Why or why shouldn't I take medicine for my depression/anxiety/borderline personality disorder? Because I don't know.Part of me wants to take it. Maybe it will vastly improve my life.Part of me says that I am weak and I should just fight through it. I don't fucking know. I am so angry right now because I am so indecisive. I'm convinced not to take it, but then there's that itch in the back of my mind that tells me to.Someone please help me before I go insane.
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Medicine? Should I take it?
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I suffered from bad depression when my daughter was born blind and my marriage broke because of it......i know for a fact i wouldn't' be the person i am today if i hadn't taken the medication it helped me stand back from everything and deal with it instead of being enveloped in it with no way out..... i was told that severe depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain and there is no way of 'beating it' cos your body can't make enough good stuff to combat it.......but medication isn't the be all and end all, exercise daily improves the mood, making a list of things that are wrong in your life and working through them one by one helps you feel positive about things, councilling if needed etc etc.its a shame there is such a bad press on medication for depression etc as it makes those who need it feel like they are for want of a better word, a mental case, cos they need it, and for me personally that wasnt' the case, it helped.its a very personal choice on whether to take medication or not and i hope that you come to a conclusion about whats best for you soon hon, its not easy.
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Take the shit. Without my meds I'm impossible to be around. The shit helps.
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You are being a fucktard.your head is fucked in how you look at it.If you had a heart condition, would you feel you could fight through it or would you take the meds that keep you alive and functioning?If you were diabetic, would you skip your shots and blood tests and fight through it?If your arm was broken would you walk it off or seek help to have it set and a cast put on to keep it straight while it healed?People get a fucking attitude in their heads about meds for depression, gotta go time to take the fucking crazy pills!They judge others because they take them, but would never say anything negative about a cancer patient taking meds and chemo.People, over all are fucktards.Piss on fucktard opinions, do what is smart and makes sense to do.Take the fucking meds! That is why they were prescribed. There is no shame in it, anyone that thinks there is, is an uneducated ass.The one thing I will say is that they may not help or they make shit worse.If that is the case, then those particular meds do not work for you, you need to report progress, side effects, lack of progress, all of it to your doctor so that they can change the dose or change the type of meds. DO NOT simply say these do not work and stop taking them. Not all Meds work for all people, its a game of hit and miss and sometimes it takes a few tries and a few adjustments to work out what works best for a individual.
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Further, you've gotta give the shit about six weeks to start to take effect. Also, don't be your own judge about whether they're helping you or not, let those that have to deal with you judge whether your better or not.
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Originally Posted By: GrvtykllrYou are being a fucktard.your head is fucked in how you look at it.If you had a heart condition, would you feel you could fight through it or would you take the meds that keep you alive and functioning?If you were diabetic, would you skip your shots and blood tests and fight through it?If your arm was broken would you walk it off or seek help to have it set and a cast put on to keep it straight while it healed?People get a fucking attitude in their heads about meds for depression, gotta go time to take the fucking crazy pills!They judge others because they take them, but would never say anything negative about a cancer patient taking meds and chemo.People, over all are fucktards.Piss on fucktard opinions, do what is smart and makes sense to do.Take the fucking meds! That is why they were prescribed. There is no shame in it, anyone that thinks there is, is an uneducated ass.The one thing I will say is that they may not help or they make shit worse.If that is the case, then those particular meds do not work for you, you need to report progress, side effects, lack of progress, all of it to your doctor so that they can change the dose or change the type of meds. DO NOT simply say these do not work and stop taking them. Not all Meds work for all people, its a game of hit and miss and sometimes it takes a few tries and a few adjustments to work out what works best for a individual. I might not neccessarily be a "fucktard"I might have just known that depression was something that you couldn't fight off. I didn't know that you couldn't fix your own depression. So please don't call me a fucktard. Just call me ignorant as far as depression goes.
