Guys Kissing

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Something that always bothers me is the double standard that exists in society. This could potential start some trouble, but I have faith that the ata members will keep this discussion away from that.So why is it that in American society, it is generally accepted for a girl to kiss another girl. Yes, some people are offended by it, and many won't do it (which is fine), but I think it's safe to say it's not something shocking to hear. In fact, a lot of guys like it, just picture the stereotypical frat guy cheering on two sorority girls, or how it's thought that every guy dreams of being with 2 woman at the same time (obviously not true).Yet the inverse gets the opposite reaction. We live in an unfortunately very homophobic society. Obviously the makeup of people on these forums doesn't match that, because pretty much everyone here is accepting of others, but if you step back and look at society's collective views, it's kinda disturbing. For example there are some that view guys kissing other guys as hot, and others that don't, but I feel like for some reason there is no middle ground. No indifference on the issue of homosexual/bisexual men, like there exists for homosexual/bisexual woman. If a woman is at a party and hooks up with another woman, most people are fine with it, and her friends don't attack her for it. But if a guy were to go to a party (figuring a predominantly straight makeup, and the men involved are not openly gay) and hook up, they'll permanently be labeled as gay by many people involved (especially guys), and their friends may make fun of them, no longer associate with them, etc.I have no personal experience with this, but I'm just commenting on what I've observed. I'd love to hear what some of you think about this.

every guy dreams of being with 2 woman at the same time (obviously not true). Are you sure? At least for straight males?Well 2 women kissing is hot.. 2 guys is not from a straight guys perspective.

Originally Posted By: sdp Well 2 women kissing is hot.. 2 guys is not from a straight guys perspective. And that's exactly the answer.But even for lesbians, they have their issues in society. Just the other month a lesbian couple was watching a baseball game in Seattle and they kissed and got thrown out of the ballpark. Mind you there were not making out, sucking each other’s tongues down their throats; it was a simple peck. What I found weird was that it happened in Seattle; Seattle is known to be rather gay friendly.But as a gay man it is very frustrating that if I want to give my boyfriend even a peck on the cheek I will get stares if not even negative comments. Years back I even had a situation where I had a guy threaten to beat me up simply because I feed my boyfriend at the time a bite of my dessert while out to dinner. What was I hurting? Not a damned thing but people let their ignorance get in the way.Now I am not one for much PDA, I think making out in public is pretty much uncalled for. But if I want to hold my boyfriends hand while walking down the street or feel the need to give him an affection little peck on the cheek or even the lips I should be allowed. Because seriously, who is that hurting? Absolutely no one, but people are so stuck on themselves they cannot think outside their own ignorance to accept other people for who they are, not what sexuality they are. Anyways I’ll stop ranting now. Society is getting better, but it’ll be quite a long time before homosexuals can be free to be who they are in society without the negatives.

Originally Posted By: gooooooogle This could potential start some trouble, but I have faith that the ata members will keep this discussion away from that.Someone hasn't been paying attention!

I think guys kissing is HOT! I never get to see it in person though. :frowning:

As a girl, it really sucks to be at a bar or something and have to hide the fact you are there with your girlfriend. I remember my ex girlfrind and I would go out and act like friends because if we would even give each other a peck on the lips, guys would swarm around us and totally ruin the night. Do you know how hard it is to be tipsy and try to keep your hands to yourself with a sexy red head sitting next to you? :grin:

Originally Posted By: DxLISHxISx_43I think guys kissing is HOT! I never get to see it in person though. As a girl, it really sucks to be at a bar or something and have to hide the fact you are there with your girlfriend. I remember my ex girlfrind and I would go out and act like friends because if we would even give each other a peck on the lips, guys would swarm around us and totally ruin the night. Do you know how hard it is to be tipsy and try to keep your hands to yourself with a sexy red head sitting next to you? Yes.

I should say everybody have their own opinions and their way of thinking,why i do not know.I for one is pro-choice what women and men do with their bodies are their business,it don`t bother me,they are living their life.

I'm of the same opinion as lish on this one.. I think it's hot!! I don't get why there is such an issue in society with these things. I don't see the need for people (gay, straight, whatever..) to shove their tongues down eachothers throats in broad daylight in public, but on the night, if you're out or whatever.. why the hell is there such a problem?! It's pretty much expected that couples will do it... bloody double standards.Here's an interesting question... For homosexual people, does it bother you to see straight people kissing???

