Going crazy...hopefully not

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Everyone wants certainty, even about things that have no certainty. It causes more stress not to know what will happen, than to know the worst. So like a drowning man clutching at straws, people often clutch at the flimsiest of stories that appear to offer answers.However, the stories usually are fiction.It is quite easy to search the Bible online, for example through biblegateway.com. There is no mention of Baal in the apocalyptic books. There is no mention of the term "resurrected Baal", nor "creation and intention" in the Bible anywhere. The "quotes" are hoaxes, not in the Bible anywhere.I can't of course disprove the bit about Palestinian groups raising funds to "take back" the site of the "temple of Baal", but it has the smell of fiction, probably malicious by someone trying to discredit Palestinians. It makes no sense, especially as no-one knows where it might have been (somewhere in Samaria).The Mayan "clock" is a calendar, so it can't be checked against an atomic clock or any other. Indeed, we're not quite sure of the exact starting day: most scholars use August 11 3114 BC (Gregorian), but some think it was two days later. The calendar does not end in December 20 2012, as is often said. That date corresponds to the end of the 12th b'ak'tun after August 11 3114 BC. The previous (third) creation in Mayan mythology was supposed to have ended at the end of the 12th b'ak'tun in its life; but that was considered a failed creation, and the present (fourth) creation a successful one.The calendar itself copes with 19 b'ak'tuns when written in the most common, five-digit, form, but there are names for a further four vigesimal digits, suggesting it can in fact cope with at least 3,199,999 b'ak'tuns, taking us over a million millennia into the future. Mayan inscriptions sometimes include predictions of great anniversaries in the future, and some of these dates are well past 2012. King Pacal of Palenque predicted that the eightieth Calendar Round anniversary of his accession will be celebrated on October 21 4722.Nostradamus never predicted the world would end or dramatically change in 2012. His quatrains are notoriously obscure, but he appears to have predicted this for 1999, and it didn't happen. In fact, Nostradamus only quotes four dates in all of his quatrains, and they are all wrong.

Once again, Pete knows all.Oh, and this:> Everyone wants certainty, even about things that have no certainty. It causes more stress not to know what will happen, than to know the worst. So like a drowning man clutching at straws, people often clutch at the flimsiest of stories that appear to offer answers.Is how I think of religion. Well put, Pete.

But, the antichrist is supposed to bring the world together in peace, correct? From what I am thinking right now, isnt there still a war going on?

And you mean like, Baal, the lord of destruction? o,O

The Mayan calendar is far more precise than the Gregorian calendar, and all sign are pointing too one thing: we are approaching the end. December 21, 2012.There's no need to stress about this, nevertheless. I mean, you could get hit by a Mac Truck tomorrow, or later on today, and you won't be around to witness doomsday. If you do live til that date, you might be one of the survivors, like Will Smith in "I Am Legend."NOT~!

They knew THEY wouldn't be around this long, so they left us a blueprint.Smarter than us were these "primitive" people.

Alright so if you want to read about some apocolypse crap, without taking advice from people(mayans) who did not know how to operate cars.Revelations in the bible. Chapter 13. I think everyone should read it even if they aren't christians, it's kind of interesting. Not that I believe it.Also, If your going to tell me that a guy made 1000's of predictions and has only been wrong once, it means he has probably made really general statements, much like nostradumbass, and he probably made predictions which don't have a set time period to them, therefore never really making him wrong.I 100% agree with helmnsmen, I think either the sun will go supernova, or the moon will get out of gravitational pull. But we won't be around to see the day. Unless of course we clean up what we are doing to the environment, and we become extremely advanced in space exploration.- Hope we meet aliens.

If your christian your supposed to believe in the second coming of jesus, so if the date is December 21, 2012. That's fucking COOL.

Originally Posted By: HelmsmaN  Quote: - Hope we meet aliens.You may already have. If people are going to believe in way out shit like that in the bible, nostradamus and all the other stuff, might as well factor in the extreme possibility that either we are the aliens (experimantal race inserted to this planet) or they they are here amongst us. To think otherwise would be silly, arrogant human thinking. Great point. Who is to say that we are not just some science project for some other sentient beings? That could be our "God". :]

We're an alien ant farm.

hahahahahahaha.Nostradomaus predicted several end of the world dates, and they all were wrong.The bible says jesus will be with us until the end of the "world" (Which was actually a mis-translated line from the old testament, it actually meant jesus will be with us until the end of the "age", which is 2150. The end of the age in 2150 is the end of Jesus' age, which is the age of Pisces, the fish symbol. You may be familiar with the pisces sign affiliated with christianity, such as the "Jesus Live" avatar. 2150 doesn't signify Jesus' second coming, but the new age of Aquarius. It's in the bible "ye will find the man holding a barrel of water." this is Aquarius, the symbol of the water bearer. The age of Aquarius starts after the age of Pisces, the age of Jesus. We're not dying people.)After researching the Mayans, i'm pretty sure they meant "The world will change forever, including peoples attitudes". Yes it is true, our solar system hits the galactic center in 2012, but it doesnt mean shit in terms of our world ending. I think peoples attitudes will change, whether it means a new government, or people actually doing something about global warming.There will always be a book, or a religion, or a person who doesnt exist anymore who says the end of the world is approaching us, usually in our lifetime. This was done for a simple reason guys, to keep us in check. So we be good people, and repent for our sins, and try to die as holy as we can, so that we go to heaven if this really does happen.However, once you realize that religion was made for the purpose of controlling the masses of people, regardless of age,sex,ethnicity, or location, we can finally see that religion is nothing more then a scapegoat. Bush said god told him to invade Afghanistan.If i told you the world is ending in a week, would you believe me? No. Then why do you believe some mayans who lived centuries ago?and the bible doesn't say the world is ending in 2150 contrary to popular belief.I think a lot of you here need a wake up call, so i'm going to give it to you. I think you'll like this StillSearching.http://www.zeitgeistmovie.comNot the best form of what i'm talking about, but it gets it accross with visuals."The Power of Nightmares" is a good watch too, 3 hours long.Educate yourselves people.