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ignorance fits my definition of a fucktard.Besides its how I talk. I shall continue to call anyone who chooses to not educate themselves on a subject they speak on and remain ignorant, a fucktard.In this case it wasnt meant to slam you or hurt your feel bads, only to grab your attention and show you that its fucking retarded to think there is something wrong with taking medications to help restore a medical condition in your head.people who laugh about some poor bastard taking crazy pills would never think to shit on some guy with a physical ailment taking medication for that.Those people are ignorant fucktard assholes that need an education.
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Originally Posted By: Grvtykllrignorance fits my definition of a fucktard.Besides its how I talk. I shall continue to call anyone who chooses to not educate themselves on a subject they speak on and remain ignorant, a fucktard.In this case it wasnt meant to slam you or hurt your feel bads, only to grab your attention and show you that its fucking retarded to think there is something wrong with taking medications to help restore a medical condition in your head.people who laugh about some poor bastard taking crazy pills would never think to shit on some guy with a physical ailment taking medication for that.Those people are ignorant fucktard assholes that need an education. I am educated. I just don't educate myself on every aspect of my life. I'm not perfect. I make mistakes. I don't judge others for taking medicine or anything else. Don't misunderstand me. I was simply under the idea that depression was something you could fight. I apologize for my inconvenience.
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Mild depression can be fought with things like rational-emotive therapy, though not always very successfully. Severe depression needs stronger treatment.
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I am very interested in this rational-emotive therapy. I just looked up some information about it. It sounds like it would be right up my alley. I really like the "ABCs" approach to it:
- A. Something happens.
- B. You have a belief about the situation.
- C. You have an emotional reaction to the belief.
This is me. I have my beliefs and when something happens I do see them through the filter of my belief system. I guess that's why I get really depressed sometimes. If I even see someone being really selfish or acting like a child, it really upsets me. I can just see it and it will upset me. Just like Grvtykillr or whatever on here. I'm just using him as an example. It really upsets me that he couldn't have been more helpful instead of punishing me for my mistakes and overreacting to my post. You could have just said: Actually, Depression may not be something you can change by yourself. It is a chemical imbalance in your brain that needs to be fixed, usually with medicine. And I understand that I can't look to far into incidents like these, but everyday instances like these are hard to handle for me. It makes me feel so out of place. Especially because I am 19, and people my age really don't think about the consequences of their actions before they do them. Idk. Maybe it is just all me. I'm probably just not handling as best as I can handle it.
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Your inconvenience, was only to yourself.When I said educated, I did not mean schooling or college, I meant finding out about any given subject, especially one that effects you.Yo were seeking education when you posted on this site asking for aid in making choices.Now on depression being something you can fight?It is.Part of that fight is the meds.First you have to understand if your depressed for a reason, its fine, in fact its healthy.If a loved one dies, you should be depressed, you get dumped, depressed. There are thousands of real reasons to be depressed.When it crosses over to a chemical imbalance causing the depression instead of an event, then you need help, there is no fighting that or letting time heal wounds.If you have that imbalance and a event happens that worsens it....There are many people who go off on crazy pills, the point i was trying to illustrate with that was to pay them no heed! Do not let someone elses opinion of you dissuade you from seeking help.
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Your beliefs on myself are fucked up.Go read all the few thousand posts Iv left on this site.If you had a better or maybe just a longer interaction with me, youd see I was not picking on you, I was not punishing you.I was simply giving ideas and ideals and beliefs from my perspective to aid you in understanding why to come to a specific choice on this particular subject. The choice that I believe is correct. Anyone offering advice will attempt to coerce you to come to their view point. I just do not sugar coat it. I was not attacking you, but rather attacking those that would see you taking the meds you need as a sign of weakness.The language, the words, the descriptive way I write?That is how I talk, the subject does not matter.Now its not how I would address a class of first graders, but we are not talking about first grade subjects on this forum.Here I speak or rather write, as I do in real life, with adults. I do not figure that it does anyone any good to be spoken down to and treated like a kid.The words I have written here are exactly how I would say it to any of my friends, even my children (barring the 5 year old) or family outside of the immediate relations.I do not tone myself down of filter what I have to say for the sake of being polite.If you view what Iv written as me trying to punish you, your just way fucking off. Punishment is for people that did something wrong, at this point you were seeking help in making a decision, there is nothing wrong with that. This is simply the way I talk.I had a similar discussion last night with my mother over politics. The same language, the same rhythm, different examples for a different subject, but all in all still similar. It is simply how I talk to EVERYONE. If you choose to take offense where no malice was intended towards you, well than, I suppose thats just too fucking bad for you.
