You go girl!!!!!!!Stick it to the racial descriminating man!!!!!
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Regardless of what you say do the dew, I think you're racist. Why should I be offended if say my sister, who is white like me, dated a black man? I should be offended because of his color (like you said), then why not be offended because he's not German, or Irish, or even Scotish and I am? Why, because there is no point. Who cares if someone chooses to date a person of a diffrent color, we're all human beings. The only diffrence between us is the pigment of our skin, and there is nothing we can do to change that. You shouldn't define people by their color, because what it boils down to is we are all part of the same race: THE HUMAN RACE!!
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In reply to: Like my sister said, it's hard to find a good black man, or any man for that matter i found my good black man.. Im white and im dating a black man.. and i love it.. white guys just arent as.. caring? I hope this doesnt sound racist.. but alot of the black guys i know refuse to date black girls... i dont know why.. but maybe thats it?
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America's superpowership is slowly declining. Crime rates are much higher than any other generation, suicide and murder rates are on the rise. We are only continuing to be so powerful because we are so rich, which is left over from the days before the 1960's. That's when the first school shootings started happening, when abortions became the 'norm.'
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I already directed you [Here][1]. Actually read it this time and you won't say that again.
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Grow up. It's like I said before, acknowledging race no more makes me racist than does acknowledging pianos make me a pianist. You sound very much like the people you are against, though unfortunately for you I am not one of them. I do not descriminate, I use common sense. And on just what grounds do you justify "sticking it to me?"
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Funny, I don't see why you would say that. Seriously, give me reasons why any of the things I've said are unreasonable.
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You have the right to your opinion.
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No, you should be offended that he does not have enough respect for your people to leave them be, and that she (hypothetically)does not either.
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No, we're part of the human species. There are different breeds of dogs, and any veterinarian will tell you that they are not equal. Some are smarter, some are stronger. Mixing them will add the good qualities together, but compromise the qualities already there. The new dog is neither [insert breed] nor [insert breed] like its parents, it is a mix breed -- surpassing neither of its parents in any respect. It may be stronger than one parent and smarter than another, but better than neither. Why do you think purbreeds are more expensive? They are all dogs, doesn't that make them equal? My question is: why should it? We are the first country to think so, and there are no signs that it makes things any better.
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It shouldn't sound racist at all, and my belief is that we should stop having to worry about offending people. If it sounds racist, who cares? People who make a big deal out of such an innocent statement aren't worth trying to impress. In the 60's that wouldn't have been considered racist at all. Do you(speaking to everyone here) really think we have come all that far since then?
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In reply to: Do you(speaking to everyone here) really think we have come all that far since then? We have come VERY far.. are you kidding?! This world.. (especially teenagers) are so disrespectful to their fellow man (or woman) .. it makes me SICK.. but it will never happen when everybody is concidered equal
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all races of people are the same. It is the upbringing. Some people are just nicer than others, regardless of race.Just felt the need to say that.
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I hope this doesnt sound racist.. but alot of the black guys i know refuse to date black girls... i dont know why.. but maybe thats it?
Maybe what is it? You can have all those blacks guys who dont date black girls. We don't want people who dont want us...
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i will...so why are you complaining?
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Do The Dew, I understand what you are saying. Whether I agree or disagree is neither here nor there BUT, I just wished to inform you that I do get it. I am very proud that I am white. I understand that does not make me racist. But some would think it does. I've heard all my life from teachers about gay pride, black pride, latino pride, etc. etc. But when a kid would say, "what about white pride?" There was a complete silence in the room. Like being proud that you're white was an evil thing or that having pride automatically meant you thought your race was superior or you were a part of the KKK. But we need to realize that just as black people are proud of who they are and their heritage and their accomplishments, I too am proud of my heritage. I'm Irish and Scotish. Not from Ireland but a lot of my ancestry can be traced back to Scotland and Ireland and there was even some German on my dad's side. However, if I were to date a black man, it doesn't mean I'm not proud to white. There are just qualities I find attractive in this particular person regardless of his color. I don't think you're racist. But I think everyone here could really stand to take just a few steps back and look...I mean REALLY look at what we've all been saying. ALL of us sound racist and biased at some point in time. Not just here but in our everyday lives. Whether it's racism against another race or racism against your own race. We're all guilty. When was the last time someone has said the word 'nigger' (a word I'm not fond of) or cracker, or honkey, spic, sand nigger? Even the word nigga. It also is considered a racial slur. This isn't a debate about who's right and who's wrong because we are ALL wrong. We have all been guilty of racism at some point whether we knew it or didn't know it. We have come along way since 1960's but think of how much further we could have gotten as people if instead of trying to point out all the wrong doing's of others we looked at ourselves first and all the things we've done wrong. One can never truly right all the wrongs of this world until they've made right all the wrongs in their own life. No one has the right to point fingers. Not even me. So with that, I will step down off my soap box.
