Three Things About Islam

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Three surprising things you probably don't know about Islam.

I can sum this up for you:1. Where they get those white dress looking things they wear.2. How to deal with the chaffing that comes from riding camels in the hot desert.3. The sexual appeal of burkas.

Grr, another YouTube video for something that could read in text much more quickly. I can't comment on the author's exegesis of the Quran, as I don't know enough. There is certainly much in Muslim theology I dislike.On the second point, Sharia law in Britain holds only as a form of arbitration under Britain's 'alternative disputes resolution' laws. That is, both sides need to agree to it beforehand for its decisions to be legally enforceable. Any other mutually agreed tribunal has the same status.Generally, in those countries that have true Sharia law, Sharia law and courts only apply to Muslims, though it is true that they apply the principle of 'once a Muslim, always a Muslim', and in a few nations like Saudi Arabia there is little distinction between civil and Sharia law.

1. You could also easily argue that the bible was written literally, and if taken literally the bible is just as ridiculous as the Qu'ran.All holy books are ridiculous. Based on no truth, all speculation and made up stories.2. Thor is a perfect example of a christian who has made it their duty to push their religion and their religion's views on people. Offering their way, or hell. This is no different than shari'a law. Free will is an illusion made by christians, at the end of the day you follow christian law or you go to hell, that's what thor would like you to believe. If evangelists ran the countries of the world we would follow their law just like if the extremist muslims ran the countries of the world we would follow theirs.Solution: Seperation of church/religion and state. Just like the founding fathers stated.3. Muslims are allowed to decieve non-muslims if it helps islam. Remind you of anything? Creationists. They try and decieve others all the time to try and keep christianity current.At the end of the day religions operate almost the same way.

Originally Posted By: TechnicalAll holy books are ridiculous. Based on no truth, all speculation and made up stories.Because you say so?

Quote: Grr, another YouTube video for something that could read in text much more quickly.I agree. I just dont watch the videos anymore

This isn't about Christianity vs Islam, or any other religion. It's a warning about what is coming.

Stephie...understand this. Under Sharia law, a husband is within his rights to beat his wife without even giving her a reason. If a wife in such a case is forced by social and even family pressures to accept Sharia ruling (as a good Muslim should), nothing happens to her husband. Such cases have already ocurred in England. How would you like this happening down the street from you...perhaps even to somebody you know? Maybe even a friend or a family member. The message here is that these things must be stopped before they start.

Yes I agree. No woman should ever have to endure that. Im all about equal rights.

To clarify a point here, in Britain it is not true that if both parties agree to Sharia law the husband can legally beat the wife. British criminal law still applies and cannot be agreed away. The difficulty is a practical one, that if the wife doesn't make a complaint or cooperate with authorities it is very hard to prosecute successfully. The same is of course true in other cultural situations, as when people who are bullied keep their mouth shut about it.

I'm getting a little scared now, I'm agreeing with you more and more these days. I found this video a few weeks ago and cannot argue with its content. The only reason I'm posting in this thread is to defend you from a particular attack.The video that you posted is by a group that are simply sharing information on Islam. At no point are they saying that Christianity is perfect or make any comparison to Christianity at all (apart from a factual explanation of the nature of contradictions in the Bible and the Qur'an). I think that its unfair that the conclusion was jumped to that you're using this video to say "... therefore Christianity is right."I do mostly agree with Ineligible (not about the video style, I actually like it and understand the difficulty in achieving that style effectively). Sharia Law in Britain can only apply when both parties agree, but the problem is that a lot are pressured into accepting it by their community. Men do get away with beating their wives through non-compliance from the wife because the decision came from the arbitrator who is most commonly the local religious leader. To defy his decisions would be equal to outcasting yourself from the community. They legally cannot make you leave but there are many reported cases of verbal and physical abuse from an entire community against people who defied the ruling of the Imam. So for women especially (who can be kicked out of their own homes) the punishment for disobeying the Imam can be a lot worse than for whatever "crime" she is accused of.

Originally Posted By: damien Originally Posted By: TechnicalAll holy books are ridiculous. Based on no truth, all speculation and made up stories.Because you say so? Because they have no empirical evidence backing up their claims/stories.Thor:Also if this is not about Christianity vs Islam then why would he mention other religions in the video. Also you are arguing that one religion should be feared more than others.Also by stating that this is what is to come, you are purely speculating. I still don't see the difference between if muslim extremists and christian extremists ruled the world/our countries, they are both bad circumstances. Also christian extremists are much closer to taking over America politically than Islam extremists are. Evangelists make up about 25% of the population. That's much scarier if you ask me.

Just to clarify about the video (necessary because I originally wrote in too much haste), I don't dislike that typographical video style itself, it's just the fact that it is a video and not text. If I'm reading text most of the time I will be reading it a lot faster than it will be said in a video. However, if something needs more thought, when reading I can automatically slow down as much as I need; and I can go back and re-read bits whenever I wish. A video has only one speed, often too slow, but at some points too fast. (Yes, you can repeat bits, but still only at the one speed.) I get especially irritated when there is nothing that really needs a video to display it.I believe studies have shown that video is a particularly ineffective method of teaching. But sorry to distract from the point of the thread.

Originally Posted By: TechnicalBecause they have no empirical evidence backing up their claims/stories. That statement is way too broad to even be dealt with. If you're saying that not all stories in all "holy books" can be supported by empirical evidence, then we would agree.If you're saying that no stories in any of the "holy books" can be supported by empirical evidence, you would be dead wrong.But the largest error you are making is supposing that empirical evidence is the only criteria for truth.

Originally Posted By: IneligibleJust to clarify about the video (necessary because I originally wrote in too much haste), I don't dislike that typographical video style itself, it's just the fact that it is a video and not text. If I'm reading text most of the time I will be reading it a lot faster than it will be said in a video. However, if something needs more thought, when reading I can automatically slow down as much as I need; and I can go back and re-read bits whenever I wish. A video has only one speed, often too slow, but at some points too fast. (Yes, you can repeat bits, but still only at the one speed.) I get especially irritated when there is nothing that really needs a video to display it.Well I'm a big audio-book person, so I really like these types of videos. But I completely get your point. Originally Posted By: IneligibleI believe studies have shown that video is a particularly ineffective method of teaching. But sorry to distract from the point of the thread. Well maybe its a generation thing, or maybe I'm just odd, but I learn far better from video than other methods. It might also simply be the field of study that I'm usually in, mainly visual based things such as video and software related things.

Originally Posted By: damien

But the largest error you are making is supposing that empirical evidence is the only criteria for truth.

Without getting too heavy into this stuff (out of courtesy to the board, I'm trying to cut down on the militant atheism :grin:), what other criteria are there for truth in terms of the Bible?

Originally Posted By: bobalicious Originally Posted By: damienBut the largest error you are making is supposing that empirical evidence is the only criteria for truth. Without getting too heavy into this stuff (out of courtesy to the board, I'm trying to cut down on the militant atheism ), what other criteria are there for truth in terms of the Bible? Without getting too heavy into this stuff (out of courtesy to you and the board, and just a lack of desire to get into it ) I would say historical evidence and revelation, for starters.

Revelation?

You two have become such weenies.

Originally Posted By: bobaliciousRevelation? revelation: something revealed or disclosed, esp. a striking disclosure, as of something not before realized.

Originally Posted By: OldFolksYou two have become such weenies. Suck it, weenie boy! roflmao