read my above post, its not a constant pain, and i dont claim to know it, thats just what the girls who i've asked them about it tell me,its an on and off painful feeling, only when i go to deep, im assuming cause im hitting there cervix/opening it... she isnt avoiding it completely, but she has been neglecting it...if you stuck ur hand in a cookie jar 10 times and 1 time it got snapped by a gentle mouse trap, i bet you too would think twice before sticking ur hand in there again... or at least try to figure out why it did that...i dont use profeshional lubrication, although i believe i should start if im going to keep using condoms everytime , and i do go slow, what i normally do is just let her take me in as fast as she wants, she grab onto my shaft and guide me in...its when i start thrust that starts hurting (not the hurt from stretching, the hurt from penetration)