin:

Mutations don't have to be all good for the organism. In fact, most are bad.Most fruit trees are commercially propagated asexually through cuttings, even when they have seeds. Only in this way can they maintain reliable cultivars.

cheers folks, i feel so much more educated now. teeheeisnt biology fun?

Grapes with seeds are good. When I was younger there was this little store across the street from our Church's old building and we always used to buy like bags full of them lol and (disgusting) spit them at each other like bebe guns. Ant it hurt like crazy especially when the guys did it lol.