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Okay, I understand now. You just give a very strong impression that you are upset with me or something. But apparently you are not, which is awesome =).I don't understand why you are going off about this whole I'm-not-taking-pills-because-I-think-people-will-think-i'm-crazy thing. I never said that was the reason I was trying to steer clear of medicine. I just have some bad experiences with meds. They haven't worked on me before. But if it something that absolutely can only be fixed by medicine, then I understand that I would have to try it again. I've been on antidepressants and they didn't help at all.
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If I was mad at you...You would know it.The reason I went off in that direction is because Iv been hanging out at this site off and on, for, holy fuck, a long time.4 years now? jesus christ has it been that long? does not matter, at any rate I see this shit all the time here, you are not the first to ask a question along these lines, and nearly every time it gets asked, the crazy pill syndrome breaks out. People worried other people will think less of them for taking them, people talking shit about people who take them, people who think someone is a pussy because they do not just fight it off.When you see it time and time again, it sorta becomes the first response to the question you posed.Im 37, 38 in a couple months, Iv seen this shit so many times. Iv been in more trouble than anyone I know, Iv gotten out of more than anyone I know, for these 38 years, Iv lived a hell of a life with more experiences that most people twice my age. based on those experiences, it normally leads back to the shit we discussed on this thread. Weakness. Everyone worries about appearing weak. The world is full of fucking predators, noone wants to be the prey. They let that confuse them and make rash judgments with no basis in fact or thought. Thats why I went off on that route, past experience has taught me that thats where this heads most times its brought up.
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Originally Posted By: GrvtykllrIf I was mad at you...You would know it.The reason I went off in that direction is because Iv been hanging out at this site off and on, for, holy fuck, a long time.4 years now? jesus christ has it been that long? does not matter, at any rate I see this shit all the time here, you are not the first to ask a question along these lines, and nearly every time it gets asked, the crazy pill syndrome breaks out. People worried other people will think less of them for taking them, people talking shit about people who take them, people who think someone is a pussy because they do not just fight it off.When you see it time and time again, it sorta becomes the first response to the question you posed.Im 37, 38 in a couple months, Iv seen this shit so many times. Iv been in more trouble than anyone I know, Iv gotten out of more than anyone I know, for these 38 years, Iv lived a hell of a life with more experiences that most people twice my age. based on those experiences, it normally leads back to the shit we discussed on this thread. Weakness. Everyone worries about appearing weak. The world is full of fucking predators, noone wants to be the prey. They let that confuse them and make rash judgments with no basis in fact or thought. Thats why I went off on that route, past experience has taught me that thats where this heads most times its brought up. Okay, I gotcha. I can easily see how people wouldn't want to take medication because of the false belief that people would think they are crazy for taking pills. Your concern is very real in that respect, Grvtykillr. Personally, though, I think that you would be a lot more helpful to others who are uninformed about depression, such as myself, by informing them about depression in a civil manner and maybe working with the one who is seeking advice/help. I am not trying to appear narcissistic here. I am just saying that most people besides myself wouldn't understand your frustration, therefore, people would tend to get the wrong idea from your words. So maybe you could be more of a service to the community by "circum-navigating" around people's ignorance, because to the average joe, you come off as very aggressive and angry, and people tend to flee from those attitudes and sometimes even start more problems because of these attitudes.Peace & Love, Droppydees =)