Originally Posted By: AmzHere's an interesting question... For homosexual people, does it bother you to see straight people kissing??? Doesn't bother me at all. Again my only issue is when people feel they need to have their tongues down each others throats. There a place for that, and it's not in public or in the middle of a restaurant like Rad's experience. But a simply little peck on the lips or cheek I think it very sweet and romantic.

I'm one of those, who thinks nothing of either. Holding hands, a hug, or a peck, no big deal. Making out in public...ewww!

But, really I don't know if it is because I am such a voyeur lol.
If I wanna watch, it's cause I wanna play, and I'll just go get a video...:)

LOl speaking of watching that reminds me of an incident that happened when Adam and I were on Vacation a couple months ago in SoBe, FL. We were out in the ocean swimming when we looked over and this girl had her BF/husband straddled around the waste with her legs. Well at first I didn't think anything of it until we got a little closer and we realized they were having sex! Well being the voyeur I am I had to watch LoL. Adam kept telling me to stop looking but like I told him if they are going to do it right there in the open with people all around them than damn it I am going to watch! LoLBut that raises a question, wouldn’t salt water really irritate the vagina?? They were at it for a LONG time; I would think there would be a point it would burn??

"...like I told him if they are going to do it right there in the open with people all around them than damn it I am going to watch!"My sentiment, exactly. I don't care what people do but if their going to put on show they better not have a problem with me watching it. They just better be prepared to be perved on.As for the vagina question, my wife and I did the exact same thing, in Florida, in the water, hopefully a little more discretely (who the fuck am I kidding I didn't care if people watched, took pictures or joined in) and she didn't have any problems.Like sex in any other kind of water the lube doesn't last to long and there might be some irritation from that.

Oh pepsi and eddie, you both make me laugh. I'd have watched too, being the perv that I am!!!
I can't say I've ever had sex in salt water.. guess it would dry it up and hurt little...?!

Originally Posted By: Amz

I can't say I've ever had sex in salt water.. guess it would dry it up and hurt little...?!

That was kind of my thoughts :smile:

If you guys went to my high school, you'de be used to seeing people stick their tounges all down each others throats...giving handjobs and blow jobs....even fucking just like, right in the open. Lmfao j/k....sorta.

But I think guys kissing is romantic but thats cuz I'm bi. And I don't mind seeing straight people kiss, by two best freinds are together and they do it all the time. I'm not really scared to kiss a guy in public, I held hands with a guy in a church with like tonnnnns of people (it was like this thing at a church where basically everyone at my school shows up, its like this big band/skating event). So im not a wuss. No one said anything. But we also had a lesbo couple walking around to so I doubt it seemed odd.

It sounds like things have actually been going pretty well for you lately, Someone young. It was not long ago you were worried how to let someone know you are bi, and here you are holding hands.

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I don't like couples making out in public, it's rather anoying and innapropriate in my opinion.But, holding hands, a peck on the cheak or lips etc is really cute, weather it's between a man and a woman, two women or two men.It's kinda shitty if gay guys feel that they can't express their love for their partner in such a sweet beautiful way because there are other people around who may give them shit for it. There's nothing wrong with being in love or expressing that love appropriatly in public.

Most of the time we can't! Especially becasue of people who think public displays of affection between two people of the same sex is gross and wrong.. so they shoot 'em.

Ah yes, America, the land of the (not so) free!People should be able to express whatever they wanna!! I hold hands with my girlfriend, why can't a gay guy hold hands with another guy? I mean, c'mon... we're supposed to be in the age of understanding here!!!I know things are more open then they used to be, but I'd like to think that if I were gay, then I would still be able to hold hands with the person I love, because I find it somewhat unthinkable that I wouldn't be able to hold my girlfriends hand in public... I'm quite the romantic really, and holding hands is just one of those little things that I can do that I know is supportive and kind, and I don't see a problem with anyone else doing that, male male, female female, or anyone anywhere in between for that matter!!The only thing i don't really like, is unwanted physical contact... I like my little personal bubble, and what annoys me, is when people get inside that little safety zone if they're not welcome, like there's this guy at work who touches me on the arm when he wants to talk to me... I've told him about it so many times, and it just winds me up chronically!!! But that's nothing to do with men touching, that's just about giving me my space, because, unless it's my gf... I'm not really a touchy kinda person :$Anyway, my little rant over, I suppose I should get ready and go to work!!