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In reply to:i will...so why are you complaining? Ah...I was waiting for the "I'm white and all the black guys I know don't date black girls, so I have an inflated sense of self" comment.
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In reply to: Actually, that article made no mention of non-white societies that had originated in and of themselves Scroll down, All the way tho the bottom of the page. You'll see other great civilizations that weren't white. For example, Egyptian, Persian, and the Japanese civilizations were non white, and were prosperous. And as I said before, PROVEN WRONG! In reply to: America’s superpowership is slowly declining. Crime rates are much higher than any other generation, suicide and murder rates are on the rise. We are only continuing to be so powerful because we are so rich, which is left over from the days before the 1960’s. That’s when the first school shootings started happening, when abortions became the ‘norm.’ Absolutely irrevelent! School shootings, abortion, and america becoming less of a superpower? In no way connected! I do agree that America will one day fall, as all superpowers do, but it has nothing to do with the reasons you stated.As I said earlier, do some research, and you'll stop repeating that nonsense. There are no genetic markers that define race. Internally, and I hate to tell you this, but you and I are one in the same! With our DNA side by side there is no doctor/geneticist/whathaveyou that will be able to differentiate between the white person and the black one. I mean come on, if we share 99% of our DNA with chimpanzees, that doesn't leave much room for variation between the races of the HUMAN race. No matter what you say, no matter how many websites you direct me to, we will never agree (thats because I'm right and you're wrong) , but anyhoo..... In reply to:There are different breeds of dogs, and any veterinarian will tell you that they are not equal. Some are smarter, some are stronger. Mixing them will add the good qualities together, but compromise the qualities already there And any dummy can tell you that pure breeds often have problems due to the similarities in the gene pool. Certain breeds are ofter prone to certain ailments, ie golden retrievers have bad bone structure, dalmations have deterioriating eyesight that often ends in blindness. So you have disproven your own theory on the basis that your hypothesis is contradictory. In reply to: In the 60’s that wouldn’t have been considered racist at all. Do you(speaking to everyone here) really think we have come all that far since then? Hmmm, let me think...YES. Is America rid of racism? No, and you are proof of that. Have we come far since then? Yes. Pseudo racial harmony is better that blatant racism anyday. If the white man who owns the restaurant doesn't like me, then thats ok, he still has to serve me. If the white bus driver doesn't like me, thats ok,he still has to pick me up. Get where I'm going? Back then not only was racism ok, it was the social norm. Discrimination was evident in every aspect of everyday life.
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some people have a certain sort of type.. i know people who wont date outside their race.. alot of people do though... theres nothing wrong with that.. i love being with my boyfriend and my boyfriend told me hes dated black girls but he doesnt like them as much as white girls..i know here .. (i live in a small town but when i go out with my big city friends from like.. Toronto..) black girls have a certain image.. that theyre supposed to be "tough" and act like "bitches".. thats what i hear.. (not saying i agree with it .. i think everything should be equal.. kristal knows we talk about this alot) so maybe just guys in general dont like that attitude
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I am very proud that I am white. I understand that does not make me racist. But some would think it does. I've heard all my life from teachers about gay pride, black pride, latino pride, etc. etc. But when a kid would say, "what about white pride?" There was a complete silence in the room. Like being proud that you're white was an evil thing or that having pride automatically meant you thought your race was superior or you were a part of the KKK.
Exactly. Our pride is just as valid as anyone else's. It's reverse discrimination(for lack of a better term).
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Scroll down, All the way tho the bottom of the page. You'll see other great civilizations that weren't white. For example, Egyptian, Persian, and the Japanese civilizations were non white, and were prosperous. And as I said before, PROVEN WRONG!
You keep telling me to do research, but you are the one who needs to review a little world history. The first king of Egypt was a blond-haired blue-eyed WHITE MAN. Persia I don't know much about, and of course Japan was prosperous in its own way -- all those in the Orient were orientals, having never seen a white before. Who's to say that if whites were there we wouldn't have been successful?
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America's superpowership is slowly declining. Crime rates are much higher than any other generation, suicide and murder rates are on the rise. We are only continuing to be so powerful because we are so rich, which is left over from the days before the 1960's. That's when the first school shootings started happening, when abortions became the 'norm.'
Absolutely irrevelent! School shootings, abortion, and america becoming less of a superpower? In no way connected! I do agree that America will one day fall, as all superpowers do, but it has nothing to do with the reasons you stated.
