Beware smokers!!!!

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Ok so basically I hate it when people smoke. I have so alergy or some thing and I caugh when I smell no mater how small it is. Well tonight it was at DQ (I drank water as ussual) and I just wanted to go over to the table and pour water on there cigs. Then run. It bothers not only because when I smell it I feel like I might die but also because little fact I found out is that second hand smoke is worse for you than first hand!! I would like to it illegal in public soon!!!!

I agree. I don't know if it's possible to be allergic to cigarette smoke but I always have a serious reaction when I inhale cig smoke. Ad if the coughing uncontrollably isn't bad enough my throat becomes red and swollen along with my sinuses. It's horrible. I remember when my stepdad used to smoke outside the house and it used to come through the window. And I would have the craziest fits like I'm gonna hack up a long.The coughs are so painful.

I know!!!!!!!¡

(In general)I do believe it's possible to be allergic to cigarette smoke.Upon further examination, it'd be possible to be allergic to certain ingredients, due to the massive amounts of crap in cigs. And it's even .gov website!

I believe in being respectful of folks who don't want to breath smoke but I think most of this mania about it is ludicrous.

Quote: I would like to it illegal in public soon!!!!IN many states this is true. Like here in Ohio it's illegal to smoke in public places. It's catching on quick and I'd wager that in a few years all states will have this law.I will say I enjoy going to the bars/clubs more now that I don't leave the building smelling like an ashtray!

If Im smoking where its legal to smoke, and someone has a problem with it, and asks me if I would put it out, Im normally pretty good about doing so.If someone demands I do, I tell them to shut their mouth or Ill fuck it.If they dump a drink on my smoke, I will knock the dog fuck out of them, they can run, I will catch them.I am tired of all the bullshit about smoking.no smoking outside, in the park, its only legal to smoke in your home, alone, under the blanket with all the lights off.I am sick of the god damned lectures by nonsmokers, every smoke takes 11 minutes off your life! did you know that? GOOD! that much less time I will have to put up with pussy ass mother fuckers telling me what I already know! The gall of you mother fuckers is unnerving.Each year, the parade for the fourth of july passes by my moms house.Im sitting, in her front fucking yard, watching the parade with my son and wife, and these cocksuckers who walk up and sit on the sidewalk to watch have the balls to tell me, 30 feet away, on the deck, on private fucking property I need to put that out its bothering them?I took my chair off the deck, sat it on the edge of the lawn, and chain smoked a whole fucking pack, blowing it at the back of their heads daring them to do something about it.Whiny fucking maggots. You mother fuckers took the planes, took the restaurants, took the fucking bars and clubs and city parks, now you mother fuckers want to take away every fucking space left?Fuck you.I refuse to give one more fucking place up.Go ahead, challenge me, see whos ass is beat, pass your fucking laws, I am through following them, I refuse to give one more fucking thing up.crybaby mother fuckers.

Yeah I enjoy not having to smell smoke almost everywhere I go.

So if the offensiveness is the smell does that mean we can legislate bath times and scrub methods?

if ti comes down to smell, I want a law prohibiting teen agers from having that axe shit!smother themselves in it and walk around a store! they fucking reek, it has been banned in my house.

How about fines for anybody that doesn't know the proper amount of cologne or perfume to wear. Talk about something that can give you one hell of a headache quick just walk in a room where someone has on to much smell good shit. It make me feel bad for middle school teachers. Maybe they should get hazard pay.

Well its more than the smell for me.. its also the health factors as well. Just the not smelling like smoke is a nice addition.Though regulating bathtimes might not be a bad idea either. We get some patients that come here that are just rank!! We had one yesterday that smelled like he rolled around in a liter box before coming in. Ugh!

Personally I think most of the anti-smoking zealots are just exhibiting the all to human inclination to find and have someone or something to hate. We seem to have a deep seated need for an enemy and for many that enemy is the smoker. Given the over the top reaction some have that's the only conclusion I can reach. The level of animosity smokers face is far to disproportional to the "crime" they perpetrate. Banning smoking in open air environments is the the perfect example of that.

breathing in BO wont kill me.