Originally Posted By: AfterhoursThen why do you believe some mayans who lived centuries ago? I think the Mayans had a few greater accomplishments than you have, no offence. More than any person living in the modern world, actually, so don't feel bad. It's easy to discredit them as primitive people, and say things like "Well, they couldn't operate a car." Who the fuck cares, cars just polute the earth anyway.

I think you'll like this StillSearching.Why would I like that? I watched like 4 minutes of it and had no idea what the hell that was supposed to be.> we can finally see that religion is nothing more then a scapegoatThat's what I've been saying for a while now.

Originally Posted By: AfterhoursThere will always be a book, or a religion, or a person who doesnt exist anymore who says the end of the world is approaching us, usually in our lifetime. This was done for a simple reason guys, to keep us in check. So we be good people, and repent for our sins, and try to die as holy as we can, so that we go to heaven if this really does happen.However, once you realize that religion was made for the purpose of controlling the masses of people, regardless of age,sex,ethnicity, or location, we can finally see that religion is nothing more then a scapegoat. Bush said god told him to invade Afghanistan.If you look at the very essence of what religion is, what it is based upon. You should realize that it is actually not such a bad thing. Religion IS a way of controlling people, however the belief's behind religion is a way of GUIDING masses of people. If you are going to take quotes from a village idiot, then that is very unfair to base an entire religion or being upon. I do not believe in any of the current and preivous religions god(s) However, I do think there is a high chance of there being a higher spiritual being . To deny that there may be a possiblity of one, would be insanely ignorant. I hear stories of how people have had 'out of body' experiences, I know a ex-priest who told a story of one, where the person was able to name every single person in the room next to them. I sure hope there is something else after life as we know it.

I hear stories of how people have had 'out of body' experiences, I know a ex-priest who told a story of one, where the person was able to name every single person in the room next to them.You may want to read this article before you claim an OOB experience involves some spiritual higher being. Unless you call your own brain a spiritual higher being.

Wow still searching, your article disproved nothing. This had to do with out of body experiences in the same room. This person actually went to another room that they had not visited once before, and listed the people who were in it. Try that on for size.

I've seen zetigeist, and I think that it makes alot of sense in many ways. However I do not think it disproves the idea of a god. How is it that all of our constellation system align to tell such stories? I think that maybe a presence of a higher being could only create the constellation in such a way that could be manifested in the zodiac. If you call it coincidence then it is like me calling the Jesus story aligning with the zodiac a coincidence.

And I suppose you think lucid cdreaming is a higher spiritual being as well? *rolleyes*

I think the Mayans had a few greater accomplishments than you have, no offence. More than any person living in the modern world, actually, so don't feel bad. Ahh... Sexpert... you're a fine example of the ignorant people who pollute the earth to this very day.You just described a vast majority of people, the "Mayans" to have more accomplishments then "me" or most of us.So... you just basically said a few thousand Mayans have accomplished more.. then me and a few other people? Ok... you're smart, clearly.Next time you try to say i'm wrong, use wholesome facts instead of just generalizations.Btw, none of them were smarter then Einstein, a modern-world inhabitant who didnt claim to be a prohpet just because he saw an image of god in his tea.Nice try though. Next...StillSearching..Ill agree the intro to the movie is hella long, 10-15 mins i think. Just skip the intro and get into the religion/astrological part, it's the first chapter of the video, right after the intro.

nothing can disprove the theory that god exists. thats why religion is still in extistence you can only disprove gods intentions why god could existthat is why there is so many religions that fight with one anotherwhich is the perfect oppurtunity for a being of pure evil and deeption to striketo pretend to mend all religions together would bring hope and trust to anyone who can do it as soon as there eating out of the palm of your hands down comes the hammerthe four horse of the apocalypse are let loose and the war of black and white goes up in flames

why the fuck the 21st? 4 days before christmas we'd die fuck it

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Originally Posted By: HelmsmaN

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• Hope we meet aliens.

You may already have. If people are going to believe in way out shit like that in the bible, nostradamus and all the other stuff, might as well factor in the extreme possibility that either *we are* the aliens (experimantal race inserted to this planet) or they they are here amongst us. To think otherwise would be silly, arrogant human thinking.

Great point. Who is to say that we are not just some science project for some other sentient beings? That could be our "God". :]

If you like reading, look for a book called "Chariots of the gods". It's based along those lines, and very thought provoking.

I LOVE reading, and Im about to start working at Barnes and Noble, so I could find that book easily! Nifty, I will check it out.