You have misunderstood the point I was trying to make. These things started happening in the sixties, when segregation ended. This is not to say that blacks were the cause of it, but that forced multiracialism was thus proven to cause racial tension. The majority of hate crimes are committed against whites. America's "melting pot" was a social experiment which is proven not to work.
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With our DNA side by side there is no doctor/geneticist/whathaveyou that will be able to differentiate between the white person and the black one. I mean come on, if we share 99% of our DNA with chimpanzees, that doesn't leave much room for variation between the races of the HUMAN race.
Exactly, there is only one percent difference between humans and chimps, and look how different the two species are! Do you think it would take a noticeable difference in genetics to make us different? I never said we were a different species, I'm just saying that we're farther apart than we are given credit for. Just that fraction of a percent allowed my ancestors(again I am not being contemptuous, this is history) to capture yours and enslave them, not liberating them at all until we had internal conflics as to whether or not it was right. No one can honestly say that black liberation would have ever happened if not for the north winning the civil war(though that wasn't the only cause). I am not saying that you couldn't given the chance. I am just pointing out that while we had a new, culturally outstanding country established, with a constitution, set of laws and strong military force, you had not the means to defend yourselves when we brought you from across the ocean. This does not mean either of us is superior to the other, but that we had progressed faster. This all layed the groundwork for a racially unstable america. Because of all this, the races will never as a whole get along in america, at least not for a long time. I think it would be great for us to live in peace with each other, I just do not see any reason why we should. Your people survived the harsh conditions of africa without us, and we sailed the ocean without you. To each his own, but there seem to me to be more reasons not to intermingle than to do so.
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No matter what you say, no matter how many websites you direct me to, we will never agree (thats because I'm right and you're wrong), but anyhoo.....
That is VERY closed minded, if you can't look at it from my viewpoint then why should I look at it from yours? I have provided explanations for all my statements, and you just go and deem everything I say "wrong," and you expect me to listen to you? Just so you know, I read all you said, and I understand the thought behind it: that it is better to live in relative peace with people other than your own, at the expense of your cultural heritage. That's what I got out of it. If I was wrong, then maybe you'll be able to stop labeling me a bigot for a minute and explain your philosophy. I've explained mine.
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If the white man who owns the restaurant doesn't like me, then thats ok, he still has to serve me. If the white bus driver doesn't like me, thats ok,he still has to pick me up. Get where I'm going?
Never has, in any country, culture or civilisation, that ever been true. Except America. Who is to say this is right? If I owned a store and didn't like a customer, why should it be my duty to serve him?
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Pseudo racial harmony is better that blatant racism anyday.
Why? Because it supposedly causes violence and hatred? There have only been 11 reported cases of skinheads killing members of other races in the last year, making these alleged "racists" less dangerous than honey bees.
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Wow, everyone takes this race thing so seriously. How about this... you should all shut up.
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I'll date any girl of any race. Their all the same to me.
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I am proud to be me (and it's not because I'm white), I am proud of who I am, how I was raised, but I'm not proud of my ancestors and what they did to all these other people. I should be proud to be white... but why exactly am I proud to be white? Am I proud that my fellow white men took the land I'm standing on today away from the Native Americans? This land was theirs, and the white men came over here and killed these people and destroyed their way of life. Took their land from them, tried to force them to be slaves for the whites, and they'd rather kill themselves than be opressed. I would have to because I'd be damned if someone came to my land and stole it, then tried to force slavery on me. Then, the white people desided that black people made the perfect slaves, what bullshit. They inslaved their fellow man and treated them like cattle. We proud white people made it impssible for the thier "slaves" to be able to read, or write... we basically tried to dumb down these people just so we could control them. Oh yeah, I should really be proud of that.What about when the great white people rounded up all the Japanese people and put them in camps? "Oh they could be spies for the Japanese govrenment" when most of the people they put in those damn camps never saw Japan.So I should be proud to be white because we have the knack of opressing people, and destroying their lives. So you tell me do the dew, what exactly am I supposed to be proud of? Give me a good reason, and then maybe I will....
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I'm white and I don't really care about the history of my race. I don't care how my ancestors lived or how they acted, not in a bad way, just that their actions, whether right or wrong, created us and the world around us. Now it is up to us to make it better for the generations to come.
That sounds so sappy, but it is what I believe.
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Exactly, it's up to us to change the things that happened. I don't agree with what my ancestors did. In my eyes, we're all equal, black, white, asian, whatever color you are, we're all equal. I just wish people would be able to see that. I don't understand why they can't...
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Ok, I take back what I said...This whole post was made out of lonliness and envy. The is no point in getting all upset over interracial relationships becuase it doesn't matter how much a person detests them...they are gonna happen anyway. So, I figure I have better things to do than to worry about some random black dating outside his race. And besides, I've got something in the works with a new guy I met, so everything is cool!!!