oh yeah?tell me this, what about the fax and copier you use everyday? how about teh microwave? or the coffee you drink? How about the sunshine you bask in? did you ever think about the radiation your exposed to on a single pane flight? How about the perfume you wear that many people are allergic to? There is more than ample proof, from a scientist standpoint, that second hand smoke does jack shit to you.It can be measured, the toxins in it are all regulated in the workplace by OSHA, PEL limits set for each one, because they are EVERYWHERE, they are regulated.But from smokes, they just scream and cry that its all bad its all gonna kill you, fuck you smokers!Guess what? in air monitoring research people who work in places who have to deal with second hand smoke get far far far less than a worker in a factory is allowed by law, to be exposed to.Some deadly poisons, ion below threash hold levels are in fucking fruit you eat, blood thinners contain allowed amounts of fucking rat poison.If second hand smoke scares you so much, you should never venture outside your home or eat anything ever again, and turn off the computer, the tv, and the microwave. Get that wrist watch off, it emits radiation. People get scared, because they are sheep, someone says something it must be true!bah bullshit I call.With 2 minutes of research, I pulled shit to support everything I stated, but I got money says most people will never read it, never take a few minutes to educate themselves, its boring and long, boo fucking hoo.from: American Liberty some facts regarding secondhand smoke and ads like the one I encountered, which many anti-smoking groups are using in attempting to sway public opinion.At the bottom of the page, the ad said secondhand smoke contains hydrogen cyanide, arsenic, and formaldehyde. Boy that sounds scary! At least to those with no knowledge of chemistry and biological processes. But as I pointed out in my book MAKERS AND TAKERS, hydrogen cyanide is present in lima beans, cherries, plums, apricots, peaches, pears and peas. Even cabbage, broccoli and cauliflower contain cyanide compounds.Arsenic is found in many fruits, vegetables, cereals, meats and dairy products. Seafood can contain even more. Shrimp, oyster, mussels, prawns and other marine foods have been found to contain up to 174 ppm of arsenic—far more than the doses anyone will ever get from secondhand smoke. Yet the smoking ban activists chant unrelentingly, “there is no safe level of secondhand smoke”, “any dose is dangerous.” How can any dose of chemicals be dangerous in secondhand smoke when our bodies take in much larger amounts of these same chemicals from other sources? Furthermore, arsenic—despite its scary reputation—has been found to be essential to human life. At least ten other elements that are essential to human life are carcinogens at high doses—including and iron and even oxygen. Do the smoking ban activist know what they are talking about when they claim any dose of a carcinogen is dangerous, that there is no safe level for the chemicals in secondhand smoke?Arsenic is naturally occurring in air, soil and water. The largest concentrations are found in soil, on which cattle graze on on which we grow fruits and vegetables.The threshold OSHA has set for airborne arsenic is 10ug for an 8-hour work shift. This is the PEL (permissible exposure limit), below which the chemical is considered safe. And OSHA is being very conservative. According to the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, no symptoms are evident below “about 100 ug.” The World Health Organization estimates that pack-a-day smokers of American cigarettes inhale 2.6 ug arsenic per 8-hour work shift. The National Research Council says nonsmokers inhale 0.1 to 1% of what smokers inhale. Now, if a bartender has 25 seats in his bar and 10 are occupied by smokers, each smoking two cigarettes per hour, 160 cigarettes would be smoked per 8 hour shift. L. Stewart, author of Epidemiology 101, or How to Read and Understand a Study, shows that even if the 160 cigarettes could somehow all be smoked in a 40-inch cube without ventilation, the airborne arsenic inhaled in that cube would be only 0.064 ug—which is far, far, far below the OSHA standard. If instead of being confined to a 40-inch cube, the smoke was dispersed throughout a room large enough to hold 25 people, the concentration would be far, far, far less. He then notes:“the same kinds of calculations can be made for every "poison" and "toxin" in all the ads. Which is why OSHA has stated that it's well-nigh impossible to find any actual workplace where its PELs for secondhand smoke or any constituent thereof would be met, let alone exceeded.“The point we're trying to make is that while Arsenic!! is a 'poison' and even a 'carcinogen' it's neither at these doses. And further, people's normal exposure from other sources is greater by great amounts.” Finally, there is formaldehyde, the last of the chemicals ClearWay Minnesota is trying to scare people with in its ad. Formaldehyde sounds scary. But how can it be dangerous in any amount in secondhand smoke (“no safe level”) when we are exposed to small amounts from auto exhaust and other sources of combustion as well as from sunlight and oxygen acting on methane and other naturally occurring hydrocarbons in the atmosphere? Furthermore, our own bodies produce formaldehyde through internal biological processes having nothing to do with industry, pollution or tobacco. How can a chemical be dangerous in any amount in secondhand smoke when the same chemical is produced by our own bodies?or how about this one, one of my facorites, from : Hit and Run there is no blanket statement that any amount of tobacco smoke is inevitably harmful. In any case, as Mark Wernimont notes at Clearing the Air, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration does set acceptable levels for the chemicals in tobacco smoke. Wernimont cites several studies of real-world concentrations in environments where smoking is permitted, including one by the American Cancer Society, that found levels well below the OSHA limits. As I noted in my book For Your Own Good: The Anti-Smoking Crusade and the Tyranny of Public Health, two studies using personal air monitors conducted in the 1990s found that nonsmokers with the heaviest exposure to secondhand smoke were absorbing between 0.8 and 1.5 milligrams of "tar" a day. By comparison, a single regular Marlboro has an official (machine-measured) tar yield of 12 milligrams. Now keep in mind, I do not expect most people to comprehend the numbers, but I do. I am certified in confined space entry, and because of a background in radioactive waste and toxic and hazardous waste disposal and clean up and storage, I know what they mean, I understand the terminology.Anyone that works in any industry should understand it too, or they should not be working there.shall we continue?Regarding the claim, by pharmaceutical nicotine funded interests , that OSHA doesn't have a permissible exposure limit for secondhand smoke components, the OSHA table is linked below for your research:http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9992In the OSHA table you'll find a safe permissible exposure limit for thousands of individual components, pick the individual component you want to measure in secondhand smoke, and there is an OSHA safe limit for it. OSHA permissible exposure limits are the safe level of exposure for an 8 hour day / 40 hour per week time period.Some OSHA permissible exposure limit (PEL) examples of components in secondhand smoke:Nicotine safe level of exposure (PEL) is 0.5 mg per cubic meterarsenic safe level of exposure (PEL) is 0.3 mg per cu. meterbenzene safe level of exposure (PEL) is 10 parts per million (ppm)formaldehyde safe level of exposure (PEL) is 0.75 ppmacetone safe level of exposure (PEL) is 2400 mg per cu. meteretc. etc.The method above is how OSHA regulates employee exposure to welding smoke as well, there is no OSHA permissible limit for "welding smoke", secondhand smoke, wood smoke, or any other composite pollutant of two or more chemicals. OSHA is much more scientific and precise than that......each chemical component of an indoor air pollution source must be measured independently to determine if a health hazard exists.Arbitrarily declaring that secondhand smoke is a health hazard without conducting any air quality testing is simply a matter of opinion with no basis in science or fact. If we start passing laws based on flawed data we get flawed laws, laws which when finally scrutinized under the microscope of science cannot and will not hold up to a challenge.I culled that beauty from a Minnesota site

Sing it brother! Testify!Just to be upfront. I smoke sometimes, generally New Years, 4th of July and the two weekends I'm at the lake with my wife's family.

I have said this before but I will say it again...

I have no issues with people who smoke and I certainly don't hold the fact they smoke against them. I also don't think less of a person because they chose to smoke. My only issue is their choice affecting my choice NOT to smoke. In a public area smokers should not have the right to force their choice to smoke on people who are nonsmokers. Though some people go a bit over board about second hand smoke, the fact remains that second hand smoke can cause harm.

Case in point, a know a lady who ended up getting lung cancer. She never smoke a day in her life but she was a waitress most of her life inhaling second hand smoke from the patrons she was serving.

I just feel if you choose to smoke that's more the fine by me, but in public settings you should not have the right to force your choice on me.

I don't smoke regularly, but I like to smoke occasionally especially if I'm at some party drinking and stuff.

I have no problem with banning smoking indoors or at a seated place like an outdoor cafe/restaurant. But when someone starts "choking" and or waving their hands beccuse of a whiff of smoke as they are passing by.. well.. They're just a bunch of pussies and can go to hell. If they can't handle the smoke, then they are genetically weak.

I have no problem with people smoking outside in public. I mean they gotta smoke somewhere. I just find it extremely rude when people smoke right in your face. Like yesterday I went to the city and when my friends went into Mickey D's I was waiting outside with another friend and this lady came out to smoke RIGHT IN FRONT of us. I was hacking like crazy and she just stood there. When I finally got from behind her my throat stayed red and swollen for about 2 hours. Had to drink something cold to help make it go down.

I just hate how painful the coughs are just from accidentally inhaling it.

Was she next to or around the ash tray or just standing at the door? I'm not trying to be curt but why didn't you just step inside? Isn't it kind of a matter of compromise? The law has already sent this lady outside is it reasonable, at that point, to ask her to go find the one spot in a crowded area that no one is standing in.